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September 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-30 October 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-31
November 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-30 December 1-7 8-14 15-21 22-31

June 22—30

From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Orchid books for sale − proceeds to charity
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 00:00

The attached is a list of orchid books offered for sale by Theo
Dengel. I agreed to send this out as he is a friend of Richard
Baxter, and also the proceeds are going to charity. Just wish I could
afford the Thesaurus Masdevalliarum!

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Tricia

I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Current Flowerings
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:50

Very interesting plants Bill. I wonder what the pollenating insects are. The
flowers are well protected from the rain.
David

Bill Haldane wrote: [OrchidTalk] Current Flowerings

For those interested in pleurothallids please see the attached pics
taken yesterday of two of the more unusual pleuros.
The first is P. tarantula and the leaf width is 85mm. The flower colour
is dark to almost black.
The third pic. is P. teaguii with individual flowers 30mm across putting
it at the upper end of flower size for Pleuros.
Hope you enjoy them.
Bill

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: me
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:30

It is touching that several members have made direct or indirect enquiries
about me , so that in the end I had to say something.

This is of course a conversation.or something approaching it.

I stopped posting because it seemed to have become, largely, a monologue ,
and I started to ask myself the question "why is it that you want to talk to
yourself here ?"

Since I don't want the men in white coats to come and lead me away, I
decided to stop.

I am now a lurker ; I may be drawn back into posting, since I still receive
( and so far, read ! ) postings.

My bet wishes to all

Geoff

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: List of contributors-readers-followers − mainly for Tricia
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:00

John,
I guess Geoff is one of the members to whom you refer − as you no
doubt will have seen, he has surfaced in reply. I have been in
contact to ask if he's OK and was going to forward his response to
the list but he's rendered that unnecessary!

You may also be wondering about Roger; he left the group a while ago
to pursue his interest in native orchids. No, I don't know why he
considers them mutually exclusive :-)

With regard to others, it isn't all that easy to know if some of the
longer term members are still current as sometimes I don't get notice
of undelivered messages e.g. I didn't know about Barry Gardner until
Tony W. wrote about his books being sold.

We have had some new members this year: Brian Gould, Lise Gunby, Dawn
Leslie and Mike Miles. Theo Dengel, whose books were mentioned
recently also joined today. Welcome to you all and hope to hear from
you if we haven't already. Perhaps I ought to notify the group when
someone joins so we can welcome them properly.

--

Tricia

Procrastination is the art of keeping up with yesterday.

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From: john Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] List of contributors-readers-followers − mainly for Tricia
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:55

Thanks Tricia,

From which institution did you get your degree in telepathy? Is it a B.T.,
M.T., T.D. or D.T.? Not Hogwarts, surely?

Seriously though, I am getting to the age when some of my former
contemporaries are no longer contemporaneous and I was anxious that the
person you guessed was still OK. As for me, I'm still taking the elixir but,
then, life is sadly a terminal condition I suppose.

On a completely different topic I have re-kindled my interest in James
Bateman's history. Years ago (42 years ago in fact) I was trying to interest
someone (anyone!) in a gallery of fossils arranged as a compromise between
science (Darwinism) and Biblical Creation. After all these years and a few
false starts, The National Trust is getting its act together and celebrating
Bateman. Typically, they don't seem to be aware of the history of the
collection since my involvement and, with colleagues, we are trying to
re-educate them! You, no doubt, know of Bateman ('s gardener) as the
supplier to Darwin of Angraecum sesquipedale with the predicted long tongued
moth pollinator discovered after Darwin's death (Xanthopan morganii
praedicta). The significance of Bateman, his ideas, Biddulph Grange Garden
and the state of popular ideas in the mid 19thC is so fascinating that it
has diverted me from other emails! However, in case you wondered, I am still
as potential a 'pain in the you know what' with my rambling emails as ever!

I don't know if Bateman is a valid item of O-T group interest but if you'd
like periodic progress reports I'll keep you posted.

Cheers and thanks again
John

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From: john Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] me
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:15

Hi Geoff,
Nice to know that you are still alive and kicking . . . or, at least, alive!
Anyhow, better the men in white coats than their hangers-on in black suits!

I have to admit that I, too, have been somewhat remiss regards OT of late but have become time consumingly involved, with a couple of colleagues, in re-educating a few folks who should know better about James Bateman (orchids of Mexico and Guatemala, Biddulph Grange, a creationist-science fossil gallery, Angraecum sesquipedale and stuff. If you re interested I ll fill you in (Oops! Maybe I should rephrase that!)

The last I heard you had gallivanted off to Africa, I think. That gives the impression that you are well.

I can speak only for myself and I understand your anxiety over the monologue syndrome. However, even a monologue is hundreds of percent more interesting than anything less. Why not leave it to us to suggest to you when you should cease emailing? (If we last long enough!)

Incidentally, have you any views on the Olympic event allegedly threatening the safety of the Box Hill SSSI? Is it a real threat or an issue worked up for news?

Nice to hear you again. Keep emailing!
Cheers
John

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From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Slugit
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:30

For years I have used Slugit to control slugs and snails as it kills them as soon as they can walk/slide. Pellets only kill the large beasties but the small ones do the most damage.
My garden centre is finding it difficult to locate a supply and Amazon is not much help.
Any suggestions for an effective liquid killer?
Regards

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From: Alex
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] me
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:25

Geoff − what about all the pictures? at least you can send a few every
now and then!
Regards, Alex

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From: john Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Slugit
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 23:45

Hi Dennis,

(Yes, I ve been resurrected! Was busy doing other things for a month or so.)

Re; your pet slugs. Is there no prospect of allowing/encouraging a frog or froglet or two into your greenhouse. Sadly we lost our grown-up one in the serious winter cold but others are back now. They are pretty voracious for slugs but probably won t enjoy Slugit pellets even if you can get em. Ours have found their own way in through (presumably) tiny access holes or nipped in when we weren t looking. They seem to like the environment we create.

We ve had friendly frogs for years now and they are so good at their job that we have to keep friends with them by occasionally supplementing their diet with a few mealworms. They seem to do no harm at all even when they take a nap in the top of a plant pot but, mainly, they hop about in gravel trays or leap out when we move some item that hasn t been disturbed for a time.

Unless anyone has other thoughts, I know of no downside to striking up friendships with them, after all, one made E.D.Baker s Frog Princess happy enough and there s no telling what your slugs might turn into!
Worth a thought!

Cheers
John

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From: Tony Watkinson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Slugit
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:00

Hi Dennis

I have found two liquid killers that you can use to ward off the dreaded slug & snails, neither of which is regarded as really bad nasty.

