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1—7 November

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Tricia's Tips.
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008

Mornin' Tricia,

Name them, not number them.....makes it easier for you when you put them on the Website, and of course makes it easier for all of us, even for me when I have another look at them.

There is no excuse, give me fifty lines.

Cheers Rocky.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: The Clubs Website.
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008

Hi all,

I have just had a very good look at the website that Tricia looks after, and I must say that I am the 'Club's' worst offender for not having a look at it more often, although that is to be altered forthwith.

Tricia, you do an excellent job, especially as I have seen many other websites/chat rooms to do with orchids, and many of them are cluttered up with smily's and other meaningless rubbish.

And so on to the photos/images.....................woops!!! I now see what you were on about Tricia. I will now endeavour to make sure that I give the file a name, and also put the name of the flower/plant in the photo using a graphics programme.

Many thanks, Rocky.

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008

Regarding these rarely seen genera ( rarely seen in UK).... Acineta, Bollea,
Huntleya in particular. Currently I only have Acineta off this list , and I
have never seen any plant of any of these three genera in flower in UK .
I've seen Bollea and Huntleya , and Pescatoria in flower in South America in
shows/collections in the wild, and even in cottage gardens....

BTW − do I mean Pescatoria ? Plant looks like Bollea and Huntleya -
bulbless, fans of leaves − leaves up to say 15 inch length ?

Is the lack of sightings due to lack of good plants ? I have bought Huntleya
and Bollea in the past and lost them − maybe with the knowledge gained from
a million orchids killed − OK I'm exaggerating − but I deliberately don't
keep count...I could do better now. I would certainly like to try, and maybe
I can get someone to bring plants for me to one of the Uk or European shows
next year.

But which species − Jim, you can point me in the right direction of what to
look for ?

As to Acineta − how do you get it to flower ? How do you get it to make big
bulbs so that it must flower ? What am I doing wrong ?.What do they actually
need . Advice anyone ?

Geoff

JIM MATEOSKY wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south
America

> Thanks all,

> I will definitely get a Masd. cocinea or 2.

> Nobody made any suggestion of Lycaste, Acienta, Maxilaria, Bolleas..

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: The Clubs Website.
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008

On 01 Nov, in article ,
Roger Grier wrote:
> Hi all,

> I have just had a very good look at the website that Tricia looks
> after, and I must say that I am the 'Club's' worst offender for not
> having a look at it more often, although that is to be altered
> forthwith.

> Tricia, you do an excellent job, especially as I have seen many
> other websites/chat rooms to do with orchids, and many of them are
> cluttered up with smily's and other meaningless rubbish.

> And so on to the photos/images.....................woops!!! I now
> see what you were on about Tricia. I will now endeavour to make
> sure that I give the file a name, and also put the name of the
> flower/plant in the photo using a graphics programme.

Thanks Rocky, that would be great. With regard to the content of the
website, I'm not sure if there is anything else I can put on it
without re-inventing the wheel so I have concentrated on trying to
upload the messages and photos as near monthly as possible. That
said, I'm sure room could be found for more good articles supplied by
members.

Cheers,

--

Tricia

You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a clipboard.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008

Hello to you all, on this dark and dismal day in southern England. And while I am on the subject, the next four months can be a real trial as here in the U.K. we do lack winter sunlight.

And so on to what Geoff has said. I entirely agree and can't wait for the next London Orchid Show.

Last year I purchased some plants which were very good examples. However, like Geoff's 'List', I bought two Houlletias. They were so very small and I am sure that I have lost both of them. I have been searching around Europe for them, but with no luck.

This of course is exactly what Geoff, and I also are on about.

My 'Wants List' is on a similar par to Geoff's..........hardly any decent plants about. One that I did buy last year is one that I have tried two or is it three times before.....Eriopsis biloba. At the moment it is sat in my greenhouse in a sort of dormant stage. Maybe it has moved slightly, but this plant never does well. Anyone got any ideas. Maybe Erica can help us.

That will do for now.

Regards Rocky.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Critter damage.
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008

Hi all,

It's that time of year again..........when I could pull my hair out and utter some awful rude words. As you can see from the two images, the 'Critter' has been at work again. I was so damned mad that the nice spike from the 'Odont' was just hanging by a thread. But in one sense, at least that spike which was growing from a very small bulb will now not drain the plant.....the 'Critter' saw to that.

