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March 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-31 April 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-30
May 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-31 June 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-30
July 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-31 August 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-31
September 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-30 October 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-31
November 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-30 December 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-31

15—21 August

From: Geoff. Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: new piccy
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:30

Registered 1973 by Stewarts . I bought it from the collection of a deceased grower, and as so often in those cases the compost was terrible − near dust − and the plant not in good condition. One year on , it has a new set of roots, and a cane 3/4 the height of the last one, but nice flowers , if a bit old-fashioned.
I'm not too sure of the name − it was labelled Leafwood "Limelight" − and after looking at Orchidwiz i thought this the more likely of the two possibilities. , Maybe someone here still has it, and can correct me − the alternative btw is Leafwood Jade 'Limelight' − but that is a BLC and I can't see any BLC here.

I have been away sunning it in provence, and now back find a lot of plants to snap as well as a lot of work to do. I had forgotten my problems with e-mail and pics and all that – but now i bring them to mind, I’ll stay here with Windows mail and single pics for a bit. I just have too much else to do , to spend a few hours/weeks/years on computer problems !

Geoff

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From: Geoff. Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: and another
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:55

There should be an umlaut over the "o" − but they are not quickly accessible on my keyboard ( just being pernickety ! ).
I don't think I grow Angraecums very well for me − although the plant is flowering ; bought as a young plant a few years ago. I guess they are quite slow growing − it's like watching paint dry as the saying goes.
I also don't actually see the point of this cross ; in most respects this is just Ang sesquipedale, but only six inches across instead of seven, and with a 9 inch spur instead of a 12 inch one. So what ? I am an ungrateful chap it seems.
Maybe you'll like it more than I do.

Geoff

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From: Geoff. Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: A third pic today.
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 14:10

I bought a compot of this in 1992 from a guy in Bangkok who told me it had been his first successful meristem prop. I sold most of them ( I was in the business in a tiny way at that time- actually just buying plants for my own collection, but selling off the surplus from each of the handful of importations I did − this being necessary as no-one in UK imported any Vandas at all then). So this plant is some 20 years old.
Digital photography is very interesting ; looking at the plant with human eyes, I thought what beautiful foliage I have ; not a mark anywhere, all leaves a lovely clear green ; but the camera sensor sees leaves starting to turn yellow . I find this quite remarkable.
A spike of about 14 buds and flowers , and a second spike − on the keiki, just about visible.
As for size, its in a 10 inch pot, repotted in the Spring in coarse pine bark.

geoff

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From: Geoff. Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: 3rd pic of the day
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:45

I bought a compot of this in 1992 from a guy in Bangkok who told me it had been his first successful meristem prop. I sold most of them ( I was in the business in a tiny way at that time- actually just buying plants for my own collection, but selling off the surplus from each of the handful of importations I did − this being necessary as no-one in UK imported any Vandas at all then). So this plant is some 20 years old.
Digital photography is very interesting ; looking at the plant with human eyes, I thought what beautiful foliage I have ; not a mark anywhere, all leaves a lovely clear green ; but the camera sensor sees leaves starting to turn yellow . I find this quite remarkable.
A spike of about 14 buds and flowers , and a second spike − on the keiki, just about visible.
As for size, its in a 10 inch pot, repotted in the Spring in coarse pine bark.

Geoff

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From: Geoff. Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Another of the plants in flower I found on my return from Provence
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:05

Another of the plants I found in flower on returning from a week abroad . Actually I had spotted it before I went, but was rather busy for the last week or so , and never got around to bringing it down and looking at it or taking a pic.
I find whites and yellows − in the larger flowered Ascdas and Vandas ( this is almost as big as a standard broad-leaf Vanda hybrid − flowers say 9cm or so − as you can see from one of the pics − I am not known for having dainty little hands !) to be a little tricky in getting perfect flowers. They so easily have deformed ones or touches of stain − as here. In fact if a spike is going to abort on one of my Vandas, a white or yellow is the most likely colour. Maybe the plant will improve as it matures − this is the first time I recall having flowers worth a pic. ( of course, the prince of whites − Tubtim Velvet − is the most perfect b****** in this respect − even if it does produce two and even three spikes at a time − it is rare for me to get a complete good spike of flowers.
Ah well, if it were that easy, I guess I'd give up and go and find something more difficult to do.
BTW I see this one is producing a second spike now- as can be seen.