The first is stuff that is sold here as Alginox. It is used in swimming pools for killing off algae, bacteria and so forth. You only need something like 1 or 2 milliliters per liter for it to work. I use it with my fertiliser once every three or four weeks. I have noticed that Old Mans Beard does not like it and dies off rapidly but it doesn't seem to bother orchids. I know a grower of vandas who sprays the whole plant leaving some in the leaf axels with no detrimental effects.

The second is good old household ammonia. (I am sure we have discussed this before on OT) You can use it at a rate of 25% per liter with no deleterious effects. On the plus side, I am told that it degrades down to nitrogen, which the orchids love. Just water your orchids with this mix. I have not seen any slugs/snails this winter so far. (Touches wood and crosses fingers etc)

I don't usually post much here but I guess Geoff's comments will be a wake up call to us all.

Regards

Tony
(The one in Perth Western Australia)

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Slugit
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 06:20

I too found that ; but after searching I found that LBS would supply me from their trade ist if I bought a dozen bottles. That was maybe last year, maybe the year before I m still using that supply. Note, they did not, at that time, have it on their retail list . Also note it may now be called Scotts Liquid Concentrate Slug Clear but it is the same stuff./

www.lbsbuyersguide.co.uk

Geoff

Dennis Read wrote re: [OrchidTalk] Slugit

...My garden centre is finding it difficult to locate a supply and Amazon is not much help.

Any suggestions for an effective liquid killer?

Regards

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] me
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 06:20

Hands up all those who didn't go to Peterborough − I have a set of 40 odd
that I made for another purpose ?

Geoff

Alex wrote: Re: [OrchidTalk] me

Geoff − what about all the pictures? at least you can send a few every now
and then!
Regards, Alex

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] me
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 07:25

Geoff,
I always enjoy your e-mails and pictures. There s always the delete button for those who don t. A lot of the people in the club don t have greenhouses and only have a few Phals in the house but they are still interested in weird and wonderful plants on view.
David

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From: john Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Stating the obvious for those who haven't realised;TV images
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 23:10

Incidental to our collective interests in orchids is an interest in photographing them. It doesn’t seem very long ago when photographers were arguing the respective merits of ‘digital’ versus ‘film’ and yet now, I understand that ‘old’ lenses designed for film do not have adequate resolution for good digital sensors! While this progress has been happening, many of us have been fortunate enough to acquire high definition (HD) TVs which are fed a signal through an HDMI lead.
Several of my friends haven’t noticed that their cameras are also provided with a mini HDMI output socket and the few who have, have not bothered to equip themselves with a ‘mini’ HDMI plug adaptor to take advantage of it.
For non-nerds, ssentially, all this techi-stuff means that it is possible to display, directly from your camera onto your high definition TV, your digital images and manipulate (zoom-in or in some cases perform basic edits) with them. Because a TV display is not an obvious or traditional display method it seems to be disregarded as ‘another gimick’ whereas it is probably the most significant advance since digital colour printers and far better, in the domestic environment, than a digital projector.
If you are a cynic (and who isn’t) who believes that the difference offered by HDTV is only marginally better than basic digital LCD TV, you may have tried ‘going in’ to your TV with a composite video camera output and not been too impressed. May I suggest you have another try using HDMI?
In fact, an HDMI input from a camera that posesses the appropriate output socket, or from a PC or laptop with an HDMI output is a revelation that beats group-viewing of the average monitor hands down and, of course, is an ideal way of showing friends your orchid (or other) photos. It is also cheaper than a fistful of prints.
It is currently after 10.00 pm and I nipped out to the greenhouse and took a (poor) photo of a phally by flash. This is the image labelled Nikon (D5000 with a 55-200mm lens)) in the attached images. I then displayed the photo on the telly (an early Sony HDTV) and photographed the screen using my wife’s Canon non-reflex camera (SX30IS). The result is labelled Canon as attachment 2. (I didn’t have any orchid images currently on my SD memory card)
Neither are brilliant photos but I believe the the small loss in picture quality, even with a magnification of the full TV screen image between the two speaks for itself and reveals how good an HDMI TV image really is!.
Has anyone else played about with this technique?
John

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From: john Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] me
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:05

Hand up!
Unfortunately Geoff, going to Peterborough from Crewe isn't free and, in
line with government policy (got to blame someone) we're having to
economise. However, the idea of keeping in touch with photographs seems a
good idea. In any case, your perception of boring Handsian monologues is
certainly not shared by some of us! Me at least.
Best wishes
John

Geoff Hands wrote RE: [OrchidTalk] me

Hands up all those who didn't go to Peterborough − I have a set of 40 odd
pics that I made for another purpose ?

Geoff

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From: N & T Burgess
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] me
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:40

I went but would like to see your pictures as they are so much better than I could do.

Norma

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From: john Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Orchid books for sale − proceeds to charity
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:55

Hi Tricia,
A friend of mine, Steve Manning, who is a Masdevallia specialist (he holds
the nation Collection held at Chester Zoological Gardens greenhouse and
wrote the recent book − attached)) was interested in the list but he has
virtually all of the most interesting ones (including the £1300 one!) I
offered to act on his behalf since he is off on a lecture tour of the USA
almost immediately.
However, if they should be available, he would be very interested in copies
of the Orchid review for 1917-1920 if they are available.

I copy you his email, belowl. There would be no complication with Steve; he
is thoroughly reliable but, unfortunately will be out of the UK for a few
weeks and so any good news about the possibility of Orchid Review would be
handled through me on his behalf.

Steve's email
"Hello John
Thanks for the phone call and for the list − as you can see, it was safely
received.
On checking through, I find that I already have all of the spiral bound
books on Peru, except that a long time ago, I merged them, rebinding them by
Genus as they overlapped to quite a degree.
So there is nothing I require.
If you are contacting them at all, I am interested in buying The Orchid
Review for the years 1917 & 1920 − either bound or unbound.
Lecture in Bournemouth tomorrow, then to Santa Barbara on Tuesday. As soon
as we get back there is the Stoke lecture − no rest for the wicked!
Steve".
Cheers for now Tricia and thanks for posting the list and, presumably acting
as a go-between.
John

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From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Slugit
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:20

Thankyou Geoff. It shows how long ago I bought my cache of slugit.
Having been told it is now Slug Clear I have found it on Amazon. (if anyone else is looking be careful of some postage charges.
Also thanks to all that replied.
Regards

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From: tony garthwaite
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: slug killer
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:50

I think this is what John Stanley was talking about!!!

He / she has a friend named Mr. Toad!

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From: Sheila Bicknell
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] me
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:15

Geoff, I didn't get to Peterborough this year and would love to see your
photos, and hear your comments on the Show.
Regards, Sheila

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: 2 orchids in flower today
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:25

Cattleya walkeriana 'Limerick' AM/AOS has a green flush visible here and
there − presumably the basis of Limerick !. A lovely small cattleya that
the pic does not do justice to. Needs to be a multi-growth plant with lots
of flowers, then would be the sort of show-stopper that Den cuthbertsonii
is. But my plant is a seedling flowering for the first time.