The spike on my nice Doritis was also damaged.....but is still intact, and just maybe some buds will develop and flower. Maybe!!!

Hell, was I annoyed.

And same as last year, so far I do not have a clue who is responsible.

At least I have taken some action..........more images to follow.

Cheers. Rocky.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Outsmarting the 'Critter'.
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008

Hi all,

Normally by this time of year I would have dunked all of my orchids in the 'Vine Weevil Killer' mixture, as it worked wonders the last two years, but circumstances have been against me this year.....but I may do it next week.

As you can see I do wear rubber gloves as it is after all common sense.

I normally dunk the whole pot so that it is completely immersed, for a few seconds or more.

It shore makes any critters run out at lightening speed. And next morning there are a few corpses lying around.

Cheers, Rocky.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Emailing: 1. Vine Weevil Killer, 2. Vine Weevil Killer, 1. Bug Killer Spray, 2. Bug Killer Spray
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008

Hi all,

This is the product that I use all the time and I think it is the best of the bunch.

It sure does work extremely well.

Regards, Rocky.

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From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: DARWINARA
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008

DARWINARA CHARM 'Blue Star' x VANDOFINETIA Virgil

I bought this plant about 3 or 4 years ago and it is now flowering for the first
time. I don't know
whether it has been registered under it's own name. Also I don't know who made this
cross.
It is a nice compact plant and it grows under intermediate conditions.
Peter

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From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] The Clubs Website.
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008

What is the address of the Clubs Website? I'm not aware that there is a website.
Peter

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008

Geoff,

As far as pescatoria ( spelling is not a strong suit of mine ).

Acienta, pescatoria, bollea, they grow in a similar environment to Miltonopsis, ( I point this out as you all have mentioned you grow this plant before) but then I have my Miltonias, Cats, dends, cymbs, maxilarias, draculas, masds, phrags, paphs...... all in the same area I basically have different Light levels and change how I water them.

I would recomend any pescatoria, huntleya, cochliantis, you can get your hands on.

This might be out of line but I would be delighted to put together ¨a collection¨ and overnight it to you all, mabe we could trade for a EC meter as that is hard to get down here. I am open for ideas or suggestions.

Jim

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From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] DARWINARA
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008

Your cross is not registered but Darwinara Charm 'Blue Star' is. It has won two awardsAn
AD in Florida and two months later an FCC in Calafonia. Seems odd that the same name is on two awarded plants?
Regards Dennis

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Emailing: 1. Vine Weevil Killer, 2. Vine Weevil Killer, 1. Bug Killer Spray, 2. Bug Killer Spray
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008

http://www.orchidspecies.com/eriopsisbiloba.htm

http://www.orchidspecies.com/eriobiloba.htm

A mere name to me − this one − but having looked it up ( follow the links
above ) I am amazed. It's on my list now.

However , I see that it comes from Peru and Ecuador among other places. So
there is a good chance of getting one or other of the S.American nurseries
who visit UK to bring it as a special order − this is exactly the reason why
I need to know who is coming to a show − and know some way ahead so that
they can put the plant on their CITES list in time. It's no use , in this
mad over-regulated world run by Bureaucrats, to ask for it the day before
they are leaving for UK.

The Orchid encyclopaedia is supposed to give some sort of help as to
conditions needed, but as the Editor of the Orchid Review said to me only an
hour ago when we were discussing this ( I had taken up the point she made in
a book review , about an Encyclopaedia of orchids being the best there is -
pointing out that the Internet encyclopaedia has far more species listed) -
the guidance given is so vague as to be useless. For Eria biloba for example
- "warm to cool growing" − what on earth does that mean ? And "Bright Light
or Full Light" ? Presumably the season icons indicate flowering period ?
Even there Spring/Summer.....

Geoff

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Critter damage.
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008

Looks like slug/snail damage to me Roger. Dunking does not do much if they
are hiding under a bench slat at the time. And I am not sure that Provado
would do much damage to them ? Ammonia is good for those pests I find − as
we discussed a few months ago.