Geoff

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From: Geoff. Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: A yellow Vanda
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:25

See my comments on my slightly earlier posting ( Ascda Siberian White) in relation to the slight imperfections seen here. This is another plant I have had for 2-3 years and this is the nearest to a good spike I have yet seen − and it looks like a ten-flower spike too, when all out. Worth persisting with in my mind ; nice to see something different from Blues, Reds and Purples.

Geoff

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From: Geoff. Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: a very bright red ascda
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:50

A very unusually bright Ascda − and once again slightly deformed flowers ; no excuse about yellow or white here -some cultural thing which affected many of my plants at the same time perhaps ? But not all − see the blue Vanda which I post next.
Not large − maybe 3-4cm flowers. But the colour shown on my monitor seems quite true ; in fact I thought I must have a second plant of Kagawaara Kultana Red when I caught sight of it ( the actual plant of that cross is just going over), But no, this is what it is. I can't think of any Ascda this colour, although hybrids including a shot of Renanthera blood get near it. When I have a moment I must look up the genealogy.

Geoff

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From: Geoff. Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: a good blue vanda
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:55

I am a sucker for good blues, although I bought several of this grex unseen, on the basis of the first one I had. The flower size, now fully developed will be plain − a whisker off 12 cm, and this off a plant which is only 10 inches or so high − a spike of 8 too.
But − with reference to my comments about deformed flowers, no trace of that here !
No more Vandas tonight − no more postings − my wrist is beginning to ache.

Geoff

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From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] new piccy
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:30

Looks like it might have a bit of Cat. guttata alba in it?
Peter F., Alton.

Geoff Hands wrote re: [OrchidTalk] new piccy

... it was labelled Leafwood "Limelight" − and after looking at Orchidwiz i thought this the more likely of the two possibilities. , Maybe someone here still has it, and can correct me − the alternative btw is Leafwood Jade 'Limelight' − but that is a BLC and I can't see any BLC here.

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From: Alex
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] a good blue vanda
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 00:10

I like the blue one the best − definitely a 'delight'. I wonder if the
others are such a deep blue?
Regards, Alex

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From: Geoff.Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] new piccy
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:05

Leafwood Lane is 75% guttata, 25% xanthina. Leafwood Jade is Leafwood lane crossed with Chinese jade, which is 50% guttata, and 50% the well known hybrid Greenwich ( e.g. Elmhurst variety) . So whichever way round, it is at least 60% guttata.

Geoff

Peter Fowler wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] new piccy

Looks like it might have a bit of Cat. guttata alba in it?
Peter F., Alton.

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From: john Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] a good blue vanda
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:45

Geoff,
I recall an exchange with you, way back in the Middle Ages when we woz both
youths, about the problem of getting true blues of orchids with a digital
camera, (the physical digital true blues rather than the political ones). I
think we concluded that the sensitivities of digital cameras to wavelengths
of blues wasn't the same as human eyes. I also suspect that we are more
'picky' when looking at flower blues because the colour is so often a
criterion for recognition/identification. Another problem is that the route
from camera sensor to visual experience goes through a chain of adjustable
devices -camera, exposure lighting, printer, paper or projector, TV, not to
mention ambient lighting. All need to be in mutual sympathy if the outcome
isn't a battle of the different technologies.