Aspasia silvana. The usual Aspasia , the only one I have ever seen before is
A.lunata. IOSPE says this one is three times as large. Well, not quite,
maybe twice as large. A first flowering on a plant I have had for three
years now , and the flower emerges from an incomplete growth. Which I think
is not quite as it should be − so it may be hail and farewell ! We'll see.

Geoff

Ps I used to manage a white strip at the bottom to put the details on -
using Photoshop. However with a new computer I had so many problems trying
to instal that programme that I discarded it in disgust and bought Photoshop
Elements − and I haven't found how to do that in this programme.

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] me
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:25

I didn t go to Peterborough this year although Norma bought me a Phalaenopsis sanderiana. We went last year but the traffic coming home was horrendous.
David

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From: john Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] slug killer
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:15

Hi Tony,
I think your picture says it all!
Thanks very much, Does s/he keep your molluscs at bay?

Interesting that you also mention Mr Toad; clearly you also have academic
qualifications on a par withTricia's degree in
telepathy, In that I am known by my wife as 'Mr Toad' after my alleged
habit of having crazes like Toad of Toad Hall did. Of course, I don't know
what she means. I also get accused of 'playing wire' like when I stretch an
HDMI cable across the room to display orchid images on the HDTV or dismantle
some piece of electronic kit..

What we all suffer in the interests of our or our spouse's orchids eh?

Back to amphibians; I have to say that I would far rather such biological
control than Slugit pellets.

John

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From: Tony Watkinson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] me
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 01:05

I didn't manage to get to Peterborough either. It's a long walk and I am
allergic to getting my feet wet. I am told that Gary Firth had Best in Show
with a Brassia.

Would we like to see the pix?

Silly question.

Tony

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From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: We
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:10

Many of us seem to being forced to admit to getting old.
Two mantras keep me going -
1. Growing old is not for cissies.
2. Old age and treachery will always beat youth and enthusiasm.
Regards

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From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] 2 orchids in flower today
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:10

Lovey Walkeriana ,Geoff. Aspasia sp. takes me back. Aspasia lunata was the first orchid I flowered from seed. Took 3 years from sowing the seed. Being a Chemist I found growing from seed very interesting.

I first started in a large polythene bag ,swabbed inside with 10% Bleach. After a while I got a good technique and had very few going mouldy. I then built a glove box and this worked great.

I grew Pleiones and Disas from growing on fine sterile bark mix, but some did grow to mature plants but I have a lot of deaths.
I used to buy Disa seed from South Africa but when the envelope went through the franking machine it squashed most of the seeds! Disa seeds are very big, relative to others.

Peter F., Alton

Geoff Hands wrote re: [OrchidTalk] 2 orchids in flower today

Cattleya walkeriana Limerick AM/AOS has a green flush visible here and there − presumably the basis of Limerick !. A lovely small cattleya that the pic does not do justice to. Needs to be a multi-growth plant with lots of flowers, then would be the sort of show-stopper that Den cuthbertsonii is. But my plant is a seedling flowering for the first time.

Aspasia silvana. The usual Aspasia , the only one I have ever seen before is A.lunata. IOSPE says this one is three times as large. Well, not quite, maybe twice as large. A first flowering on a plant I have had for three years now , and the flower emerges from an incomplete growth. Which I think is not quite as it should be − so it may be hail and farewell ! We ll see.

Geoff

Ps I used to manage a white strip at the bottom to put the details on using Photoshop. However with a new computer I had so many problems trying to instal that programme that I discarded it in disgust and bought Photoshop Elements and I haven t found how to do that in this programme.

From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Peterborough Orchid Show in piuctures ; part 1.
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:15

1. General view of the stand of Darlington Society − I like the
railway theme. Difficult to see any connection with orchids, though !

2. A plant on that stand Very large flowers for a mazzie !

3. Pogonias − seem to be getting very popular ; I find it difficult to
pay the price asked for a spike of flowers no better than I would get on a
bulb of say a Muscari species − at 1/20th the price, just because it's an
orchid . I guess I'm a bit hide-bound, blame my age.

4. I am in love with Nellie Isler − ever since I first saw her.

5. Grand champion species − it is indeed Gary Firths Brassia ,
somewhere inside that mass of flowers is a moss pole. ( Gary told me all
about it and how to do it some years ago ; I am copying − the sincerest form
of flattery − but whilst I have a great spike − will show when all the
flowers are out − it's still only single growth.)

Geoff

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: OOPs
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:15

Sorry − comments on the last two of the first seven pics I posted of
Peterborough Show.

6. A close up of the flowers of the Brassia ( pic 5)

7. Some of the many Disas which dazzled me.

Geoff

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Peterborough − 2nd tranche
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:35

8. a BC hybrid which caught my eye Bc.- Ria Meyer

9. just "wow"

10., Another Society stand

11. Grand champion hybrid − a Thunia − grown by Alan Sapsard − on the
Bournemouth stand. Fortunately that should be going over so it won't be on
the competitive plant table tonight !

12. Dend devonianum also on the Bournemouth stand.

13 Another part of BOS stand − the Mtps are mine, one got an AM ( Ernest
Fisher − front right)

14. One of the Stanhopeas on the stand of the guy who has the National
Collection. I am always amazed that he can show so many plants in flower
when they only last a few days. The answer it seem is that he has about 500
plants, and they mostly flower six or more times a year . So one plant may
have six spikes, ( they are all big plants ) but not six out at once. I
find this with my Gongoras too − same group, I think .

Geoff

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Peterborough 3rd part
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:40

15 shows Phil Cribb , grey-haired near the camera.

16.Paphs for sale on the In-Charm stand ( I think) priced at up to £300 each
, many sold including ones at that price. Not bought by me !

17.- 18 two of the same

19-20 a couple of Cattleyas on another Taiwan stand , I think colchicine
treated ? Extra large, extra bright, flowers. Do they repeat thus ?No-one
seems to know.

21. Paphs for sale . The only one which tempted me was a vini Callosum at
£40 for a single growth, and I wasn't sufficiently sure to buy ; regret it
now !

geoff

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Peterboro' the fourth ( sounds like a Russian Tsar ! )
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:45

22-23 Chantelle ( I think)

24-28 Robert Fuchs Vandas − cut flowers. He wasn't selling, nor advertising
. Can't think how he can justify spending the cost of sending them, or
attending if he brought them, in those circumstances ; a most unusual
businessman, especially by Yankee standards !

