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June 1—7

From: tony garthwaite
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dendrobium atroviolaceum and Neofinetia falcata
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 08:30

Tricia,
That is a useful site. Thank you! I'll be using Sphagnum moss this morning!

When the Dendrobium flowers fully, I'll send a photo.
Tony G

Tricia Garner wrote re: Dendrobium atroviolaceum and Neofinetia falcata


Tony, I like your Dendrobium atroviolaceum cross; atroviolaceum and
its hybrids are a particular favourite of mine.

Regarding Neofinetia falcata, there is good information on Neofinetia
culture on Glen Lehr's website, http://www.newworldorchids.com/
especially the page http://newworldorchids.com/pages/neoculture.htm -
there is a link about halfway down to another page showing
illustrations of potting Neofinetia using the 'heaped up' method
mentioned by Geoff.

--

Tricia

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted then used against you.


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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: red spider mite
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 12:00

I thought that those troubled with this pest may be interested in a new
treatment − which I just heard about from the firm I buy my hydroponics and
grow- light stuff from − Growell. It's called − Nite Nite Spider Mite.

I can't seem to be able to create a link − but you could google it, or go to
Growell Hydroponics .co.uk

Geoff

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Neofinetia falcata
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 12:15

It is a useful site − it actually gives light values − which is very rare.

The 1500-3000 FC mentioned ( Tricia,
> That is a useful site. Thank you! I'll be using Sphagnum moss this morning!

> When the Dendrobium flowers fully, I'll send a photo.
> Tony G

Tricia Garner wrote re: [OrchidTalk] Dendrobium atroviolaceum and Neofinetia falcata

> > Tony, I like your Dendrobium atroviolaceum cross; atroviolaceum and
> > its hybrids are a particular favourite of mine.

> > Regarding Neofinetia falcata, there is good information on Neofinetia
> > culture on Glen Lehr's website, http://www.newworldorchids.com/
> > especially the page http://newworldorchids.com/pages/neoculture.htm -
> > there is a link about halfway down to another page showing
> > illustrations of potting Neofinetia using the 'heaped up' method
> > mentioned by Geoff.

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From: rudolf günnel
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Paph and Phrag
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 20:50

Hi all,

After a spell of silence on the list it's been revived now.

To keep the wheel turning I send my latest photos of Paph hangianum and
Phrag warszewiszianum.

Paphiopedilum hangianum

It is one of the few Paphs which scents. Its fragrance is fresh and lovely.
I bought this plant in a famous German
orchid nursery as Paph emersonii a bit more than two years ago. Now it
blooms as Paph hangianum. The changing
didn't occur less due to my care than more due to a classic case of
mislabelling.

But I know worse ones!!
Phragmipedium warszewiszianum

That's the valid name according to KEW now. It used to be Phrag caudatum
var. wallisii or only Phrag wallisii.

I am totally fascinated by its blooms with their tall petals since they have
blossomed out and they have been growing on and on.

It's hard to picture it in one photo in a reasonable way − therefore I took
three.

Best regards from Germany, rudolf

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Paph and Phrag
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 09:05

You were very lucky with your hangianum ! If it happened to me, I would
not go back and complain !

Wrong labelling is usually a pain.

When CITES were first introduced I bought a large ( and expensive ) clump of
what was supposed to be P.randsii ; it took me several years to get it
growing strongly enough to flower, and when it did, it was a perfectly
ordinary P.callosum ; and the flask of P. sanderianum bought from another
dealer turns out to be (perhaps) a Vanilla species ..which I have not yet
flowered and probably never will as it may be one which requires conditions
impossible to reproduce here , even if I knew what they were.

So to get something good, and probably even more expensive than the one you
thought you had got makes you a very lucky man Rudolf !

geoff

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Neofinetia falcata, and Gibberellins
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:20

Hello,

this may help .......not quite what you want but useful information...I think.

http://ddr.nal.usda.gov/bitstream/10113/18107/1/IND43777821.pdf

regards,

Lynda

Geoffrey Hands wrote re: [OrchidTalk] Neofinetia falcata, and Gibberellins

> I took a plant to our experts forum/brains-trust/problem page
> whatever you like to call it, event at my orchid society a couple
> of months ago a Neofinetia falcata ( the species) which is now
> maybe a dozen growths, all looking good, filling a 5 inch, or
> thereabouts, pan .

> Problem is , very few or even no flowers. I have tried it hanging
> up near the roof; also left it outside in the sun ( and for cool
> nights). Tried it down on the bench half shaded by other plants
> etc etc − two or three years of trying various ideas several months
> at least in each position ( except outside since it burnt, and I
> had to bring it back to grow new clean leaves) my question, of
> course, was how can I persuade it to flower ?

> Perhaps the best idea was from someone who pointed out that the
> Japanese are believed to grow it in sphagnum moss , heaped up so
> that half the roots are in moss which is drying out. I re-potted it
> in that way , and whilst it looks good, that is so recent that I
> don t know whether it will do the trick , and I have forgotten when
> the usual flowering season is so don t know if I should be
> disappointed now, or at Xmas, or whatever ..

