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22—31 July

From: Bill Haldane
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: A few more Photos
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 18:05


Photos 1 and 2 are Neofinettia falcata, which grows in the roof of my
cool area.
3 is Stanhopea tigrina − a second twin bud was broken off last week when
something came through an open roof vent.
4 is Chelonstele maximi regina, obtained from Malcolm Perry a couple of
years ago
5 and 6 are Stanhopea wardii v. aurea
Regards,
Bill

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From: Mark Griffiths
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Pleione culture
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:15


hi all, long time no post.
From memory P.forrestii and P.humilis are a bit different. I think alot of people grow both in pure moss.
You might try contacting Paul Cumbleton, he has a huge site and knowledge.

Cultivation of Pleione page 3

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there is also some info here
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Another source of help is somewhere like the Scottish Rock Garden Club − they have a sub forum for Pleiones & Hardy Orchids. Or you might find the answer simply doing a search there. If you want me to ask a question and you don't want to sign up I can ask the question for you

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hope this helps.

regards, Mark

Tina Stagg wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Pleione culture

Geoff − do you have the definitive book? It does have a lot of detail about
cultivation of different species. I am not going to quote as I would
probably cherry pick the wrong bits!

The Genus Pleione, Phillip Cribb# and Ian Butterfield.

Tina

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From: Tina Stagg
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] A few more Photos
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 16:15

What a lovely plant − the bowl and curtains are nice, too! I have never
tried neofinettia but now I have a small cool section again I may give it a
go. How much shade should I give it?

Tina

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From: Richard Baxter
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Die Orchidee
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:30

Tony

I have got around to giving this a try, but the resulting English text does just not make much sense. I guess the wording, being orchid specific, is rather too technical for general translation software.
The OCR conversion seemed to work fine.

My search continues.
Richard

Tony Watkinson wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Die Orchidee

Hi Richard

You could try this on line OCR site.
http://www.free-ocr.com/

You upload a jpg and it will convert it into text. Google translate will then do the hard work for you.
https://translate.google.com/

Tony

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From: Bill Haldane
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] A few more Photos
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:35

Hi Tina,
My Neo seems to like about the same light as most cattleyas − some shade
in the summer but otherwise full light.
Hope that helps.
Best Regards,
Bill

On 24/07/2015 17:18, Tina Stagg wrote:
> What a lovely plant − the bowl and curtains are nice, too! I have
> never tried neofinettia but now I have a small cool section again I
> may give it a go. How much shade should I give it?
>
> Tina

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Neofinetias
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 19:25

Here are some more Neofinetias.

The pic titled Neofinetia Collection is the group from Peter Fowler, which
are recovering very well after having been nibbled by his cats.

The pic titled Neofinetias is those plus the rest of our collection on
their custom-made shelf in the new greenhouse.

Finally a closer pic of Peter's variegated Neofinetia in bud, which also
seems happy in its new home.

With thanks to Peter,

--

Tricia

I doubt, therefore I might be.

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] A few more Photos
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 21:05

Hi all.
I have only just been able to access your pics Bill, due to an accident in cyberspace.
Your Neo ' is a lovely pure white . I have several of this species , the largest − very many growths now in an 8 inch basket, has never Flowered well . For some years my conditions were aimed at pleasing vandals and cattleyas, and it was too warm. I tried a cool rest in a cold frame, but not cool enough , so I got some flowers, but not enough. Since turning the stat down, aiming to suit the Odonts, cymbidiums etc, conditions should be nearer right, but again only one spike this year. I realise − as I am currently going through all the small vandaceous stuff which form two lines hanging the length of my greenhouse, that it has not been repotted for far too long , so it is in fact the next plant to do. It will be quite a job, I think I shall cut the basket out, piece by piece with secateurs, since the roots come out and go back in again, all round. I shall maybe need my largest basket when I repot, and I will switch from 100% sphagnum moss to my new mix I am using for all vandaceous stuff , after trying it out since the Spring on two batches of plants , one from the French guy who sells under the name Vanda-diffusion on e-bay, and the other from Martin Motes when he came here for the EOC. this is Orchiata largest bark, similar sized pumice lumps, and sphagnum moss in equal parts.
But one other of my neofinetias is flowering for the first time, and this is one of the bean curd type with very short thick leaves. Not yet sure what the flowers will be like !