Geoff

PS I water all my plants by dunking, unless I am in a hurry, and I use
Physan added to the water ( at every watering) as a general irritant to
pests of all kinds. It's also a wetting agent so it makes sure there are no
dry patches missed out.

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From: John J. Rupp
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [?? Probable Spam] [OrchidTalk] Critter damage.
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008

Hi Rocky,

The "critter damage" from your pics looks like very clean cuts,
especially on the Doritis. I would say you have a four-footed furry
critter, perhaps a mouse. I had damage that looked identical to yours
last year, so set some traps. The next morning, I had a mouse in all
three traps. By the time it was over, I had eight of those little furry
guys. Now, I just set out traps and bait when weather turns cold.

In your next couple of messages, thanks for showing both the bottles and
labels with ingredients, as products often carry different names and
ingredients here in the US. I do not find anything called 'vine weevil
killer' and nothing that contains thiacloprid. I have imidacloprid,
but that is not the same. Will keep looking.

Sorry about the pests, but thanks for the other info.

John R

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] DARWINARA
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008

Your hybrid will still be a Darwinara it seems − a mix of Neofinetia,
Rhyncostylis, Vanda, & Ascocentrum.

It looks as though it gets a lot of light − that yellowishlook to the leaves
?

I bought a few Darwinaras − inc Charm, a few years ago but have not flowered
them ; I wondered if I was growing too warm since the Neo element , which
seems fairly dominant , is a cool grower.

I have a mass of the Neo species − a plant which has grown to fill its pot
with half a dozen or moré growths branching from the original, but it did
not want to flower; mine was a dark green, although hanging up with my
Vandas; so this year I put it outside in full sun ; in fact I scorched it
and had to cut some marked leaves off ; it did then produce one spike, of
quite large flowers, although it was relatively few flowered. On reflection
I wonder if it was he cooler nights rather than the sun ? Maybe next year
I'll put it outside in the shade.

Geoff

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From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Here are some movie clips from my garden
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008

This is the movie clip about my garden in October 08:
http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?swfhttp%3A//s.ytimg.com/yt/swf/cps-vfl62057.swf&video_idwuSwm_xV-nM&rel1&showsearch1&eurlhttp%3A//togofcoralgables.com/MovieClips.aspx&iurlhttp%3A//i4.ytimg.com/vi/wuSwm_xV-nM/hqdefault.jpg&skFHzCUCy1Q87n8CqW-SRcb5Yq9t8fOTpaC&use_get_video_info1&load_modules1&hqt1&fs1&hlen

And this is all of my movie clips:
http://togofcoralgables.com/MovieClips.aspx

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Brighten the day − some names − some questions...
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008

My dendrochilum glumaceeum − I think I have the specific name right − the
labels have faded − I say they since I have two big plants with maybe
fifty spikes between them − hence the second picture to show something of
the quite charming effect- seem to be extremely long lasting this year. I
considered entering them in a show in September , and here it is in
November, and still going strong. But not so scented this year ? I suppose
producing perfume takes it out of the plant, and it's one or the other ? An
interesting question I think.

Andy will recognise the bowringiana − a nice example of the typical version
of the species. I once had "Black prince" but lost it, and I have a coerulea
version as an unflowered seedling.

The Brachtia − new to me. Bought it from Jac Wubben at Dawlish. He says its
cool growing. Will have to see how it does for me !

The Jumellea has delightful white flowers difficult to do justice to them
with this snap . They are actually a smooth white ivory colour and texture ;
trying to get the colour right has made them look more crystalline. Not too
free flowering − maybe I need to vary the culture somehow. It is an
angreacum cousin, but softer greener leaves, more delicate, less robust .

The macradenia looks as though it could make a specimen − needs to, as its a
miniature, but I have two good spikes this year, just opening the first
flowers only today.

Some hybrids follow i a further e-mail

Geoff

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Some hybrids and comments about names.
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008

The Chiangmai Gold is as perfect an ascocenda as one could wish for -it is a
meristem , and clearly they picked a good one to reproduce ( they being
Kultana). Flowers quite large − 7cm

The other yellow asco is a seedling, better flower count , smaller flowers,
but still very good.