> But at the most recent meeting, a ( retired) micro-biologist in the
> Society said that she had been thinking about my problem, and
> suggested Giberellic Acid . She is bringing me some to the next
> meeting, and in the mean-time I have been googling this and learnt
> something about it ; to save you the time, if you are not that
> interested the gibberellins are a naturally occurring hormone
> there about 14 different ones ( out of a group of about 70) found
> in germinating rice for example, and G3 acid ( I guess a mix ? )
> is the usual one for horticultural experiment. It can promote
> growth ( like keiki-paste, which may in fact contain the stuff)
> promote flowering, increase flowering, produce larger flowers,
> produce deformed flowers, lead to greatly extended growth rates,
> lead to much extended inter-node distances in new shoots, break
> dormancy in seeds as an alternative to vernalisation , etc etc
> depending on dosage, frequency, the nature of the plant, and the
> stage of growth when used etc etc.

> I have found a few references to orchids (still looking) but
> the point of this mail is to ask does any member have any knowledge
> or can point to any references which may help me in this ?

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Neofinetia falcata, and Gibberellins
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:20

It s useful, Lynda, thank you.

Geoff

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Garden orchids.
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 17:45

Hi all,

Many years ago, I purchased Dactylorhiza Maderensis, from I think Norman Hayward.

As you can see it is now three flower spikes and such a gorgeous colour.

Well worth growing in your garden..............but beware...........some of the prices that I see are ridiculous.

Cheers, Rodge.

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From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Garden orchids.
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 02:30

Garden orchids mean something different for someone in Coral Gables. Your orchids are magnificent. Unfortunately I doubt that they would tolerate our heat. Here are some pictures that grow in my garden.

The Oncidium sphacelatum grows around a large palm (these only shows half of the plant).

The red flower is a large Renanthera

This Sobralia is purple to blue and grows in the garden.

This is Sob. decora (most likely a hybrid) grows in the grown. In the fall it blooms for one day for maybe 10 or 15 days.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Garden orchids.
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:30

Mike Powell, a member of Bournemouth Society, specialises in terrestrial
orchids ( and grows a good many species never seen or heard of anywhere
else.) and he grows O.maderense in 12 inch pots crammed with − well, I
didn't count − but maybe 12 or more spikes − as very recently seen at one of
our meetings. He has a form ( or his culture produces) darker flowers than
the one you show. I imagine that he grows them in an unheated house − Alpine
house style.

Since my Beltia/Bletilla ( I really must look this up and find out what we
used to call the Woolworth orchid is actually called − and if you remember
Woolworths you must be getting old [!] ) is now up to eight or so stems -
but no flowers this year − they were blasted by the late frosts in that
terrible winter so recently ended ; and my now three patches of different
Cyp species and hybrids are all doing well in different parts of the garden,
maybe I too will try O.maderense.

Geoff

Roger Grier wrote re: [OrchidTalk] Garden orchids.

> Hi all,

> Many years ago, I purchased Dactylorhiza Maderensis, from I think Norman
> Hayward.

> As you can see it is now three flower spikes and such a gorgeous colour.

> Well worth growing in your garden..............but beware...........some of
> the prices that I see are ridiculous.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: That maderan orchid...
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:55

How curious that the RHS plant finder has no entries at all under
Dactylorhiza , Dactylhoriza, or even Dactyl. ( and it is supposed to work on
part names too).

Is it possible that Kew have reinvented the genus under another name ?

Any clues , anyone ?

Geoff

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Garden orchids.
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:00

Periodically , J, you remind me what a wonderful world we live in.

If (only) you could bring that Oncidium to London, or Uk at all, and show
it, you would get best in class, best Oncidiniae, best species, best in show
( collect your wheelbarrow, to put your rosettes, cups, shields, medals , in
- from the corner by the ice-cream cream bar ). Flowering of that kind, on
any orchid, is far beyond our wildest dreams.

But was it not you, J, (?) who told me that it was after visiting us and
eating our strawberries that you knew for the first time what strawberries
could be like, should be like, never were like − except in our often cool,
rainy, climate ? So we have our moments, as you do.

( of course your words may not be quite so poetic as mine, here − but then I
drank far too much at lunch-time today − rather depressed at the thought of
my visit to the Oncologist in the coming week) − of which more anon , or
maybe just silence..

geoff

jns tropic wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Garden orchids.

> Garden orchids mean something different for someone in Coral Gables. Your
> orchids are magnificent. Unfortunately I doubt that they would tolerate our
> heat. Here are some pictures that grow in my garden...

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] That maderan orchid...
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:40

Hello Geoff,

I may have put you and others off the track as its real name is: Dactyorhiza foliosa. But all the people that I know still call it D. Maderensis.

Rodge.

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From: Tony Watkinson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Wheelbarrow
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:45

Funny you should mention an Onc sphacelatum in a wheelbarrow as it reminded me that a year or two back, someone brought just that to a club meeting. It was the only way he could move it. See the attachment.

Tony

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From: John J. Rupp
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Wheelbarrow
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:25

All I can say to that Onc sphacelatum picture is − "Oh, my God!!" I
have been happy when mine had two spikes and no where near that length.

John R

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From: Alex
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] That maderan orchid...
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:10

I thought that was the latest name and I have just bought one at the
Tatton show, £18 , nice plant with one spike, also bought a gymnadenia
conopsea. I had two D. foliosa and a D praetermissa last year and now
only have the praetermissa and that hasnt flowered. Presumably because of
the cold winter but I did take them into my garage for the coldest spells.
Think the conopsea likes a limey soil so will have to watch that.
Regards, Alex

> Hello Geoff,
>
> I may have put you and others off the track as its real name is:
> Dactyorhiza foliosa. But all the people that I know still call it D.
> Maderensis.
>
> Rodge.

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