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March 1—7

From: geoffrey hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: European Orchid Congress, 2012.... another cock-up ?
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 09:00

I had an e-mail about the next big Australian Orchid "do" − The 19th AOC
which is due to take place in September next year , as I expect many readers
here did too. Which made me wonder , is that going to coincide with Budapest
next year ?

And then I realized that I don't know the EOC dates , and now that I have
spent some time trawling the 'net, I realize that no-one else knows them
either − or if they do, then they are keeping awfully quiet about it.

I do foresee that this will turn out to be like the French-based WOC − a
lash-up at the last minute run by people who haven't a clue, with consequent
nonsense about the organization.

That one ( the Fench WOC) was announce late, the dates were changed, and
when traders had booked space they were suddenly faced with a demand to stay
at the show, and keep their displays fresh, for 2 weeks instead of 5 days.
And the dire organization − where to be a registrant for one day cost twice
as much as being a paying member of the public and gave no advantages
whatsoever − denied use of the registrants lounge ( if anyone ever found it
! ) because that was only for registrants for the complete week , ditto
early entry, ditto copy of proceedings etc. I complained to the chairperson
- a well-known RHS personality − I won't say more, mustn't speak ill of the
dead, but needless to say my complaint went straight into the waste-paper
basket .

That chair-person was, I know, staying at the best hotel in Dijon ( a
miillionaire orchid-grower friend of mine stayed there too ) and it is my
understanding that her expenses were "of course" paid out of official funds.
made me spit that did , when as far as I could see her contribution was nil,
or as my old dad would have said " she couldn't run a cockle stall, never
mind a World Orchid Show".

Todays rant now over. Just tell me I'm wrong ?

geoff.

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From: Tom
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] European Orchid Congress, 2012.... another cock-up ?
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 09:35

one of the reasons i dropped out of RHS in all departments

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From: tony garthwaite
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Emailing: Tolumnia 'Raspberry'
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:55

Nice to have you back Geoff!!!

Missed your daily 'rants'!!!

The photo of Tolumnia 'Raspberry' I took this morning but it has been like
that for about 3 weeks now. The leaves are giving me cause for concern as
they are beginning to turn a "brownish-olive" colour. I think the plant will
have to be returned to the 'Orchid House' (I use the term loosely you
understand,) for 'a holiday' as my wife puts it.

Regards to all,

Tony G.

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: European Orchid Congress, 2012.... another cock-up ?
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 16:50

When I did the Events list for the OT website I took the date from
the BOC diary, and it still says April 12-15 on there − mind you, the
link to the eoc-budapest site no longer works...

Tricia

Women like silent men, they think they're listening.

On 06 Mar geoffrey hands wrote:

> I had an e-mail about the next big Australian Orchid "do" − The
> 19th AOC which is due to take place in September next year , as I
> expect many readers here did too. Which made me wonder , is that
> going to coincide with Budapest next year ?

>

> And then I realized that I don't know the EOC dates , and now that
> I have spent some time trawling the 'net, I realize that no-one
> else knows them either − or if they do, then they are keeping
> awfully quiet about it.

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From: geoffrey hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Emailing: Tolumnia 'Raspberry'
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 17:40

I wouldn't worry about bronzey leaves on Tolumnias Tony , I have very few
which are all green, and none of them is in spike ; on the other hand, one
with 36 flowers and buds is quite purplish brown on the leaves. I'll put
some pics up when I get my PC back − the new one I bought last autumn is in
mourning (I get an all black screen on boot-up, and nothing works...) the
hard drive must be Ok (?) since it will run in safe mode, but I can't get to
any of my docs − including pics − in that mode ...

Geoff

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From: geoffrey hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] European Orchid Congress, 2012.... another cock-up ?
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 17:45

I missed your site info' there − but all the links in Google on the subject
seem to lead to nowhere...even the Official EOC site !

Geoff

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Dendrobium transparens
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:30

Here’s a couple of photo’s of Dendrobium transparens. I took it to the OSGB meeting yesterday, and it filled the back of the car. I couldn’t see through the rear view mirror, a bit dodgy in central London.
David

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] European Orchid Congress, 2012.... another cock-up ?
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 23:05

Yes, indeed. I'm not at all sanguine about the accuracy of the BOC
details now, and have added a rider to the listing on 'our' site.

