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22—31 December

From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Question.
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:20

If they (Apple) didn t charge twice the reasonable price(for their hardware) I might join you. But not much chance.

Geoff

Tricia Garner wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Question.

Congratulations! Wise choice. I will be happy to discuss/offer advice
off list, just ask. My son-in-law runs a one-mything elsean consultancy for
people new to Mac so he can probably fill in any gaps for me :-)

Tricia

The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up.

John Stanley wrote:
> Mmm, Having acquired a virus on the laptop I don't use for email
> (so don't panic) and having been unable to shift it even with a
> new installation of Windows, I intend throwing in the towel and
> throwing out the laptop to become a Mac user after Christmas.

> I can hardly ask in the forum (a tad off topic!) but if you have
> any advice you think a potential Apple Mac convert should know or
> might appreciate, and if you should become fed up with turkey,
> Christmas puddin' and TV, . . . you get my drift! I would
> appreciate any advice/experience/wisdom etc. etc. by direct email.
> (I'm serious in my wish but not serious in an expectations for a
> response over the festive frivolities) Thanks again for the
> explanation and info. To me, Pluto translates to PLUTO or PipeLine
> Under The Ocean from a few years back! John

> From ancient graffiti: "I used to be uncertain but now I'm not so
> sure"

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From: Richard Baxter
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Gordon
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:15

We have had 12c here in Newark-on-Trent so my Odontoglossum/Cymbidium greenhouse has been wide open to get some fresh air through. It is open again to-day. Such opportunities are too rare during the winter months.

Greetings to all...........and especially to Tricia for her amusing Christmas card much enjoyed.

Richard

John Stanley wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Gordon

Hi Peter and Gordon,
Those of us ancient enough to recall the Goon Show may remember that Eccles kept warm sunbathing in winter on Brighton Beach with the simple expedient of keeping his thermometer in a Thermos flask. A message there for those worrying about orchid house fuel bills eh?However, here in tropical Crewe we ve been sweltering in 10C all day
Season s Greetings
John

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From: Richard Baxter
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Question.
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:20

I agree, but cannot escape the fact that those who use MACs seem to swear by them. I guess Bill Gates was wise in the early days to get most of us locked into Windows. It just seems too much of a hassle to swap when the existing PC inevitably gives up. Even so, I am not looking forward to any change after Geoff's tale of woe a few weeks ago.

Richard

Geoff wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Question.

If they (Apple) didn t charge twice the reasonable price(for their hardware) I might join you. But not much chance.

Geoff

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: A merry and sparkling Christmas to you all...
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:00

The head of flowers on Bulbophyllum laxiflorum always reminds me of the sparklers my kids ( grand-children, great-grand....) use to have at their birthday parties. Maybe the dreaded Elves have stopped this ? ( Elf and S...) So I call my plant – as the varietal name – 'sparkler”

Hence have a very merry and sparkling Christmas – lots of sparkling stuff if you can’t afford the Moet , and who can afford to grow orchids and buy vintage Champers ?

Geoff

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From: jeff parkes
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Question.
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:45

Richard
Once you use a mac you will never go back to a PC
But I assume you all know that you can run both Windows and OSX on your Mac and switch seamlessly between the two.
I never go to the windows partition now.. but its useful for files that OSX doesnt open
and dont forget everything is immediately updatable on your iphone or ipad etc.
this is mainly to prove that I am still a lurker but always enjoy all your postings and pictures
Merry Xmas
Jeff

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Question.
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:10

It's true that the cheapest Mac is more expensive than the cheapest
alternative PC. However, last time I looked a Windows PC kitted out
to a similar specification as a Mac was pretty close in price, it's
just that Apple don't do cheap and cheerful. That said, I know many
more cheerful Mac users than Windows users...

Tricia

We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.

Geoff wrote:
> If they (Apple) didn't charge twice the reasonable price(for their
> hardware) I might join you. But not much chance.