Geoff

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Peterborough in the ffth part.
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:50

29 -30 more plants on Fuchs stand. That dendrobe is the most delicate and
lovely colour , in the mass it reminds me of the National Sweet Pea Show I
also attended very recently ( but without the scent).

31-33 self explanatory.

34 Bournemouth stand again ( it is my own Society, after all ! ) with a
renbanthera in the background for which I also got an AM.

35 A nice catt; maybe fertilised to cause that lip colour ?

Geoff

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Peterboro' 6
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:55

Well maybe everything here needs no explanation ; if wanted, let me know.
It's time to get my entries ready for the plant table tonight and if time
I'll get the Box Brownie out and send you the results. ( I wonder how old
you have to be to understand that ? )

geoff

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Three of my own plants.
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:00

These are there of the four I am taking to my Society tonight ; I'm allowed
two plants in the competitive table show. Usually single spiked plants don't
do well − there is a high standard , but these are the best I have, and
after all they are quite good spikes − even the Paph has an 11 inch span
flower which is pretty good going for St Swithin.

The Colmanara, aka Odontocidium, maybe now an Oncidium ( Bobcat) is grown
in my Aquaculture − hydroponics system which it obviously likes. Maybe I can
get two spikes next time − these things often do that, although perhaps not
if well-branched like this one.

The Renanthera species was well-0pregarded at Peterborough getting an AM.

geoff

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From: john Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] 2 orchids in flower today
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:50

Geoff,
If those two photos aren t justification for your continuing to make offerings to OT, then I don t know what would be.
Please keep on.

Re-Photoshop and P-elements; This seems to be the industry standard but there are several professionals I ve met who admit to using Paint Shop Pro (formerly by JASC and now continued by Corel). It s OK.

Thanks for posting
John

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: 2 orchids in flower today
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:40

Geoff, this works in Elements 6. Your version is probably 9, but
unless something radical has changed I can't think why it shouldn't
still work.

Open your image in Elements. Click on Image / Resize / Canvas size,
click on the up arrow symbol, then add adjust the number in the
height field. Finally, pick a colour (at the bottom of the dialog
box), this colour will be what the area below your image will be. I
had to experiment a bit to get the new area below the image − I
clicked on the down arrow first, thinking that would be logical but
that put the new area at the top!

On 23 June Geoff Hands wrote:

[snip]

> Ps I used to manage a white strip at the bottom to put the details
> on − using Photoshop. However with a new computer I had so many
> problems trying to instal that programme that I discarded it in
> disgust and bought Photoshop Elements − and I haven't found how to
> do that in this programme.

--

Tricia

Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.

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From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] 2 orchids in flower today
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 23:00

Getting an error sign when I try to see Geoff's pics.
Peter F.

Tricia Garner wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] 2 orchids in flower today

Geoff, this works in Elements 6. Your version is probably 9, but
unless something radical has changed I can't think why it shouldn't
still work.

Open your image in Elements. Click on Image / Resize / Canvas size,
click on the up arrow symbol, then add adjust the number in the
height field. Finally, pick a colour (at the bottom of the dialog
box), this colour will be what the area below your image will be. I
had to experiment a bit to get the new area below the image − I
clicked on the down arrow first, thinking that would be logical but
that put the new area at the top!

Tricia

Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.

On 23 June Geoff Hands wrote:

[snip]

> Ps I used to manage a white strip at the bottom to put the details
> on − using Photoshop. However with a new computer I had so many
> problems trying to instal that programme that I discarded it in
> disgust and bought Photoshop Elements − and I haven't found how to
> do that in this programme.

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From: john Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Peterboro' 6 (and Brownies if not dib dib dib)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 23:05

Well Geoff,
(Old enough not to confuse a film camera with kind of Brownies you weren t allowed to join, young enough not to have forgotten that transmission of black and white prints gives boring and old enough to have forgotten when spam, viruses and phishing first first manifested themselves.)
What s your camera these days? And did you ever sort out a realistic blue that we talked about a blue Moon or so ago?
Good to see you re active in an obvious way again. Thanks.
John

Geoff Hands wrote re: [OrchidTalk] Peterboro' 6

Well maybe everything here needs no explanation ; if wanted, let me know. It s time to get my entries ready for the plant table tonight and if time I ll get the Box Brownie out and send you the results. ( I wonder how old you have to be to understand that ? )

geoff

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] 2 orchids in flower today
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 05:35

Thanks Tricia − this is, as you say, just the same as in Photoshop. I'll go
back to my numbering system from where I left off, in future.

geoff

Tricia Garner wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] 2 orchids in flower today

Geoff, this works in Elements 6. Your version is probably 9, but unless
something radical has changed I can't think why it shouldn't still work.

Open your image in Elements. Click on Image / Resize / Canvas size, click
on the up arrow symbol, then add adjust the number in the height field.
Finally, pick a colour (at the bottom of the dialog box), this colour will
be what the area below your image will be. I had to experiment a bit to get
the new area below the image − I clicked on the down arrow first, thinking
that would be logical but that put the new area at the top!

Tricia

Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: name this orchid ?
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 05:45

I bought a plant from Jack Wubben , asked him the name, and he looked it up
on a list of plants he had brought with him, and announced , Miltonidium
Breathless ’Florence'.

There is no such plant in the Register. There is a Miltoniopsis Breathless
’Florence' ( white, with a black mask , I'd love to add it to my
collection). This is certainly not it , may not even be a Miltonidium. The
plant has quite large bulbs , the flowering bulb is at least four inches
high, two spikes both 3 or 4 feet, with a lot of branches , flowers vary
from 2 to 2 ½ inch high. He had maybe a dozen plants , identical flowers,
so a meristem.

But what ? Any suggestions welcomed.

geoff

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From: tony garthwaite
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [?? Probable Spam] Re: [OrchidTalk] slug killer
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 07:30

John,

I have to say that I suspect that the toad did an excellent job
keeping the slug population low over the past year. As I'm replacing
my old greenhouse, I've had to give the toad the freedom of my
garden. I'll return him to the orchids when the new 'house' is
completed......if I can find him again!

On another thread......Geoff's photos are quite stunning.....I
wonder which camera he is using because I think the quality is far
better than those I took of the same plants.

Tony

john Stanley wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] slug killer

Hi Tony,
I think your picture says it all!
Thanks very much, Does s/he keep your molluscs at bay?

Interesting that you also mention Mr Toad; clearly you also have
academic qualifications on a par with Tricia's degree in telepathy,
In that I am known by my wife as 'Mr Toad' after my alleged habit of
having crazes like Toad of Toad Hall did. Of course, I don't know
what she means. I also get accused of 'playing wire' like when I
stretch an HDMI cable across the room to display orchid images on
the HDTV or dismantle some piece of electronic kit..

What we all suffer in the interests of our or our spouse's orchids eh?