Tricia

To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research.

On 06 Mar geoffrey hands wrote:

> I missed your site info' there − but all the links in Google on the
> subject seem to lead to nowhere...even the Official EOC site !

> Geoff

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From: geoffrey hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dendrobium transparens
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 02:50

Quite magnificent.

How do you get that result what sort of rest ( I suppose) ?

It s not a species that I have.

I can t imagine that it gives keiki s too , but if it should .?

Geoff

David Martin wrote re [OrchidTalk] Dendrobium transparens

Here s a couple of photo s of Dendrobium transparens. I took it to the OSGB meeting yesterday, and it filled the back of the car. I couldn t see through the rear view mirror, a bit dodgy in central London.

David

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From: geoffrey hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] European Orchid Congress, 2012.... another cock-up ?
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 02:50

"To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is
research."

And if you have a few million dollars to give to LSE , it gets you a PhD
too...

Geoff

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From: geoffrey hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Dennis Read
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 03:00

I read in the March Newsletter from Burnham Orchids that they are having a
sale there one Saturday this month (?) of Dennis's plants − maybe not all
of them, but obviously quite a lot. He is a member of Devon OS I recall ,
which has a close relationship with Burnham OS − indeed I seem to remember
that when I went there( the orchid Soc.) to give a talk a few years ago,
the meeting was held at the nursery.

You will draw your own conclusions, and if Dennis is still a contributor and
reader of these messages we may hear from him. If not, I shall miss him.

Sorry that I can't actually give the date − that e-mail is not available (
I mentioned my PC woes I think) , but anyone within reach of Forches Cross
and interested can easily discover.

Dennis was a good grower and a source of great common sense.

Geoff

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From: tony garthwaite
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Emailing: Tolumnia 'Raspberry' and watering techniques
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 08:40

In that case, I'll allow my plant to grace the 'breakfast table' for a while
longer. My wife commented this morning that it had been in flower for about
2 months. Even if we take the average of our 'guesses', 4.5 weeks is still a
good length of time for flowering. Your 36 flowers puts my 10 in the shade!

Never mind, I think it is your technique for feeding which is the secret! I
remember you saying, a couple of months ago, that you "did not spray" with
water but "dipped the pot in a bowl of water if the compost was dry". I've
started to do this with a little bit of fertiliser in the water and the
plants appear to be responding positively. I had an automatic spray system
set up which was indiscriminate, though some staging remained dry, and I
found that this provided ideal conditions for sooty mould in the late summer
months. We shall see how the new watering regime gets on over the coming
weeks. Vandas and baskets still require spraying, which I do with my
Grandfather's 'Abol' hand sprayer.....which must be over100 years old!!!
They don't make them like they used to!!!

The sun is shining today (after 90% grey skies in February, this is an
unusual event here) but frost is forecast tonight. The Pleiones will feel at
home I suspect!

Tony G.

geoffrey hands wrote RE: [OrchidTalk] Emailing: Tolumnia 'Raspberry'

I wouldn't worry about bronzey leaves on Tolumnias Tony , I have very few
which are all green, and none of them is in spike ; on the other hand, one
with 36 flowers and buds is quite purplish brown on the leaves. I'll put
some pics up when I get my PC back − the new one I bought last autumn is in
mourning (I get an all black screen on boot-up, and nothing works...) the
hard drive must be Ok (?) since it will run in safe mode, but I can't get to
any of my docs − including pics − in that mode ...

Geoff

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From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] European Orchid Congress, 2012.... another cock-up ?
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:15

Geoff, In my book Dijon was a disaster.
I went to france on holiday to visit WOC at Dijon. Parking the car was a disaster 2 miles away in a street. At 9.30 am there was 1 kiosk open to buy a ticket as well as those with tickets. After half an hour they suddenly opened 4 kiosks and chasos reigned as the French do not queue. The main hall was in semi darkness and it was impossible to clearly see the detail of the orchids.
I latyer realised it was not controlled by orchidists but by Floriculture − a massive french plant distributer.
I eventially found the sales area where the main stands were selling spring bulbs.
I vowed to only visit orchid shows organised by British Societies, The BOC or Peterborough. They are organised by orchidists for orchidists and not profit.
On second thoughts it may be that it was French as they have difficulty organising a party in a brewery with the taps open.
Regards

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From: Anguel Iordanov
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Help with an orhcid.
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:45

Good morning everyone,

I am some information if anyone can help.