Do you still have problems reproducing an accurate blue colour or has the
technology caught up with you?
I recently treated myself to a Nikon D5000 and the problem is vastly reduced
compared with my old(er) D100.
I suspect that I am getting less discriminating than I once was but straight
from the camera (as opposed to looking at its LCD viewing screen which isn't
wonderful) I get better or more accurate blues than before. What I also find
more useful than I like to admit, is the fact that I can perform so many
'tweaks' post-exposure in-camera (contrast, brightness colour adjustments,
cropping and so on.

I have to say that I now tend to view photographs more on HD-TV via an HDMI
cable from the camera or a laptop. Partly because I think it's more
sociable, partly because of the time and cost taken to make prints, and
partly because the house is full of card-mounted fading ones.

Hope your keeping well
John

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From: Geoff.Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] a good blue vanda
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:50

Thanks for all that John, which I read with much interest; I gave up photography as a second hobby , i.e. making exhibition prints -when I found that I had wandered far along the path and it was taking up more and more time ( especially since I enjoyed making collages from several different images with a great deal of tweaking my most fanciful had I think 27 layers, before it was flattened and I reckon I spent about a hundred hours on it before I made a final version for exhibition use and nowadays, prints are disappearing from exhibitions, so I only made a large TIFF file even for that all Photoshop stuff of course ).

And then one day an old friend was travelling across the country for lunch with us, and commented that he was so looking forward to seeing my orchids and I rushed into the greenhouse and was rather ashamed at the neglected state of the plants. A vicious circle too neglect poor plants, don t want to spend time with them more neglect. I decided that something would have to go . Photography or orchids ? .... no contest, when put like that.
I was surprised at how quickly the collection improved when I went back to spending more time with them. Weeks rather than months, but the upward curve continued and maybe still does, because the graph becomes a spiral of more attention, better plants, in the same way as the downward vicious circle did ( OK no geometry remarks please − I do know the difference between a circle and a helix, but but both look the same in plan view !
So my photography now, apart from holiday stuff which is downloaded straight into the lap-top I take with me , to give a slide show on the lap-top screen, is the pics I put up here, ( and elsewhere) and use also for any writing or possibly talks . So no processing apart from cropping, levels, sharpening, maybe dodge out the background stuff like that. If the colour is wrong I complain, but don t do much about it since adjusting one colour and leaving the rest unchanged is too time time-consuming even if the required colour is in gamut.
But I am interested in your comment about better colour with a later model ; I use a D300 and have no plans to change that , but also a more recent Fuji super-zoom. I have not experimented with colours comparing the two but will give it a go.
Geoff

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Ceratostylis retisquama
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:25

I am not sure if I have shown you this before ? It was in flower in June, when it had 7 or 8 flowers, and now again with 10 or 12.

I think when happy it has a small number of flowers in succession on each new growth. Flower maybe 3 or 4 cm across , and such a cheerful colour. A favourite of mine ever since I discovered it and then found how easy it is.. from the Phillipnes where it grows in mats. I intend to pot this into a larger pan, and try and emulate that.

Geoff

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Phaius francoisii
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:30

This is a miniature Phaius – as compared to the giant P.tankervilliae ; not always called Phaius – used to be Gastro something or other. Flower spike about 2 feet high with six or seven of these flowers each about 2 and half inches across.

I have grown it for several years , wondering what it needed to flower – rest ,get pot bound ? etc. ,,,or was it just not big enough ? probably the latter . Certainly it pushed up the spike quite quickly and has only had normal growing treatment this year.

Geoff

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Miltassia Royal Robe 'Diplomat'
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:35

Quite a big plant now growing in aquaculture – probably a 7 inch pot. Has three flowering growths with 4,5 and 6 flowers respectively. I don’t think its as bright and colourful as I remember when I grew it this way at Minchinhampton – I don’t think it has flowered since – but returned to aquaculture it has started to improve everywhere. Maybe another year will see a change in flower colour too.

Geoff

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: 590 Eria obesa
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:55

This is another try at using Windows Live mail to send multiple pics ; when sent to myself, I get thumbnails of all three images and a link 'slide show”. If I click on the link I get medium sized pics and an arrow allowing me to cycle through the images, and clicking on any one image it then expands to fill the screen. So if it can do this, there is no problem with small images, innit ?