> Geoff

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From: tony garthwaite
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Emailing: Greetings and Pics.
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:50

Dear All,
Christmas Greetings from Lincolnshire.
Here are a few photos of this Autumn's blooms.
The two Pleione are Confirmation and the Cat. is one I rescued from a
Garden Centre last year!

P1000413 Pl. Confirmation
P1000377 Pl. Confirmation
P1000407 Cat. ?

Today is so warm the heaters have not been operating in the greenhouse!
First time for a couple of weeks!

I leave you with this thought ("from a listener".....?!?!).......Sorry, age
showing!......:

The trouble with putting solar panels on the roof of the greenhouse is that
the plants object to the shade!

On with the battle!

Tony G.

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Holcoglossum flavescens x Rhynchstylis gigantea 'Var Petonian"
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:55

A first flowering for me of this little thing which has been in my
collection for the past 1/2 year or more . Can't find my tape measure to
put in the pic − but it's in a four inch basket, Flowers a bit under an
inch across. 10 buds and flowers. Not yet at its best − I note that the
earliest flower to open has turned from cream to white − so if and when
all of the buds/flowers are open and white I'll take another pic and add
- but I am away for a few weeks after Xmas, so I may easily miss it; my
excuse for posting now !

The Rhynco btw is said to be var Petoniana − can't find any ref to that
- and gigantea comes in many colours − I have whites, reds, orange and
peach − the last two not yet flowered − both of my whites are in early
spike. But R.gigantea is a much bigger plant − 15 inch leaf span maybe
24 inch ( no tape measure !) , leaves 2 inches wide.

I don't have this holco' species in my collection − they are hard to
find and I only have kimballianum so far . But from IOSPE it is a bit
bigger than this, flowers very similar although the lip is not all red ,
and of course being a holco' it is terete, which this is not.
So it may be that this is a precocious flowering on a baby , and it can
get much bigger − and have lots and lots of flowers ( the optimist
speaks ! )
But interesting, don't you think − if you are a vandaceous plants fan ,
as I am ?

Holcoglossum flavescens x Rhynchstylis gigantea 'Var Petonian"
https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid66cc6b7e29550ebd&pagebrowse
&resid66CC6B7E29550EBD!359&type5&authkey!ANpd5H8_r7Jm2uc&Bsrc
Photomail&BpubSDX.Photos

Geoff

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From: Alex
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Question.
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:55

Hello John − we use an Apple iMac G5, mainly my wife Trish's choice for
arty reasons. One problem is reading files sent by Windows people,
Appleworks often cannot read them so the advice of Jeff (I think) about
running a windows partition or using the free program suite 'Open office'
which translates just about everything is a good idea.
Regards, Alex

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From: Alex
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] You've received an e-card from Tricia Garner
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:00

Thanks for the ecard Tricia − (orchid-squad ! I love it)
Regards, Alex

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Question.
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:35

Quote Once you use a mac you will never go back to a PC;......Not actually true ; I changed from Windows ( perhaps back in the days of Windows 95 ? ) to a Mac,, and soon became disenchanted, and back to Windows I went.

My problem you see is that I am a perfectionist; that nothing ever goes wrong ( as the Apple people claim)is not enough for me , will it actually do what I want ? If the answer is ' no it was not designed to do that' then however well it does something else it's no use to me.

I think that my disenchantment flowed from wanting to install something or other , more than once , and finding out that no mac version was available. B eing told I could run Mac in Windows for the benefit of that piece of software, , as I was (!) seemed such a clumsy awkward plain cack-handed solution as to make any sensible person recoil in horror. It did me .
Before you make the switch, beware − you will need new software, and not all will be available !
Geoff

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Emailing: Greetings and Pics.
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:40

Nice Pleiones .

Confirmation is said on various web-pages, to be a hybrid between maculata and praecox. The RHS Register does not know about it , neither does Orchid-wiz.

Have the Pleione growers opted out ?

Geoff.