I liked your Stanhopea pics btw . The flowers actually look like orchid flowers − almost a first ! Could even persuade me to try some.

Geoff

Sent from my iPad

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Neofinetias
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 21:10

Quite a collection. I see that one is the striped leaves type. Are all the others the ordinary white flowered type ? Not that there is anything wrong with that, but I have tried to get some of the coloured ones. My best "pink" does have definite pink or maybe even violet Spurs, but still white flowers. I also have one which, with a touch of imagination is lime green, but it needs a little photoshop to be really believable.

Geoff

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From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Neofinetias
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 22:35

They are looking great thanks to you, especially the one in the tall pot, which was the first one I bought. They are better off in a greenhouse than in my kitchen.
Thanks
Peter

Sent from my iPad

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From:
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Die Orchidee
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 03:00

Hi Richard

I guess it is a work in progress

Tony

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From: Peter
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Die Orchidee
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 07:25

Dear Richard,
Yes 'Die Orchidee is very good, but to translate it into english is
rather difficult,because of the special terms
used in the english language.

I'm German and had die Orchidee for many years, but gave it up for its
technicalities which I found too much to handle.

Kind regards
Peter

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From: Horace Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: a few less often seen species....
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 09:45

First, Bifrenaria aureofulva . Some have this as two words, i.e. aureo fulva , but I think one is correct. Last flowered for me two years ago, then repotted − now flowering again when the pot is bulging out of shape with the bulbs. I think maybe all Bifrenarias need to be pot-bound to flower well. Six spikes this year − although #only# four yet out as seen here.But then I have to repot again#.

Caucaea nubigena. In the Oncidium group. Flowers about 2 cm high. Not quite as pretty as I had hoped from my memories of Caucaea obtained by looking at IOSPE, but could be a nice little thing perhaps, if I can get multiple growths and spikes.

This ( above) was bought under the name Oncidium cucullatum, but according to IOSPE is also a Caucaea − a bit more colourful as you can see, and exactly the same comments about size etc.

This is Coelogyne brachyptera ; probably a back bulb propagation from one of the late Colin Carter#s plants − he specialised in them. Flowers about 2 inch. Now needs repotting − the new lead and a possible second one are hard on the pot rim; not sure what to pot in ! Probably a bark mix, although in a different section of the genus I get good results only in hydroculture − see next and last pics.

Coelogyne mooreana #Westonbirt# or so it was said when I bought it from a certain nursery not a thousand miles away from Kingsteignton. I have always failed miserably with this kind of Coelogyne, growing in everything except hydroculture in which they flourish for me . So I put this into the system when I bought it, maybe a year or so ago. First flowering here. Nice, if not more than that, but the flowers no-where near as big as I expect. But then, this is the first year, first flowering, and the bulbs not very big − probably only just big enough to flower at all. I shall hope for better things next year. But white flowers, in perfection, not starting to spot or fade, are always rather special, I think.

Geoff

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Neofinetias
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 11:40

The striped one is rather special. The coloured varieties are lovely too
and I think one of the ones I bought some years ago is supposed to be
pink/lilac, but it is yet to flower so I can't be sure.

--

Tricia

I took a course in speed waiting. Now I can wait an hour in just ten minutes...

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From: Richard Baxter
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Die Orchidee
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 13:20

I am not giving up, Tony, so I'll let you know if I achieve anything near success.
I cannot believe that the problem cannot be solved in this technological age.
Richard

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From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Disa in flower.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:10

The hens teeth of Disas , a yellow form of D. Uniflora is in flower. It is only a small plant and when the other bud opens I will cut the spike off and feed it. It came from Dick Warren. If you order some ,order three seedlings hoping one will grow.
Peter Fowler.