Please let me know . I have spent so much time trying to get a decent e-mail system – all right I am a fusspot – and still haven’t managed so am sticking to this one, which currently ( after a fit of the sulks when it asked for my password 19 times before it believed me ! ) at least works even if it is not perfection. * before you say ' why don’t you use..... see the p.s which lists what I actually want – and indeed used to get ! )

Back to the subject – the name , Presumably from the little fat buds before they open ? Not a giant − the third pic shows the whole pot – a 'great big” 7cm ( just under 3 inch ) one, so flowers maybe 4mm or thereabouts.

I have only had this a few weeks, but it signalled its pleasure at its new home with this flower spike. One to show my great-grandchildren when they come − little kids always love little flowers − maybe they have better eyes than us old folk and see the details better ?

Geoff

ps
What I want ; mail automatically sorted into different mailboxes according to whether it comes from list, or other specified senders, or miscellaneous. One copy – not three ! automatically kept of every message I send, new e-mail addresses automatically put into address book ; handling images the way you want , .....messages sent automatically...

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From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Bifrenaria Jack King
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:00

I am looking for a picture of Bifrenaria Jack King. I think he was a member of Wessex or Bournmouth OS and did a lot of work with bifrenariass. Thanks
Regards

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: 591 Phrag longifolium variety Dariense
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:25

From the famous − or infamous ( depending on whether or not it’s you that has been held to ransom in the jungle for the last year or two ) Darien Gap in Columbia.
Has been flowering now for about 4 or 5 months ; 5 or 6 spikes, flowering successional , sometimes branching too − has been as many as 12 flowers more or less open at once, but I missed the snap on that occasion, and the 5 or so you see here is about the norm.
I have been heard to have a good whinge about this in the past , after paying a lot of money for a single growth , which often produced malformed flowers, but it is settling down now to be quite worthwhile. It may be that when happier it will keep flowers longer too.
The EYOF in Jersey shows phrags, sometimes great big plants with five foot flower spikes and lots of flowers all open ; we − me and orchid friends − looking at them have been heard to wonder aloud, how they manage to keep all those flowers on , and the odd joker would cry "superglue"... no , not me − I never opened my mouth. Actually, it's just super culture of very good clones, I suspect.

Geoff

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Fw: 591 − two pics − of Phragmepedium longifolium, variety dariense
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 17:30

Sorry about the earlier posting with data files – I simply have no idea\ why Photoshop should even want to save in that format !

From the famous − or infamous ( depending on whether or not it’s you that has been held to ransom in the jungle for the last year or two ) Darien Gap in Columbia.
Has been flowering now for about 4 or 5 months ; 5 or 6 spikes, flowering successional , sometimes branching too − has been as many as 12 flowers more or less open at once, but I missed the snap on that occasion, and the 5 or so you see here is about the norm.
I have been heard to have a good whinge about this in the past , after paying a lot of money for a single growth , which often produced malformed flowers, but it is settling down now to be quite worthwhile. It may be that when happier it will keep flowers longer too.
The EYOF in Jersey shows phrags, sometimes great big plants with five foot flower spikes and lots of flowers all open ; we − me and orchid friends − looking at them have been heard to wonder aloud, how they manage to keep all those flowers on , and the odd joker would cry "superglue"... no , not me − I never opened my mouth. Actually, it's just super culture of very good clones, I suspect.

Geoff

Phrag. longifolium var Dariense
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This album has 2 photos and will be available on SkyDrive until 17/11/2011.

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From: Tina Stagg
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Geoff's problems
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 18:45

Outlook Express does everything you want, Geoff. Do you have your computer set for automatic updates? It does iron out any wrinkles.

Tina

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From: Kenneth Bruyninckx
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Fw: 591 − two pics − of Phragmepedium longifolium, variety dariense
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 19:15

Geoff,

I was a bit surprised when I saw the pictures.