Burrageara Stefan Isler is well known in UK. The clone "Burning Embers " was
on sale for several years, but has now disappeared from the sales benches I
think. This one − "Lava Flow" came from Nardello − and is very similar.
First flowering − probably in spike when it came. Several spikes on the
plant, but none of them as good as I know can be had, but hey − it's a first
flowering for the plant.

Cty Joseph Riley , is the plant sold by Nardello as Epicat Joseph Ridley.
That name can't be found, but Joe Riley can − it's a cross between C
bicolour and Epi tampensis ; and the flower looks right for that − so I have
renamed it on my label. Again a first flowering- it's a plant I've had
since the spring . Will/maybe ? do much better . C bicolour can make canes a
couple of feet high and have maybe a dozen flowers ? I have never seen that
many except in photographs. Tampensis has bulbs the size of a malteser , and
my plants of that species have not had branched spikes, although again I
think its possible. But what the hybrid can or will do, remains to be seen.

RSC Don Herman I used to grow as an Epicat , but RSC is what it now is -
apparently. I have three spikes, but spaced around the rim of an 8 inch pot
; I think I'll repot it, take a lot of the older canes out of the middle,
and try to get the new growths − when they arrive − closer together for more
effect.

The Thai Sky is the best colour I have seen this year − and I have had maybe
three or four flowerings on this or other plants. It's one I fall in love
with when I see it, and buy it, only to remember later that I already have
it − it's a fault (?) of mine − I do the same in the garden with shrubs ,
and then when they come into flower find I have the same thing in four
places.... I suppose this spike was initiated when we had a lot of sun some
weeks/months ago which accounts for the good colour ?

Wilsonara Zoe's Fire is another new arrival in the collection, from the last
Nardello shipment. Again a super colour, but a huddled crowded spike . Will
do better next time, or maybe I shall fall out of love with it.

Cattleya Hawaiian Wedding Song "Virgin" − this is my second plant of this
which now has three flowers open , and better flowers than the one I showed
last week (?). The white really is perfect − virginal . A lovely thing. I
find that this clone got an HCC from the AOS.

Geoff

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Provado
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008

Mornin' John,

You wrote:
In your next couple of messages, thanks for showing both the bottles and labels with ingredients, as products often carry different names and ingredients here in the US. I do not find anything called 'vine weevil killer' and nothing that contains thiacloprid. I have imidacloprid, but that is not the same. Will keep looking.

John, I think it was last year, or maybe the year before that, on the label for the spray product it did contain 'thiacloprid', but they changed it to 'imidacloprid'.....maybe they found that it was better??? It sure does a great job.

Cheers, Rocky.

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008

Jim , I tried to mail you directly ( privately) but my message bounced, with
the explanation 'yahoo.com' not known.

I can't believe it !

Perhaps you can mail me direct − and I'll try
using 'reply' instead of typing the address in.

Geoff

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From: Lynda Coles
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: bulbophyllum
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008

Hello all,

A few photo's of Bulbophyllum frostii that might be of interest, they have been open for a couple of weeks now. They are about 1 inch long (2.5cms) with a tiny hinged & mobile lip, Commonly known as the 'clog-orchid' I believe.

regards,
Lynda

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From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Brighten the day − some names − some questions...
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008

Nice plants Geoff and yes it is nice to see the C bowringiana − I don't know if I told you before but I got it from Bob Dadd when he was selling his collection. Mine is a little behind yours − buds just starting to show colour.

Your posting was well timed − I was about to follow up my previous request for info on Dendrochilum latifolium as I have had no response − surely someone else must grow it? Anyway looking at you pics, D glumaceum looks more like D latifolium to me though I don't know much about them. Anyway IOSPE gives similar culture for both. So how can I get it headng towards 50 spikes ?

Andy

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Critter damage.
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008

Hello John,
As Rocky says, the chemical name was changed a couple of years ago. Try looking at Google, lots of information there.
David

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Brighten the day − some names − some questions...
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008

These dendrochilums are Phillipines orchids. Weather there is rather similar
to Singapore − no real rest or dry season , could rain any day − maybe
10-20cm in a shower, then sun again for maybe 3-4 days etc. So I keep them
permanently growing . Mine are in my one and only house − temp now going
down to 13 on cold nights − stat actually set to 15. − never repot , just
drop on into larger pot...

