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15—21 September

From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Query
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:35

I have been sending e-mails to the Epric Foundation in the Netherlands without success.
Has anyone been in touch recently and if so what e-mail address did you use?


From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Query
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:45


They are subscribed to the list with the address epric@worldonline.nl
although mails are often bounced back for one reason or another.

Hope that helps,



Why is the third hand on the watch called second hand?


From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re-emergence.
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:00

Hi all, Roger 'Rocky' Grier reporting back and on duty.

Well folks, I longer grow orchids in a heated greenhouse, as for me it is so much better to spend all that money on other things that I like.

However, I still have a great interest in this fantastically huge hobby, but almost all of my effort is now focused on our U.K. terrestrial orchids. And to that end, what a lousy year it has been here in the U.K.

I still read articles and look at small books on 'Orchid Culture;, and what a lot of nonsense is still written.

On the other hand I was reading an article telling how an epiphytic orchid perched at the end of a Gum Tree branch in Queensland gets its food. Bird and Monkey droppings.............what a lot of cobblers. Maybe people should pay more attention to fact.

Cheers for now, Rocky.


From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Why
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:05

Hi all,

Have a look at the Burnt-Tip Orchid counts from an area not too far from my home, and which I often visit.

I do not believe in Global Warming, nor do I believe in Rising Sea Levels.

So, what is going on with for one, some of our wild orchids????



From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Young lady.
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:05

Hi David,

So, why I am back????????

Met a very nice young lady yesterday evening.

Cheers, Rodge.


To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Betr: Re: Query
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:00

Our email address is epric@telfort.nl and in case of large files epric.foundation@gmail.com

The problem with the messages here are the some enormous jpg files attached
to the email going to epric@telfort.nl We can use only 5mb at one day.

greetings frank supplie


From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Young lady.
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:35

Hello Rodge,
My daughter said she met you and enjoyed your talk. She knows a lot about orchids but was intrigued by your method of growing in granite chippings. She liked the discussion at the end about members problems with scale insects etc.


From: Lynda Coles
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Why
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:20

Roger....nice to see you are back posting about the native terrestrials.

Your observations of the burnt-tip are very interesting....do you have similar records of the weather for any of the years you have listed? It is assumed that O.ustulata seeds germinate in the summer and autumn of shedding and the resulting protocorms can spend three years or more underground before producing a leaf, flowering a few years after that. Protocorm of Orchis species are known to die in summer droughts (Rasmussen) and the rhizomes/tubers to rot in overwet conditions. That is a big and sudden difference from several hundred to less than 20 when the population was fairly stable (sort of) for many years before....my guess is unfavourable weather conditions at critical points in their growth cycle....maybe over several consecutive years but particularly Autumn 2009 to spring/summer of 2010, was not that the year when we had extended periods of very cold weather before christmas and again in the february/march?. This could have killed plants at all
stages of development across the population......just a guess... but worth comparing weather patterns with numbers of plants counted each year if you can.

O.ustulata is a small plant, they could be making leaf but no spikes and individual plants may be short lived ( I can't find any info about life-span at the moment or whether that specie tends to flower only once then dies)...I know other species can revert to foliage only growth if grass & other plant species grow too quickly and overshadow/crowd them out....
Be interested to know of anything you find out.



From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Young lady.
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:55

Hi David,

As I said, it was so nice when your Daughter introduced herself...............it fired me up to get back on line as they say.

I always try to make my talks 'available' to people on a no nonsense way. Glad she liked it.



From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Missing orchids.
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:10

Hi Lynda,

The site where the Burnt-tip orchids grow and the count was taken, is 'Martin Down' on the Hampshire-Wiltshire border, and it is a great site for Naturalists......like myself.

As many people, gardeners especially, are moaning about this years weather and also last years cold spell, it also showed up last year as on two sites that know, there were NO Frog orchids at all. The whole site was almost devoid of wild flowers.

Back to Martin Down. Last year saw hardly any Frog orchids there, BUT, the Greater Butterfly orchids were superb.

And the last item for now....................this year in my garden I counted thirty one Broad-leaved Helleborine plants.

Strange going ons, but so interesting.

Cheers, Rodge.


From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Alternative composts.
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:40

Hello again David,

As your Daughter was interested in my growing orchids in stone chippings, may I suggest that she 'Google's something like......growing orchids in Hydraleca.

I have known about this for many years, in fact you may remember my talking about Fennel's Orchid Jungle in Florida.

There are now very many people who grow using this type of 'compost'.

My lever-arch folder is bursting at the seams with the information that I have gathered over forty years or more, plus all of the other knowledge gained.

Hydraleca [hope that is the correct spelling] sure looks good.

Cheers, Rodge.


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