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From: jeff parkes
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Question.
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 06:10

Hello Geoff
Quote " Being told that you could run Mac in Windows ".. perhaps THAT would be the clumsy awkward plain cack-handed option to which you refer ( some people have tried it, but I would guess not many if you see the link below !!! ) , but running Windows on a Mac is smooth and efficient.
Do I detect Apple -phobia?, if so, you are missing out on wonderful products such as the ipad and iphone not to mention the ipod...
Having noted your interest changes in orchid types over many many years, I am sure that you would not be unhappy to try an apple again one day.. ( would certainly keep the windows doctor away )..... lots of things have changed since the Windows 95 days .
Anyway I look to this forum for orchid comments as the computer experts have their own groups
Good Growing in 2012
Jeff

Running Mac osx in windows
http://lifehacker.com/5583650/run-mac-os-x-in-virtualbox-on-windows

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Question.
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:35

jeff parkes wrote:

"Do I detect Apple -phobia?" ... not really , I recently bought an Apple laptop of some description ( I just wrote the cheque , ouch ! ) , as a present for a grand-daughter who had delighted me with her 4 A* and 6 plain A's at GCE or whatever they call it , and comes from a very bad environment and family background making her achievement all that much greater , I had promised her a present if she did well .....( now I have gone and promised her much more if she really does get a place at Wadham (Oxford) which is what she has set her heart on...cost me a lot more than an apple a day, I shouldn't wonder !

ipad − I have been mithering on and off for six months about whether to ask for one as my birthday present − in two weeks time ( my big 8 ...) but eventually decided that it won't do anything ( which I want to do) which my present PC, or laptop, or notebook won't do , so I have ordered the odd one or two (dozen) orchids from our Italian friends, to be sent when weather improves, instead...my dear wife is of course paying....

iphone − my generation is hardly into mobiles ! I have two actually ( not i-phones ) one of which is dedicated to my car , it came pre-plumbed so I thought I ought to have a phone to use the plumbing . I tried to use it the other day, and it seems I have been cut off , they say I hadn't used it since July 09....the other lives in my rucksack, for use in case I have a problem when out walking on my own. Can I tell you a funny story about mobiles ? I noted that I never had a call on mine,when I first had one , at the time when they were size of a brick , but after six months someone told me that I had to switch it on....

ipod − I'm not exactly sure what this is , I suspect its one of these box things the kids have on their arms at my gym to play i-tunes presumably − ; I'm happy just to watch the TV whilst I am grinding away on the rowing machine or whatever ( without bothering to plug in ear-phones , it's much more fun to imagine what they are talking about , anyway there is no serious news discussion on TV at the time I go which is when they first open ).

"Having noted your interest changes in orchid types over many many years, I am sure that you would not be unhappy to try an apple again one day.. ( would certainly keep the windows doctor away )..... lots of things have changed since the Windows 95 days .
Anyway I look to this forum for orchid comments as the computer experts have their own groups" ... But to contribute to groups one needs a certain minimum of IT expertise I think, and we have never been too strict about where the border lies. But I'll say no more except that yes, maybe I will change one day...

Good Growing to you too Jeff

Geoff

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From: Bill Haldane
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Christmas Pics
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:50

Please find attached some pics taken today. They are :-
a) Pleuro. phalangifera
b) Odontoglossum crispum (as I still know it!! − or is it now Onc. crispum?)
c) Dendrochilum javierii (my favourite table centre)
To all readers a Happy Christmas and a Prosperous New Year
Bill

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From: Elater
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Question.
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:15

Tricia makes an important point. The ultimate cost of setup and use between a Mac and an Windows machine is quite similar. I switched to Macs almost 10 years ago after a long series of hardware and software disappointments, difficulties, and frustrations. I tired of having to upgrade programs through tortuous routines and to find decently functional antiviral software, and to have a comp tech near at hand almost constantly. Simply, for me, Macs were and remain easier and more reliable. Now, the reliability of Windows is much better, though now I am habitualized to the smoothness and flow of OSX, and the less cartoony appearance of MicroSoft icons.