Back to amphibians; I have to say that I would far rather such
biological control than Slugit pellets.

John

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] me
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:25

Hello Norma ,
Having received the pictures I can t open them. Can you? It wants to use Adobe reader but it doesn t work.
David

Norma Burgess wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] me

I went but would like to see your pictures as they are so much better than I could do.

Norma

Geoff Hands wrote RE: [OrchidTalk] me

Hands up all those who didn't go to Peterborough − I have a set of 40 odd
that I made for another purpose ?

Geoff

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From: john Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] slug killer
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:30

Tony,

Nice to have confirmed my suspicion that a frog/toad in your greenhouse
keeps slugs (and snails?) at bay. It may be worth looking up toad habits; I
believe they find a home and, when possible, use it for many years and so
may resent a forced house move..
I have to say that I am anxious about the frequency and variety of products
designed to kill anything. Killing based on ignorant prejudice is clearly
big business. I notice now, that even a product boasting to kill all insect
larvae in the lawn is on sale (may as well get Astroturf!), there are ant
killers, fly killers, anonymous 'bug' killers, caterpillar killers, wasp
killers (why?) and so on and few well vacuumed and dusted gardens are now
large enough for a compost heap and so no grass snakes, slow worms etc etc..
We even have enterprising individuals knocking on our door offering to kill
our wasps' nests! And then we all wonder where the bees have gone.
We have a problem with ants undermining the greenhouse floor but we are
reluctant to use toxins − any suggestions for a 'mechanical solution for
that before we have an orchid-house basement? !

The other thread: I, too have asked Geoff about his photo kit; I know that
photographer's skill is the major part but, clearly, he doesn't use a Kodak
Box Brownie any more. There is no doubt that in the last decade the newer
generation of DSLRs has advanced far but, of course, more importantly, so
have their lenses. Image stabilisation allows us to take shots at a show in
poor light where a tripod and flash (Ugh!) are antisocial . Geoff'll no
doubt let us all in on his secret. I simply wish that display presenters
would bear photography in mind and that a plain uncluttered background is a
delight to camera wielders! On the other hand, sellers would rather we
acquire the plant and not just a free image!

Cheers
John

tony garthwaite wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] slug killer

John,

I have to say that I suspect that the toad did an excellent job keeping the
slug population low over the past year. As I'm replacing my old greenhouse,
I've had to give the toad the freedom of my garden. I'll return him to the
orchids when the new 'house' is completed......if I can find him again!

On another thread......Geoff's photos are quite stunning.....I wonder which
camera he is using because I think the quality is far better than those I
took of the same plants.

Tony

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From: john Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] 2 orchids in flower today
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:30

Geoff,
While not wanting to impose a photo-conversation on one and all it occurs to me that your white strip of info on the bottom of a photo should be simply another layer. I d do that in Paintshop Pro either with a deliberate added (mainly transparent) layer or adding white or yellow or black lettering (as appro). I agree that PSP by Corel follows the usual rule of finding new ways to confuse. My favourite (mainly non-orchid) facility is edge-preserving smooth which has been moved from effects to adjust .
Grrrrr! If it ain t broke don t fix it eh? I find also that Windows 7 is far too clever by half in telling me what I need to do and hiding from me the things I d like to instruct it to do! I also have the problem of a lack of confidence to write anything on a .jpg!
cheers
John

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From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] slug killer
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:35

John,
My wife having similar views to you regarding the killing of insects used
peppermint plants on the floor of the greenhouse which she believed caused the
ants "to vacate the premises". Seemingly with water draining through the pots
the ants didn't like the peppermint taste/aroma.
Hope this helps.
Gordon.

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Peterboro' 6 (and Brownies if not dib dib dib)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:10

Will you believe it ? I have a camera now which will take digital images and process them so as to look how a film image would look if the cassette says Provia , Velvia or Astia .

I remember that I had to use Velvia for landscapes ( the judges liked it) can t remember what the others were. So I do a RAW image and play with it. No I can t get true blues I m waiting for the next great leap forward or was that Chairman Mao ?

They do say that it s a great life if you don t weaken . But what do I do id I have weakened ? I can t do more than a hundred press-ups at the gym these days I think I m off subject , probably off my rocker too.

Have you thought of going to Budapest for EOC ? I have mixed feelings about the trip that our mutual friend Steve Manning is associated with ( Great Railway Journeys organises, I think ) I don t know whether he proposed it, or simply strews my path with leaflets about it . I want to go to Budapest for the EOC , don t want three days on the train, each way, even if there is a whole rest day in Prague/Vienna and don t want to have to lift our suitcases ( my wife can lift a whole 3 lb if given time, and a rest afterwards ) on and off so many trains so I think of going by air OSGB have an air- trip we might join ; but if a lot of orchid friends are on the train it might be a lot of fun.

I hope everyone peeks in on this public correspondence and chips in with views ? ( I am going to copy this to Steve and anyone who wants info might shout up I won t publish his e-mail address here , but will pass on requests ! )

Geoff

john Stanley wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Peterboro' 6 (and Brownies if not dib dib dib)

Well Geoff,

(Old enough not to confuse a film camera with kind of Brownies you weren t allowed to join, young enough not to have forgotten that transmission of black and white prints gives boring and old enough to have forgotten when spam, viruses and phishing first first manifested themselves.)

What s your camera these days? And did you ever sort out a realistic blue that we talked about a blue Moon or so ago?

Good to see you re active in an obvious way again. Thanks.

John

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] slug killer
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:20

I was using a superzoom (Fuji Finepix S200 EXR) . Now remaindered , and
hence not very expensive − also weighs about 1/5th what my Nikon and a
couple of lenses weigh.

Geoff

Quote...

Geoff's photos are quite stunning.....I wonder which camera he is using
because I think the quality is far better than those I took of the same
plants.

Tony

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] slug killer
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:30

john Stanley wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] slug killer

> Tony,
> (may as well get Astroturf,)

btw − I did , or actually a similar product from a Dutch Company ; cost
the earth, but after getting rid of my two mowers, strimmer and scarifier I
have got my shed back ;and the lawn looks good all the year . I save
literally hundreds of pounds on my water bill ( obviously I don't live in
Scotland, or I'd be talking about using rice as a lawn), and save on mower
overhauls and replacements, plus a hundred or so on Green Thumb regular
lawn maintenance, and I save hours and hours every week with no mowing, etc
etc...I recommend it. Naff ? No − intelligent, I reckon.

> The other thread: I, too have asked Geoff about his photo kit;

Sorry John, I missed that. Still using the Nikon digital with some sort of
flash for close ups ( an ancient Micro-Nikkor f2.8 lens- but often used at
f40 ) ,in the studio ( aka , a chair in the hall.) but away from home the
Fuji superzoom − 30-420 mentioned in another message.
Geoff

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Ants (was: slug killer)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:40

I have been seeing ants in the greenhouse a lot this year and thinking that
the nests are probably underneath the paving slabs outside thought that
there was little I could do − after all they are an essential in the garden!