Not being a Phrag expert, but this would in my opinion be the hybrid Phrag. Sedenii ( Phragmipedium schlimii Phragmipedium longifolium)?

Kind regards,

Kenneth.

Kenneth Bruyninckx

Akerne Orchids

Laarsebeekdreef 4, B-2900 Schoten, Belgium

tel. +32 (0)3 651 40 36 fax +32 (0)3 653 06 76


www.akerne-orchids.com

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: 590 Eria obesa
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 22:50

Geoff, the only thing wrong with these pics and the previous ones
which were displayed as data files is that the .jpg suffix is missing.

Tricia

Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it.

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Fw: 591 − two pics − of Phragmepedium longifolium, variety dariense
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 08:45

The plant came from a member of the RHS Orchid committee , who is also quite a slippers expert....

However I do have Sedenii in my collection , so maybe the labels got muddled ?

Thanks for the suggestion I will take the plant along next week when I expert to see the guy I bought the genuine longifolium from.

regards

geoff

Kenneth Bruyninckx wrote RE: [OrchidTalk] Fw: 591 − two pics − of Phragmepedium longifolium, variety dariense

Geoff,

I was a bit surprised when I saw the pictures.

Not being a Phrag expert, but this would in my opinion be the hybrid Phrag. Sedenii ( Phragmipedium schlimii Phragmipedium longifolium)?

Kind regards,

Kenneth.

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From: Geoff
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Geoff's problems
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 08:50

Quote

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end of quote.....

Geoff

and the moral is.... !

Tina Stagg wrote re: [OrchidTalk] Geoff's problems

Outlook Express does everything you want, Geoff. Do you have your computer set for automatic updates? It does iron out any wrinkles.

Tina

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From: Richard Baxter
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] 590 Eria obesa
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 09:45

Sorry, Geoff, but the pictures cannot be viewed on my system.
When trying to open them I get a Notepad window filled with gobbledegook.
The heading for your message is 590 Eria obesa − unicode (UTF-8) if that helps.

I have always been able to view your pictures previously.
Richard

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From: Richard Baxter
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] 590 Eria obesa
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 09:50

That is better, I can see the pictures in Tricia's response.
Richard

"Tricia Garner" wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] 590 Eria obesa

Geoff, the only thing wrong with these pics and the previous ones
which were displayed as data files is that the .jpg suffix is missing.

Tricia

Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it.

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Pictures
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:10

Geoff,

You are sending your pictures on Skydrive again, many people can’t get them. Send them as attachments as I explained before. I think only Vista and 7 can decode them, sorry to be having a niggle.

David

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Bifrenaria Jack King
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:20

Hello Dennis, Peter Fowler wrote in the October 2007 Archives that
the Westmores flowered and named the hybrid so maybe Graham will have
a picture of it, although Thelma was the photographer. If you don't
have contact details for him I can put you on touch off list.

On 19 August Dennis Read wrote:

I am looking for a picture of Bifrenaria Jack King. I think he was
a member of Wessex or Bournmouth OS and did a lot of work with
bifrenariass. Thanks
Regards

--

Tricia

Vital papers will demonstrate their vitality by moving from where you left them to where you can't find them.

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From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Bifrenaria Jack King
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 14:15

Thanks Tricia. Graham asked me to hybridise B. Jack King and loaned me the plant. I crossed it with B. tetragona. It was a difficult cross and I gave a flask to Graham but he had no success. Most of mine also died when I moved here but one plant survived. Maybe next year it will flower.
Regards

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From: nancy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Geoff's problems
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 16:15

Thunderbird (apparently heard you) and has just updated to include a calendar; as items are added, you can choose whether to be notified of these, and at what intervals.
Yahoomail's calendar has become updated to the point of "not usable".
Cheers − Nancy

"I won't take my religion from any man who never works

except with his mouth." -------- Carl Sandburg

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