I am not sure what composts are involved − I suspect pure Perlite in the
middle, later layers added are of whatever I was using at the time.

My latest technique is a fairly high pressure jet ( mainswater supply via
one of those Gardena spray devices where you can choose different jet or
spray patterns) to wash off some of the old stuff rather than teasing it
away , when I repot. Both mine need to move on when the flowers are over -
of course they arise from the centre of new growths − and this year I am
using Ratcliffes medium bark quite widely.

I have had success with glumaceum, longifolium/magnum, cobbianum... but lost
a few others...

Geoff

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] The Clubs Website.
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008

On 02 Nov, in article ,
PG Hieke wrote:

> What is the address of the Clubs Website? I'm not aware that there
> is a website. Peter

[Snip]

Hi Peter, it's at www.orchid-talk.co.uk − I would be interested to
know how members discovered the group, so how did you originally find
it if not via the website? :-)

Regards,

--

Tricia

He who laughs last, thinks slowest.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: The latest sales gimmick.
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008

Mornin' all,

I thought I had seen it all, as they say, but this latest 'gimmick' from the other side of the English Channel is a new one to me.

What are your thoughts?

Cheers Rocky.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: One new flower, one old friend.
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008

Hi all,

My Odontioda 'Stirbic' always seems to do well, and the spike will give me six flowers. Some very nice deep shades on this cross.

The BLC. Hawaiian Satisfaction 'Romantic' came from our 'Italian Friends'. I am not that pleased with it this year for some reasons.

1. When in the bud stage, I noted that the six buds were very short and fat. One of the buds in the centre of the bunch had a mark on it, so I took it off, merely to make way for the other five. As you can see, they are too tightly bunched together and do not do the individual flowers justice.

2. I will of course hope that I can grow this plant better next year, especially if the buds elongate somewhat, and are better spaced out on the stem.

Do any of you have this plant, and can you give me any feedback please. By the way, it has a lovely perfume.

Cheers, Rocky.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Epilaeliocattleya 'Don Herman'.
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008

Hi all,

Thanks to Geoff, when he posted his image of this plant.....it jogged my memory, and told me to write a label.

A nice flower, but only two of them.....must do better next term !!!!

Cheers, Rocky.

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From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] DARWINARA
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008

RE: [OrchidTalk] DARWINARA No, you are not growing it too warm.
I have the Darwinara Charm 'Blue Star as well and I grow it in the hothouse.
I have it for almost 10 years. It is now in a 30 cm basket and it floweres
a good number of inflorescenses with many flowers every year. Medium to
bright light all year round. Temperatures from about 10/12 in winter to
30/35 in summer. I'll try to get a picture of the plant, but this will
take a few days.
Peter
Ps
The Darwinara Charm 'Blue Star x Vandofinetia Virgil and the Vasco Thai Sky are
growing next to each other in my intermediate area.

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From: Tony Garthwaite
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Critter damage.
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008

Not being a 'betting man' I would put my money on a big slug and use "Slugit"! (Spray liberally 'over under through and out'.......as they say in knitting circles......not forgetting liberally on the floor and walls and ceiling!)
Regards again from Turkey where I am missing some rather nice orchid blooms but hope to see the Paph I bought from Geoff flower when I return in 3 weeks. It has three flower stems on it! (Thanks for the advice earlier this year Geoff!)

Tony G.

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From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] One new flower, one old friend.
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008

Hi Rocky

It doesn't look as if the BLC. Hawaiian Satisfaction 'Romantic' has opened fully yet. Below is a pic of mine for comparison. If it is sitting like that I'd check the root system. I think there is a problem with many hybrids the the flowers don't arrange well on the spike and especially when there are a lot of them. With many I disbud at an early stage to space them out − looks better in the long run.

Andy

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] The latest sales gimmick.
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008

Nice to see paphs on sale − whatever. I have not seen these half pots
before. If the price was right I would buy.

Geoff

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Critter damage.
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008

Hi Tony,

Pay up mate..........I think it was a snail. The only critter that I found was a smallish snail of the common garden variety, about the size of the nail on my middle finger..........it is now a flat snail.....a very flat snail.

Cheers, Rocky.