But when I found that they had created a nest in a large pot containing my
big dendrobium fimbriatum ( five feet high − had 42 spikes − but I
couldn't take it to a Society meeting − I don't own a van ) and not being
squeamish and also believing that saving the world is your job, not mine, I
mixed up a bucket of Provado and dunked the pot for 30 minutes.

I seem to have a n ant-free greenhouse − I wonder why?

geoff

Gordon Walker wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Ants (was: slug killer)

John,

My wife having similar views to you regarding the killing of insects used
peppermint plants on the floor of the greenhouse which she believed caused
the ants "to vacate the premises". Seemingly with water draining through the
pots the ants didn't like the peppermint taste/aroma.

Hope this helps.

Gordon.

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From: Richard Baxter
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Peterboro' 6 (and Brownies if not dib dib dib)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:20

I have had the Steve Manning stuff too. While I don't mind flying, I do find the whole experience of being herded around and hours of waiting most disagreeable. Steve's idea seemed an interesting alternative. However, I looked up some hotels on his original itinerary via the internet and the phrase "very budget" summed them up for me. Steve has asked for another price of the next level up so time will tell the final package mix. Shall review available funds when decision time arrives.

As for cameras, my main one is a Leica V-Lux1 which (for me at least) is so flexible with one of their fixed lens (35 − 420mm) and outstanding quality results − content of the images leaves plenty of room for improvement, but the technical quality is always superb. The whole instrument is so flexible. In fact, back in the Spring I undertook a 12 week course with a local professional photographer and I must say that I probably learned more about what I could get out of my camera than hard technique. I also use a smaller Olympus C-765. I only migrated from film 4 years ago after enjoying a group holiday with some Americans where I was the only person with film (another Leica) which they all considered to be a very strange medium. Until recently I have been processing through Photoshop elements, but have just progressed to CS5. All useful brain challenging for the dark winter evenings.

Richard

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Peterboro' 6 (and Brownies if not dib dib dib)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:50

Indeed, but only when it's cloudy or raining − otherwise we should
all be out with our telescopes, observing the night sky. Just as I
always intend to be (but don't often make it!).

On 26 June Richard Baxter wrote:
> ...Until recently I have been processing through
> Photoshop elements, but have just progressed to CS5. All useful
> brain challenging for the dark winter evenings.

--

Tricia

How is it one careless match can start a forest fire, but it takes a whole box to start a campfire?

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From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Peterborough Orchid Show in piuctures ; part 1.
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 08:45

Hi Geoff,

The Pogonias you're talking about, I'm guessing are the picture of Ponerorchis graminifolia, right?

Have you tried looking at Thompson&Morgans? They are relatively cheap, and although they are pot luck on what you get (it is extremely variable) some of them are rather appealing.

Regards,

Francis

Geoff Hands wrote re: [OrchidTalk] Peterborough Orchid Show in pictures ; part 1.

...3. Pogonias seem to be getting very popular ; I find it difficult to pay the price asked for a spike of flowers no better than I would get on a bulb of say a Muscari species at 1/20th the price, just because it s an orchid . I guess I m a bit hide-bound, blame my age.

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From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Peterborough Orchid Show in piuctures ; part 1.
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:20

Hi,
I bought six from them and they all flowered.
Unfortunately all the same colour.
Gordon.

francis quesada pallares wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Peterborough Orchid Show in piuctures ; part 1.

Hi Geoff,

The Pogonias you're talking about, I'm guessing are the picture of Ponerorchis
graminifolia, right?

Have you tried looking at Thompson&Morgans? They are relatively cheap, and
although they are pot luck on what you get (it is extremely variable) some of
them are rather appealing.

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Peterborough Orchid Show in piuctures ; part 1.
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:35

Thanks was that an elderly moment on my part, or is that (Pogonia) an alternative name , to others apart from myself I wonder ? Although searching my memory I believe I have heard them referred to by that name, so maybe mea culpa is not warranted here.

Oh I stopped to look them up in IOSPE there is a Pogonia genus Japanese terrestrial orchids ; also Ponerorchis the ones I looked at there (Jay s site ) don t resemble the ones I see in shows, so now I am quite confused. I ll have a look at T & M , although I suspect my conditions are quite wrong for them.

Geoff

francis quesada pallares wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Peterborough Orchid Show in piuctures ; part 1.

Hi Geoff,

The Pogonias you're talking about, I'm guessing are the picture of Ponerorchis graminifolia, right?

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From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Peterborough Orchid Show in piuctures ; part 1.
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:40

Hi Gordon,

I also bought six from them. 3 flowered very well, and the other 3 budded but didn't fully open (maybe not enough humidity?). They all looked different and very nice, I must fish the pics once the computer at home is working and show them in here.

Regards,

Francis

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From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Peterborough Orchid Show in piuctures ; part 1.
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:45

Hi Geoff,

Yes there are both Pogonias and Ponerorchis. I have always known the ones in your picture as Ponerorchis graminifolia, which is a very, very variable species in both size of flowers, colours and shapes. Just google Ponerorchis graminifolia culture, and there is an excellent article written by Paul Cumberton showing them and great pictures to show some of the variation.

In Japan they are very popular, and there are different names to describe the shape, colour and size, but it all goes beyond me and my capabilities. I am just happy that my 6 plants are all healthy and growing well, and hopefully will reproduce by splitting up at the tuber in good time.

Regards,

Francis

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Flower pictures
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:55

Cirrhopetalum roxburghii . I use the genera name Cirrhopetalum for all the
Bulbophyllums which produce a daisy like ring of flowers. I don't know if
this is correct, but this is one area ( among many ?) where the contortions
of the taxonomists, merging and splitting genera seems particularly
irritating. So if you want to call it a Bulbo − that's OK by me, but don't
call me to tell me.

This is in a plant saucer maybe 9 inch diameter ,and when I took the pics
yesterday there were 13 spikes visible ; this morning that has gone up to
15. Not many out yet, and as they last perhaps 10 days, there could be
upwards of 10 spikes out at the same time in a few days time.

No good showing this plant of course , if I put it on the Bournemouth O.S.
competitive table it will not get a mention − none of my small-flowered
things ever do, however good I think they are. As to "small" − each daisy
wheel is about the size of a 5 pence coin.

Geoff

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From: Richard Baxter
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Flower pictures
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:30

How do you grow roxburghii, Geoff?
I have one suspended towards the roof of my intermediate greenhouse − Min 15c but it does not flower.
Richard

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From: tony garthwaite
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Emailing: 2 from Peterborough
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:45

Here are two from Peterborough.......