A few years back I purchased what I think it was Phaius Tankervilliae
(pictures attached) but it didn't have a label so I am not sure of the exact
name. Sadly I was quite new to orchids at the time and I manage to kill it
after having the plant for about 3 years.

I am in a position now where I have the right conditions for the plant and I
would like to replace it but I can't find anyone who sells the plant. As you
can see from the pictures the back of the flowers is white with a very
slightly pink tint and the front they start from light white and pink going
to dark brown as the flowers come to the end. What was most amazing about
this plant it was very heavily scented of vanilla.

I would very much appreciate it if you can help me identify the plant and
tell me where I can find one. I am in the UK.

Many thanks.

Anguel

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From: Anguel Iordanov
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dendrobium transparens
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:50

Hi David,

It looks amazing.

I know there is a lot of information out there but how do you get Dendrobium to flower? Mine is growing on a windowsill in the kitchen.

Thanks

Anguel

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From: geoffrey hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Help with an orhcid.
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 12:10

Yes, you have Phaius tankervilliae .

It so happens that I divided my large plant 2 or 3 years ago, and now have 3
decent plants − one more than I need, so I can sell you one, if you want.
The only slight difficulty is that it is fairly large − with those long
leaves, so will need a large box, and I'm not sure what it will cost to post
it. Unless you are in the South of England and can collect, or collect from
me at London Show ( maybe) ?

Maybe e-mail me privately and we can discuss ?

Geoff

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From: geoffrey hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Phaius tankervilliae
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:00

My best spike on this species this year − see pic − 12 flowers. On the
other hand, the another plant had two spikes with a total of 17 flowers (
from one bulb).

Geoff

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From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Help with an orhcid.
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:50

Hello Anguel,

It is definitely Phaius tankervilliae (there are at least three different spellings in use for this orchid, so I can never tell which one is the right one).

Anyway, I am sure I bought I very small seedling once from Plested orchids, but it was the alba form. I never got very far with it, and eventually died. However, I have grown one from an old spike of a phaius, I think it was provided by Geoff Hands many, many years ago!

It is not easy, and the plant is still very small... Nowhere near flowering size, but a great challenge if you have the time and want to try it!

All you have to do is get a finished flower spike from a healthy plant, cut the spike in lengths, making sure there are at least two nodes in each section you cut. You can then either lie them flat on sphagnum moss or sand, or pot them up horizontally on a small pot with fine, good quality bark. Then wait for a few months and if you're lucky you should get a few growths from the nodes.

I have tried both methods. My results weren't good lying them down on sphagnum, as they tend to produce a small growth then the spike begins to rot. The rot travels up the spike and eventually reaches the growth and it dies too.

I was a little more succesful with potting them up vertically on bark, getting 4 little plantlets. Unfortunately, after a couple of years, 3 out of 4 rotted and died. I still have the last one, which is only the size of a small marble, but every year it keeps producing new leaves and getting a little fatter, so maybe it will flower before I retire? ;-)

Hope this helps, somehow?

Francis

PS Geoff, if you happen to read this and have any more old spikes of Phaius, I would like to try again... I'll pay for the post and packaging costs, just like the past time?

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From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dennis Read
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:55

Geoff, Yes I am selling about 200 of my orchids, mainly Lycastineae, due to my failing sight.The auction will be at The Devon OS meeting on Sunday 20th March held at Burnham Orchids.
The proceeds will be divided equally between The DOS and ORCHID, the Male Cancer charity that Brian Rittershausen supported, as for 20 years he helped me to grow my orchids.
The DOS money will be spent on a raffle for all the beginers that enter the show table.
I am sure tou would be welcomed as a guest as long as you have cash.
Regards

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From: geoffrey hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Help with an orhcid.
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:25

Yes , Francis , there will be three spikes from my Phaius plants , available
this year. The best for you , and the others for whoever asks.

My plants came from one raised in this way , by a guy in the North Bucks
Society , many years ago , he reckoned to get them up to FS in two years,
and gave them away to some of us ( who were putting on displays at his
Society Show ) as a thank you.

My best results nowadays for adult plants ( I don't intend to raise any
keikis − have too many plants already ! ) are in sphagnum moss.