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From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: 3 nice white catts
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008

I really like white cattleyas and here are 3 in flower right now. From
left:

Cattleya Angel Bells Suzie, Cattleya Queen Sirikhit, and Cattleya dolosa
Alba ( just going over). All are very highly perfumed and very easy going.
I split my specimen of Angel Bells this year as it was just too big − it
does tend to sprawl sideways and takes up a fair bit of space.

Andy

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: names...
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008

Yeah , well I know what I said about they don't matter etc... but that was
then , and this is now.

A fella' can change his mind can't he ?

So − Colmanara Wildcat . Or maybe two t's ? Commonly sold and mass
produced, although rarely labelled with any name other than "orchid".
Several varieties too − dark red, and often chestnut with lots of gold and
touches of red, etc...

But the RHS register does not know it. Odontocidium Wildcat , yes ...and the
parents look likely − Odcm Crowbrough ( which I know well) and Odcm Rustic
Bridges − never heard of it.

Anyone have any comments, suggestions, etc ?

Geoff

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From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] One new flower, one old friend.
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008

Put the plant farther away from the light to make it stretch toward the light.
This advise I was given by Robert Fuchs.

Peter

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From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] The Clubs Website.
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008

Hi Tricia,
Very simple, by word of mouth. A friend told me and I just subscribed, many years
ago.

Regards

Peter

"Tricia Garner" wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] The Clubs Website.

> Hi Peter, it's at www.orchid-talk.co.uk − I would be interested to
> know how members discovered the group, so how did you originally find
> it if not via the website? :-)

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] One new flower, one old friend.
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008

That is a real object lesson . I must admit that I have not thought of
disbudding − a very useful trick − but you need to know your plant to
realise its effectiveness,

Geoff

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] 3 nice white catts
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008

Lovely drooly white catts.. I love em.

Interesting about splitting up; I had a Botriochlus bellus (syn. Coelia
bella) which I grew to be a specimen filling a 12inch pot, with I forget how
many flower spikes − I was taking it to the RHS committee hoping for a
CCC/RHS but the flowers went over before the first available meeting − but
they did not look very lovely anyway − too many growths, too many leaves -
the flowers quite hidden.
Later I split it up, and the best of the divisions in a 1 litre pot has
maybe half a dozen spikes − and of course far fewer leaves ( because far
fewer growths) which I think − fingers crossed − will show the flowers off
to real advantage. Watch this space .

Geoff

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From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] names...
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008

Geoff, The orchid wiz encyclopedia gives a result for Wildcat and Wild Cat both in the Onont. Alliance group and our Italiannursery sells a Wild Cat.
Regards

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Photography/
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008

Mornin' all,

A little discussion on photography.

The first photo that I put up of Epilaeliocattleya 'Don Herman' was the product of about six or seven attempts. Even then I was not that satisfied. So this morning I tried again with a different backdrop.....coloured grey.

Now we could chat about different backdrops till the cows came home, but my old mate always said that shades of grey were better than black. Well, I still think that black is best for the majority of photos that we all take, but what are your feelings.

I do feel that for some reason or other that eludes me for the moment.....the latest photo of 'Don Herman' gives a better definition of the red markings on the lip.

And now on to Lynda's photo of her Bulbophyllum Frostii. Gosh what a difficult subject. Bits and pieces at different angles and as for depth of field, well a real trial. So, well done Lynda as I know how awkward these types of orchids can be to photograph.

May I ask you if you used a tripod? And if you can supply any information then please let us know.

Cheers, Rocky.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Andy's three Cattleyas.
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008

Mornin' Andy,

When you mentioned your three white Cattleyas and I looked at the one photo, I thought to myself....."He's been on the bottle again, he's only sent one photo".

Then I looked closer and 'observation' clicked in.

I would say that the middle one is the best, slightly winning the votes over the left hand one. The one on the right a definite 'Third Place'.

A great idea for putting the three of them in one photo.

As for your comments and photo of your 'Hawaiian Satisfaction', at least yours and mine are almost identical. I noticed that mine do not appear to want to open their lips so much as yours, but time will tell.

As to root action, no problem there, but we will see what turns up next year.

Cheers, Rocky.