You understand that these are simply "Wishful thinking" on my part. £90 is
a touch too expensive!!

Camera is an Olympus E300 but my wife says it is too heavy carrying it
around the shows!!! Served me well for 6 years though. (The camera.....not
the wife!)

Tony G.

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Flower pictures
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 03:00

It is in a smallish size of fir bark, and like yours, hanging up in the
greenhouse , in a line which includes some dendrobes, some aerides, asctms,
neofinetias etc etc. These plants are all being sprayed almost every day
with a very weak solution ( I refill the spray tank , a small dustbin − with
rain water and occasionally pour a watering can of my standard
nutrient/water mix into that bin ).

For spraying. I have a pump , about ½ HP as I remember which feeds two
separate hoses, with a lance on each , this is a matter of convenience,
saves me hauling the hose pipe from one side of the greenhouse to the other,
since I have two paths , as my greenhouse is 15 ft wide. . The hose is
3/4inch bore , and this gives me a good powerful fine spray, with no trouble
, apart from periodically cleaning the filters in the lances when some muck
gets into the tanks..

In addition , like all my orchids, it gets taken down and dunked in a bucket
of the standard mix every week or two. It does not seem to be fussy !.


Geoff

Richard Baxter wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Flower pictures

How do you grow roxburghii, Geoff?

I have one suspended towards the roof of my intermediate greenhouse − Min
15c but it does not flower.

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Emailing: 2 from Peterborough
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 03:05

I'm sorry to hear you complaining about your wife Tony ... (joke).

Yes − two figures that high turns me off, never mind the three figures on
some of those paphs. And I noted that it was the more expensive ones which
had sold ! There is obviously still a lot of money about somewhere ,
although not in my back yard.

Geoff

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From: Richard Baxter
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Flower pictures
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:50

Much the same regime as mine, Geoff. Perhaps I need to be more patient!
Richard

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: A baker's dozen
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:40

In my walking club the chairman, if not on a walk, always rings up the
leader afterwards to enquire how many turned out for the walk ; I know she
is very superstitious, so if there are 13 present, I always say "A baker's
dozen" and I had that in my mind when I counted up what I collected
together.

The pic shows my large flowered vandas in flower at the moment ( including
three Renanthera species); I've been meaning to put them together for some
time, to take a front page or title shot for a talk I'm putting together for
my Orchid Society , but always waiting for everything to be at its best ,
which of course never happens − the large yellow has gone off too far to
include, and the best whites are only in bud , and blues are also non season
it seems ; otherwise there might have been a better colour range. At least
seven of these Vandas were re-potted in March , and maybe the flower count
is a bit down for that reason ; there is only one 10 here , apart from a
double spiked plant with a 6 and a 7 ( but the seven is all buds ) but then
I reckon 10 is good , even exceptionally good, for this country.

Names ; the Rens', storei to the left and right. philipinensis in the
middle.
Vandas, back row Ascda Haad Ravi x Lena Golba, Kultana Delight 'Red' (double
spiked), Kultana's Ruby 'French Knickers'. Susan Delight.
Front row ; Chindavit x Tawasuka , Ascda Chiangmai Gold, Orglades Gold Spot
x (Fuchs Gold x Bangkhuntien Gold) , Robert Delight 'Kultana's dark red',
Fuchs Delight, and sanderiana.

geoff

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: a couple more
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:00

This is really what a shrink would call displacement activity ; whilst I am
here in front of my PC I don't have to be out on my knees doing some
weeding.

So, Ceratostylis rubra , from the Phillipines. bought as an NBS seedling
three years ago, does better every year. A cheerful chap I love to look at
every time I enter the greenhouse.

Aerides , bought as houlletianum, is probably falcata.

geoff.

But my conscience calls . I'll go and make a start, maybe I'll get lucky and
it will rain.

geoff

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Flower pictures
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:30

Geoff, what brand is the plant saucer/pan in which you are growing
it? I see you are able to use the plastic hanger with it, which is a
boon.

On 29 June Geoff Hands wrote:

> It is in a smallish size of fir bark, and like yours, hanging up
> in the greenhouse " in a line which includes some dendrobes, some
> aerides, asctms, neofinetias etc etc. These plants are all being
> sprayed almost every day with a very weak solution ( I refill the
> spray tank " a small dustbin − with rain water and occasionally
> pour a watering can of my standard nutrient/water mix into that bin
> ).

[snip]

Richard Baxter wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Flower pictures

> How do you grow roxburghii, Geoff?

--

Tricia

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.

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From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] a couple more
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:55

Hi Geoff,

Any advice on Ceratostylis? I bought one a couple of years ago at the London Show and it has never done anything at all, not even grow... It is now all but dead, with only one growth left, despite having had a few compost changes to see if it would come back to life.

Regards,

Francis

Geoff Hands wrote re: [OrchidTalk] a couple more

This is really what a shrink would call displacement activity ; whilst I am here in front of my PC I don t have to be out on my knees doing some weeding

So, Ceratostylis rubra , from the Phillipines. bought as an NBS seedling three years ago, does better every year. A cheerful chap I love to look at every time I enter the greenhouse.
Aerides , bought as houlletianum, is probably falcata.

geoff.

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Flower pictures
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:30

I find that it is Sankey − designed of course to go under a large pot, but
provides plenty of roots space for a good many small orchids. I drill hole
in the bottom for drainage , obviously.

Geoff

Tricia Garner wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Flower pictures

Geoff, what brand is the plant saucer/pan in which you are growing it? I see
you are able to use the plastic hanger with it, which is a boon.

Tricia

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Latest pictures
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 18:30

Here are a few pictures taken today. Phal sanderiana, Dendrobium loddigesii, Phal lindenii, Schoenorchis fragrans. Not sure which order they will come out in.
David

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Flower pictures
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:30

Thanks, Geoff. I will look out for them.

--

Tricia

He who laughs last, thinks slowest.

