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November 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-30 December 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-31

1—7 May

From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Phally species and Peterborough
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 09:20

think that I remember seeing an overseas trader at Peterborough in a recent year, with a whole range of different Phal species. Does anyone recall who it was, I wonder ?

I like to do my research in advance, and order the things I want, rather than looking at the stand and buying on impulse..... not that I am always quite as organised ! and I have thought to have a go at Phal species – David is of course to blame – with the lovely things he shows us from time to time !.

Geoff

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Phally species and Peterborough
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 11:20

Hello Geoff,

Try Hilmar Bauch-Asendorfer orchideenzucht. They specialise in Phal species and they will be at Peterborough they tell me.

David

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From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Paph ID needed.
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 13:55

Hello all,

I bought this plant recently as Paph niveum. Now that it has flowered, I am pretty sure it isn't... Wrong flower shape, wrong colour... Wrong everything, I guess!

I think it might be a variant of conconlor. The flower is not fully open, but you can see what it looks like.

Anyone would like to throw an opinion on it's possible ID?

Francis

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From: rudolf günnel
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Paph ID needed.
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 20:20

Hello Francis,

you are right in both , it isn't Paph. niveum and yes your identification is
right − it is Paph. concolor.

I think it is a straight concolor no variety , but for more information have
a look at : http://www.slipperorchids.info/

Best regards from Germany, Rudolf

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Paph ID needed.
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 21:55

concolor . Of course there may be hybrids which look like it, but I can t think of one, off-hand.

Geoff

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From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Paph ID needed.
Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 08:55

Thanks to both Rudolf and Geoff for their answers. I will be changing the label shortly, as it seems to be the consensus that it is concolor.

On another forum to which I belong, the responses were a bit varied, with some people saying it could be a primary hybrid, as the petals did not have the usual roundness of concolor plants, but most of them thought it was a poorly shaped concolor. Someone suggested it was actually Paphiopedilum concolor var hennisoniana, but looking on the internet this seems to be an invalid name, and I could not find a proper description for this variety of Paph concolor... Could anyone give me some help on tracking the validity of this name?

Many thanks,

Francis

PS I have also asked the person who suggested that name, but I haven't had a reply yet.

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Paph ID needed.
Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 10:55

Phil Cribb notes that concolor is the most widespread of all the brachy’ paphs, and ( one might almost say, consequently) is the most variable ; the most distinctive feature however is the staminode which is rather narrower than one finds in any of its sister species , and that does not vary much in any of the versions ..
I also recall conversations with M.Lecoufle – the present man’s grandfather , who was a great paph enthusiast and extremely knowledgeable ; his mantra was 'look at the staminode” . He maintained that it was almost invariably the clue to getting the name right.
I have looked again at the staminode in your flower, and am more convinced that you have the species. As to 'variety” – that word is used rather loosely by us growers.Taxonomic botanists use it more rigorously , and as you say, V.hennisoniana does not seem to be recognised at all.

Geoff

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From: Richard Baxter
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: 20 May Chatsworth
Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 10:35

If anyone is in the Derbyshire area on Sunday 20 May, drop into the 40th Anniversary show of the Sheffield and District Orchid Society. To celebrate the anniversary we have planned another full show with 6 Societies and 5 Orchid trade.
In these days of declining society membership we are very proud to continue thriving, so do come and help us mark this milestone.
More details on www.sheffieldorchids.org
Look forward to seeing you there.
Richard

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Special (to me) Masdevallia
Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 18:00

Attached are photos of my first flowering of Masdevallia Alan F.
Garner since registering the name; the cross is M. ignea x Pichincha
'Ina'. Quite a large flower. I have shown two views to give an idea
of the shape.

--

Tricia

If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

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From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Special (to me) Masdevallia
Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 18:25

Lovely looking flower.
Gordon.

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From: tony garthwaite
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Special (to me) Masdevallia
Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 21:05

Now that is what you call "A Cracker!"

Tony G.

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From: John Dennis
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Special (to me) Masdevallia
Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 22:55

Very nice Tricia, quite similar to Masd. Lyne Timoney in its stripes and colour but the Masd. ignea cross makes a a slightly different shape. I bet you're proud of that one.
John

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From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Special (to me) Masdevallia
Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 23:15

Tricia......it is a beaut. Flower size would be interesting. It is special to all of us who knew Alan.

Peter Fowler

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Special (to me) Masdevallia
Date: Mon, 07 May 2012 08:40

This plant will always be special to you Tricia, and every time we even see the name we will be thinking of you.

As an orchid hybrid I can see he influence of ignea but with more subtle colouring than the fiery colour of that parent. I gather that it is much larger which makes it quite a desirable plant !. Congratulations !

geoff;

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