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From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] The Clubs Website.
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008

Tricia,

I think I got our website by Googling Orchids.

Ronbow.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] The latest sales gimmick.
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008

Hello Geoff,

As you say.....If the price was right. I am quite shore that Xmas must be on the way.....it shows in the prices.

I must also say that some of the Paphs and Phallys, also the quite large Cattleyas told me I was correct because of the apparent prices that have suddenly shot up.

I may be able to send the prices in a few days time. They may prove interesting.

Rocky.

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] The Clubs Website.
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008

Thanks Peter for the info on how you found the group − word of mouth
is always good :-)

Thanks also Ronbow for the info that Googling Orchids will find the
website.

One of the best ways to keep a website up in the Google ranking is to
have as many others as possible with links to it, so if there are any
members who have sites which are not mentioned on the Club site
please let me know and I will include them. Also, please include a
link to www.orchid-talk.co.uk on your sites :-)

Best wishes,

--

Tricia

Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film.

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From: Tony Garthwaite
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Critter damage.
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008

Hope you got the right 'Critter'!
Tony

Roger Grier wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Critter damage.

> Hi Tony,

> Pay up mate..........I think it was a snail. The only critter that
> I found was a smallish snail of the common garden variety, about
> the size of the nail on my middle finger..........it is now a flat
> snail.....a very flat snail.

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Anybody grow these? Telipogon
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008

Hi all,

Tiny little plant, flower is larger than the plant, grows like a weed here next to my Draculas, likes the air movement and the moist moss.

Jim

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: couple plants I am fond of
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008

Hi all,

These grow great for me with little effort at all.

Jim

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] names...
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

I have been looking this up Orchid Wiz they seem a bit coy about costs, but eventually I got as far as $259 including one year of updates, and after that $90 per year.

I suppose that back in the dark ages, when books were printed on paper using ink , we had to pay for each new batch of names in another of the supplements to our Sanders Orchid Register I can t remember how much we paid. I seem to remember that I sold my complete set of Registers a shelf-full of books for 100 or thereabouts when I saw the digital revolution coming ; and by today s standards the dollar prices mentioned are not way out. But I think I will make do with Wildcatt whatever its limitations , for the moment, anyway.

Geoff

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Epilaeliocattleya 'Don Herman'.
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

Wildcatt has an RSC Don Herman and this is RhyncoSophroCattleya − The
underlying species are 11 different cattleya species − C.dowiana and
C.labiata accounting for more than 50% of the whole. Rhynco digbyana (
which we used to call Brasso digbyana) 4% and Sophro purpurata which we used
to called Laelia purpurata 3%. Such a hybroid has almost go to be
pink/purple !

I said that my plant − and yours − should be RSC, but on further thought and
investigation I am sure it should be MTN − see below.

RSC has not a drop of Epi blood anywhere. Mtn does.

This Mtn is a new one on me − it stands for Mantinara which is an
intergeneric composed of Epidendrum, Cattleya, Sophronitis, & Guarianthe (
Cattleya aurantiaca is now Gur auriantiaca )

The blood lines for Mtn Don Herman are 50% Epi stamfordianum , 25% Gur
aurantiaca, and the rest made up of 6 cattleya species, a chunk of Sophro (
Laelia) cinnabarina and an unknown. This seems so much more likely − all
this cream and yellow and orange colouring coming from more than 75% of the
bloodline.

So Mtn Don Herman you've got − and so have I. So − a new label needed Roger
!

Geoff

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From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Andy's three Cattleyas.
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

Hi Roger

I though it useful to photograph them together to compare the sizes. Queen Sirikhit, the central one is probably my favourite too − it's actually significantly smaller than Angel Bells (left) tough they are very closely related. The dolosa is not looking great because it is nearly over and also I moved it into a different mix earlier on and it really objected..... I think when I get it going properly though it will really be a cracker − flowers a very heavy substance, wonderful perfume which is very different to the others. In form it is very like C walkeriana − very flat and with a somewhat angular look about it.

Andy

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] One new flower, one old friend.
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

Hi there Peter,

Good advice indeed, but in this case it won't do any good as the plant gets plenty of light.

I still think that it is an inherited problem, but I may try something next year.

No doubt you are having some very nice weather.

Cheers, Rocky.