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From: hilary hobbs
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] A couple of pics.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 14:30

Hello Geoff

David Hide from Fargro Horticultural distributors has recommended Deltamethrin for killing thrips. This insecticide is the main ingredient in Provado Fruit and Vegetable Killer, which is a new product. It also has the advantage of been relatively non toxic. He says that thrips are resistant to Bug Clear Ultra and Provado Ultimate Bug Killer..I had some live thrips on a Phragmipedium a few weeks ago and i sprayed with both the latter insecticides,but they did not kill them so I think David may be right. I am trying the Fruit and Vegetable Killer and will let you know how it goes.

Hilary

Geoff Hands wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] A couple of pics.

The drench, actually dunking in bucket of the stuff, has worked well. This was Bug Clear, Vine Weevil killer.
I don't think one treatment will ever wholly eliminate all, so I have continued treating. But some plants drenched three times over the last year, as well as being sprayed several times, have flowered with miniature flowers.... So I am only using horticultural soap at present, and only every 6-8 weeks.
So far, I gave only had a couple of new growths which had suspect marks, not sure if it was thrips punctures or not, and that is a couple out of several hundred plants, over the course of this year.

Geoff

Sent from my iPad

On 14 Jul 2015, at 20:03, hilary hobbs wrote:

Nice pics.
I would like to know how your Thrips elimination is going .I know that you tried an insecticide drench and wondered how successful this has been. I thought i was doing well as although I have seen signs of them on flowers i have not seen any live ones for about 3 months.. Sadly yesterday i found 3 live thrips on a Phragmipedium flower, so I am not winning! I have been spraying plants that are likely to be infected with synthetic insecticide but have not yet tried the drench.

Hilary

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Disa in flower.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:25

I had two, when he was selling them last year, neither survived.
Btw Dick Warren announced his retirement : don't know what happened to all his stock . maybe he has been running down for some years in preparation ?
I have recently been looking at my pics of Sid Cywes Disas which I have seen at his home in South Africa on a couple of visits. He was then planning to start a commercial business selling cut flowers, and had flower spikes 2 feet high with flowers larger than any I have ever seen, in quite a range of pastel colours from yellow through oranges and reds to pinks. But on my last visit, almost a year ago, I learnt that he had given up, and sold the lot to Duckworths.
I do not understand why Duckworths were not at the WOC , since apart from Disas, they are one of the largest orchid nurseries in South Africa, or so I have been told. I did go past their nursery on a west coast tour, but they would not let us in ( a car load of orchidists − the others including Mary Gerrity from San Francisco, who has just published a super book on orchid miniatures...) But that's by the way : they said they were too busy with the WOC to see us. maybe they actually trade under some other name, and were at WOC.
But whatever, looking at my flowers, whatever it says on the label, they are in a very narrow range of colours. I own to being discouraged in this department.
However I have a lot of seedlings, maybe I shall find what I hope for when some of them flower, if and when...

Geoff

Sent from my iPad

> On 27 Jul 2015, at 13:10, Peter Fowler wrote:
>
> The hens teeth of Disas , a yellow form of D. Uniflora is in flower. It is only a small plant and when the other bud opens I will cut the spike off and feed it. It came from Dick Warren. If you order some ,order three seedlings hoping one will grow.
> Peter Fowler.

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Disa in flower.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:30

Thanks for the pic, which I had not got around to commenting on before my finger caught the send button.
It is much paler than I expected. My understanding is that they are all yellow, of various shades, but have one or more layers of red cells above them. yellow comes from the mutation where the red layer does not develop. The yellow form is occasionally found in nature, but does not set seed naturally, because the pollinator is a butterfly which is colour blind, and only sees the red flowers. So different yellows are probably due to more or less layers of the yellow cells, and the oranges have a single layer of red cells, and so on.

Geoff

Sent from my iPad

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From: theta
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Laelia purpurata
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:55

Just a few photos of this first-time bloomer in my garden. One close-up
is in the shade and the other in full sun with glistening effects (what
a change with the lighting!). The final one shows the location, under
the speckled shade of a Meyer lemon tree in an herb garden with turmeric
growing in the foreground − Venice California.

-mark-

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