Between home and work I have, for my students and me, three Macs, a MacPro laptop, two iPads, an iPhone (all of which synchronize), and four desktop and laptop Windows machines running XP to W7, most with external backup drives, just in case due to experience. I have learned that Apple devices amortize better, even with an occasional harddrive failure. I am not a geek in any fashion, I just want reliable tools. I do not write progams, apps, or play games, and do not tolerate downtime, frequent hardware repairs or replacements, incompatability difficulties, harddrive reconstruction due to viruses, quirky software, blue screens of death, computer at the shop, etc. I also like the fact that newer Apple toys all Internet connect with minimal setup hassles. Indeed, Windows machines are much better now than in the recent past, but I still find Macs to be much more reliable. But, that is just me.

More to this list, the Stanhopea are still blooming, and the winter blooming Coelogyne, such as C, mooreana, are coming on strong.

Happy holidays!

Paul

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
"Experience has shown, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations perverted it into tyranny." Thomas Jefferson

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Christmas Pics
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:15

Lovely, lovely plants, Bill. I like them all a lot, but the
Pleurothallis is really special − it has gone straight on to my
must-have list! I see there are some colour variations but the red is
the one I prefer.

--

Tricia

You need to be very careful when drawing up a specification, otherwise you risk getting what you ask for rather than what you want.

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Christmas Pics
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:40

I do like that Pleuro ! Is it a cool customer or a warmer charmer ?

geoff

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From: Bill Haldane
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Christmas Pics
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:05

The Pleuro grows cool (min. 50F) . The plant came via Malcolm Perry who
in the past had a good collection of PLeuros.
Bill

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From: Tina Stagg
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Christmas Pics
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:25

My favourite is the dendrochilum, Bill. Congratulations − very well grown. I have two newer/smaller versions of javierii but, although in bud, are not likely to flower for a while yet. I keep my intermediate house at about 14/15C min. What temperature are you growing at?

Just a short note as the ham is glazing and the kitchen chaos needs my attention. The Messiah on radio 3 is good though.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year everyone.
Tina

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From: Bill Haldane
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Christmas Pics
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 09:30


Hi Tina!
My Dendrochilum is grown in the intermediate section (Min.. 15C) in a
fast draining compost.
Have a lovely holiday!!
Bill

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From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Christmas Pics
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:55

I took this picture today. The flowers started in the first of November
and will boom until March. The orchid grows on a palm (for 20 year) and
it can be seen in three rooms in our house. This is our Christmas
orchid for everyone.

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From: Peter Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Christmas Pics
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:00

Hi Jordan,

and what is the name of this beautiful plant/flower?

Peter

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Christmas Pics
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:45

Now this one has me guessing Jordan shape says Broughtonia, and stem length too, but it looks a lot more vigorous than any ( species or hybrid) I have grown and the leaves remind me of something else − − the genus which used to be Dialaelia but then I have never been able to grow in near natural conditions on a palm tree in my garden.

Should like to know its name !

Geoff

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From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Christmas Pics
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:00

My Henry Goldberg was a Ctna. when it was given to me.

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Christmas Pics
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:45

Thanks J ;it seems that its is now a Guaricattonia (!) correct name seems to be Gct. Memoria Henry Goldberg .

It dates back to 1987 (year of registration) by Seagulls Orchids which is a name I have not heard for a long time , maybe no longer in business.

I recall that my first epicat as they were then was one of theirs.

Geoff

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From: Max Redman
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Christmas Pics
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 00:10

Lovely flower, What is it?

Max.

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From: Paul Johnson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Bourdon's
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 04:20

Might someone on this list have some contact information for Michel
and Marie-France Bourdon? E-mail would be great, but a terrestrial
mail address would be good, too. Or, somebody that might know
somebody that knows somebody, that knows. . . some information on the
Bourdons?

Paul



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