Alba form ? I've bought it three times, never got it anywhere near FS for
the first two , they died on me. Some albas in general, are feeble I
think.I've found that with some garden genera. I have noted that when I see
it at shows, it is of distinctly smaller stature, and different coloured
leaves too , but a lovely flower !

The third alba plant is actually a 5 inch potful I had from Sara (
Rittershausen) last year , growing quite well , all alive, lots of growths,
but none anywhere near FS. I think I shall have to take my courage in both
hands, and break up the mass into individual clumps , maybe my potful was
raised from a clump of protocorms ? − and grow them on separately. Kill or
cure

geoff

francis quesada pallares wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Help with an orhcid.

[snip]

PS Geoff, if you happen to read this and have any more old spikes of Phaius,
I would like to try again... I'll pay for the post and packaging costs, just
like the past time?

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dendrobium transparens
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 18:10

Hello Anguel,

I grow it cool in the winter with my Cymbidiums and water every 2 or 3 weeks. In the summer it s hung outside in the garden under a large flowering Cherry tree and watered well with weekly feeds. I leave it outside until the weather gets quite chilly and often find the buds are starting to burst out of the stems before bringing it into the greenhouse.

Anguel Iordanov wrote RE: [OrchidTalk] Dendrobium transparens

Hi David,

It looks amazing.

I know there is a lot of information out there but how do you get Dendrobium to flower? Mine is growing on a windowsill in the kitchen.

Thanks

Anguel

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dendrobium transparens
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 18:15

Hello Geoff,
Just answered Anguel about how to grow it to save me writing it again. It looks very like Den cassiope but I am sure it s not as I got it from a very reliable nursery.
I will send a keiki when the weather is frost free.
David

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From: Richard Baxter
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: EOC Budapest
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:15

Tricia

As Secretary of BOC I am pleased to learn that you are not sanguine about our events list − or perhaps that was just a wind-up to bring me out of the woodwork to post a message!
As you know, these lists are only as good as the suppliers of information. Like you, I still have 12 − 15 April in my diary but have yet to see anything official. The most recent set of minutes on the EOC website were for mid 2010 and did not inspire confidence that all was well at that time. This situation was mentioned at the BOC meeting yesterday, and I think that Max Hopkinson might try to get an update from Rudolph Jenny at the RHS Committee meeting in the next few days. If I hear anything I'll keep you updated.
Richard

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From: tony garthwaite
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Phaius tankervilliae
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 21:25

At last!!! One better than Geoff!! Well, six actually!

I bought P.tankervilliae from Geoff just before he moved from the Cotswolds.
It has flowered every year since and I was saying to my wife this afternoon
that as there were only 4 pseudobulbs, with a new growth just starting, I
did not think that I could afford to take away a couple of back-bulbs yet.

However, this year I had two flower spikes (like Geoff) one of them had
thirteen flowers and the second had ten flowers, (from one bulb)! Maybe,
after 20 + years, I'm getting the hang of this Orchid growing!
...............Only time will tell!!!

Thank you for providing me with a good plant Geoff!

Tony G.

geoffrey hands wrote re [OrchidTalk] Phaius tankervilliae

My best spike on this species this year − see pic − 12 flowers. On the
other hand, the another plant had two spikes with a total of 17 flowers (
from one bulb).

Geoff

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From: Kenneth Bruyninckx
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Akerne Orchids − Catalogue 2011 online
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 22:15

Dear Orchid Friends,

Today we have updated our catalogue.

This month we will be present at the London Orchid Show, one of the
premier orchid shows in Europe. Please note that pre-orders for
delivery at this show can be accepted until March 16th.

To browse our latest catalogue please proceed to
http://www.akerne-orchids.com/botanical.htm or
http://www.akerne-orchids.com/files/AO-201103.pdf for a printable PDF
version.

Happy orchid growing,

Diane, Dirk and Kenneth.

_________________
Kenneth Bruyninckx
Akerne Orchids
Laarsebeekdreef 4, B-2900 Schoten, Belgium

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: EOC Budapest
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 22:50

Richard, perhaps I didn't phrase my message as well as I could have -
I only meant that the BOC may not have been provided with accurate
information for Budapest, especially given that the EOC website
doesn't give a date at all!

--

Tricia

Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film.

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