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From: Alex
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Peterborough Orchid Show in piuctures ; part 1.
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:35

I got a pack from T&M , three have flowered but very small and only 4
flowers on a stem. Must try harder. However − Francis − you may remember
discussing my thunia from the raffle table last year. The dried up single
spike has 2 leafy ones now each with a nice fat bud on, only twenty inches
tall though which seems quite short for thunias.
Regards, Alex

> Hi Gordon,
> Â
> I also bought six from them. 3 flowered very well, and the other 3 budded
> but didn't fully open (maybe not enough humidity?). They all looked
> different and very nice, I must fish the pics once the computer at home is
> working and show them in here.
> Â
> Regards,
> Â
> Francis

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] a couple more
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 08:25

1.I think my growing conditions are vastly different from yours Francis ! Mine is in smallish bark, in the same temperatures as my cattleyas and oncidiums for example, in fact in the same house, except above them ; it hangs up , as I so often say, along with my Vandas, Aerides, Bulbos, etc etc so gets more light than the paphs, oncids and catts which are down on the bench. I spray all the hanging orchids almost daily in the summer months, less often in the winter . Even twice daily in hot weather , and that spray is rain water, my pump draws from a 7 gallon bin, and occasionally − almost but not every time I fill it up I add a canful ( 2 gallon) from the main water/nutrient tank ( 600EC 6.5pH ) − so they get fed very weakly at every spraying, but taken down and dunked in the main nutrient/water tank every 10 days or so.
geoff

francis quesada pallares wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] a couple more

Hi Geoff,

Any advice on Ceratostylis? I bought one a couple of years ago at the London Show and it has never done anything at all, not even grow... It is now all but dead, with only one growth left, despite having had a few compost changes to see if it would come back to life.

Regards,

Francis

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From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Latest pictures
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:05

I always enjoy looking at your phal species ; plants I don t grow at all.

As to your Schoenorchis, I have bought them several times and lost them ; the last I have had for a year or more and still have it, but no sign of flowers. It is very small compared to yours, and doesn t seem to grow very much . Maybe I am just not warm enough. I d like to know your conditions for this one ?

Geoff

David Martin wrote re: [OrchidTalk] Latest pictures

Here are a few pictures taken today. Phal sanderiana, Dendrobium loddigesii, Phal lindenii, Schoenorchis fragrans. Not sure which order they will come out in.

David

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From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Latest pictures
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:30

Hi David

Nice pics and plants. I really like the P lindenii − will you put up a pic of the whole plant if possible; the leaves look really interesting too. How big are those flowers?

The Phals I had from you are doing fine and I am hoping for flowers soon. I have been getting more interested in this group for a while − especially the little ones (a matter of space). Here is a pic of my P parishii which I took today.

Coincidentally the Dendrobium picture you posted is D parishii and not D loddigesii

Andy

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From: Theo Dengel
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Thesaurus Dracularum
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:35

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This disposal is in addition to the list of orchid books for sale recently circulated to members,
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Theo Dengel

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Latest pictures
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:40

I grow it in the Phal house, Min 20deg C brightest part near the roof. Very careful with the water and only spray the roots growing away from the plant. If any water gets in between the very close leaves I blow it away.
By the way the Dendrobium is parishii. Brainstorm!!

David

Geoff Hands wrote RE: [OrchidTalk] Latest pictures

I always enjoy looking at your phal species ; plants I don t grow at all.

As to your Schoenorchis, I have bought them several times and lost them ; the last I have had for a year or more and still have it, but no sign of flowers. It is very small compared to yours, and doesn t seem to grow very much . Maybe I am just not warm enough. I d like to know your conditions for this one ?

Geoff

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From: Richard Baxter
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Latest pictures
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:50

I must be the only person in the entire universe who cannot grow and
flower Phalaenopsis.
I have tried time and again, but they just die − even the pumped up
supermarket hybrids. I have tried them in the house and in my
intermediate greenhouse, all with the same effect.
Not to be daunted, I am joining the IPA trip to Holland next week to
see if I can learn where I am going wrong.
Richard

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From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] 2 orchids in flower today
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:50

Hi Geoff

I am very impressed with the C walkeriana. I have grown the usual colour form for years and it has never flowered. Every year I think it will do it but the flower shoot rots off as it starts to develop. It's on a mount now and has been for several years having previously been in a bark mix. Any tips?

Nice Aspasia silvana − I have A lunata out at the moment. I also have A psittacina which looks like it's revving up to flower.

Andy

Geoff Hands wrote re: [OrchidTalk] 2 orchids in flower today

Cattleya walkeriana 'Limerick' AM/AOS has a green flush visible here and there − presumably the basis of Limerick !. A lovely small cattleya that the pic does not do justice to. Needs to be a multi-growth plant with lots of flowers, then would be the sort of show-stopper that Den cuthbertsonii is. But my plant is a seedling flowering for the first time.

Aspasia silvana. The usual Aspasia , the only one I have ever seen before is A.lunata. IOSPE says this one is three times as large. Well, not quite, maybe twice as large. A first flowering on a plant I have had for three years now , and the flower emerges from an incomplete growth. Which I think is not quite as it should be − so it may be hail and farewell ! We'll see.

Geoff

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From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Flower pictures
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:05

When I first looked at your pic I thought it was C sikkimense which I grow. They are very alike and the books say they are often confused.

I say keep taking the little one to the table. Eventually people tune in to them. I got the best in show for a mini last year ( a pleuro) at Devon.

Andy

Geoff Hands wrote re: [OrchidTalk] Flower pictures

Cirrhopetalum roxburghii . I use the genera name Cirrhopetalum for all the Bulbophyllums which produce a daisy like ring of flowers. I don't know if this is correct, but this is one area ( among many ?) where the contortions of the taxonomists, merging and splitting genera seems particularly irritating. So if you want to call it a Bulbo − that's OK by me, but don't call me to tell me.

This is in a plant saucer maybe 9 inch diameter ,and when I took the pics yesterday there were 13 spikes visible ; this morning that has gone up to 15. Not many out yet, and as they last perhaps 10 days, there could be upwards of 10 spikes out at the same time in a few days time.

No good showing this plant of course , if I put it on the Bournemouth O.S. competitive table it will not get a mention − none of my small-flowered things ever do, however good I think they are. As to "small" − each daisy wheel is about the size of a 5 pence coin.

Geoff

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Phal lindenii
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:15

Hello Andy,
Here’s the pictures you asked for. The flowers are about 1&1/4 inches across, the spike is 11 inches long. They are not easily available and are quite expensive. Hilmar Bauch has some at Euro 29.50 so with the postage you won’t get away with much short of £40. Best get him to bring one to a show.
David.

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From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: A few more while I'm at it
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:20

Dendrobium anosmum. This was taken a couple of weeks ago and I didn't bother to get the tripod and unfortunately this was the best of a very bad lot of snaps. It si though the best I've grown this. It had 2 spikes like this 40-something cms long. Good for here I think.

Masdevallia amplexa. I like these ones that flower again from the same stalk − you get a very long season from them.

Oncidium phalaenopsis. First flowering. I think they have to expand a bit more but I thought to take a photo anyway. Of late I have been too busy and have not keept up so well with keeping photographic records.

Andy

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Any Idea the name of this flower?
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:25

Hi all,

Well lots of activity this week, So I thought I would add to it.

This plant is from the Panama, Costa Rica border on the Carribean side. Any ideas what it is, interesting stalk, and it flowers all year round with just rain. It is 50M from the beach.

Jim

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