PG Hieke wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] One new flower, one old friend.

> Put the plant farther away from the light to make it stretch toward the light.
> This advise I was given by Robert Fuchs.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Photography.
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

Mornin' all,

My last posting of ELC 'Don Herman'.....the one with the grey background!!!

As my old friend once said.....experiment with different backgrounds, and I will soon buy maybe three more different coloured large sheets of stiff card.

To prove a point, have a good look at the photo, and observe how sharp the edges of the lip look against the 'background' of the dark green leaf. Then see how rather 'unsharp' if there is such a word, that the sepals and petals look against the grey background.

Go on.....have a go at it.

Cheers, Rocky.

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Dates for your diary
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

My Society − Bournemouth − is having a special 2 day show February 21-22
next year , to mark the 50th anniversary. At Carrington House Hotel,
Bournemouth .- more info later.

Geoff

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: RHS orchid Show, London 2009.
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

Hi all,

Does anyone know if a list has been started of the Dealers who will be at the show???

I guess I could have a look at many websites of dealers who might just be there and look at the shows that they say they will be attending, but why should I have to do that?

Let's face it, it is only about seventeen weeks away.

And as Geoff has said many times, the Dealers do need to get in the orders to be able to sort out all of the paperwork/permits etc.

Living in hope, Rocky.

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Something different
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

Hello Everyone,
Here are a couple of my other orchids.
I have had Cymbidium tracyanum since 1996 and it's now 4ft 6in across. I
forgot to photograph it before I put it back in the greenhouse and as
it's too heavy to keep carrying it around, so I took the picture in the
greenhouse.
The Zygo was rescued from somebody's garden!! It was almost dead, just a
small pseudobulb alive. That was 18 months ago and this is the first
flower spike.
David

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From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] couple plants I am fond of
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

Lovely flowers, especially the first one. What is it's name please.
Thanks
Peter Fowler

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Jim's plants.
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

Hi Jim,

When I see plants such as the Telipogon, I always think of some trees that I know of here in my native New Forest, they have branches similar to the ones in your photo.....lots of moss growing on them.....oh if we had warmer winters!!!

And now on to the photos of the Masdevallia and the Dracula. I know a friend who would most probably kill for that Mandeville, and the Dracula is superb.

Can you please take photos that show us the total length of the flower parts.

Kind regards, Rocky.

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RHS orchid Show, London 2009.
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

You may be interested to know that I decided to try and buy a plant of the
Eriopsis biloba you were talking about Roger. After finding where it grows
wild I went to the web-sites of the dealers I could think of who might be
visiting London − as they have been here in the past

Ecuagenera list all their 2009 Shows -but no UK entries appear − they will
be in Santa Barbara at the time of the London Show. They will be at Dresden
- so will I, but that is almost a year away.

Orquivalle ( Andrea Niessen) only go up as far as the end of this year on
their site − but I have e-mailed for info about which shows they are
visiting.

Peruflora seem to have disappeared off the face of the earth.....

Floralia − Brazil − actually outside the area where E.biloba is found − now
seem to work closely with Hans Lucke in Germany − and I have e-maiuled there
for info.

Geoff

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Anybody grow these? Telipogon
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

Now you have us drooling again Jim . This genus is considered to be one of
the most difficult to grow in UK . They just don't like it as dry as ( the
air) gets here.

geoff

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Andy's three Cattleyas.
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

Hello Andy,

So nice to read what you have said about the three Catts. As you and many of our 'Members' will know, I am very hot on 'observation' when it is required. It's only when anyone has a very good look at your three Catts, that they can see there is quite a difference between all of them. Looking at the lip on the left hand one, I can see the resemblance to C. Walkeriana. Can you impregnate a kitchen towel and send me then perfume.......ha, ha.

You said: The dolosa is not looking great because it is nearly over and also I moved it into a different mix earlier on and it really objected.....so what did the mix comprise of that it so hated it? Basalt chippings next ????

Like I keep saying, I have not bought any 'compost' for years, and I doubt if I will ever need any more.

Cheers for now, Rodge.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Don Herman.
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

Evenin' Geoff,

My goodness.....what a mass of names etc. etc. etc. Thanks for all of the research that you have done as it sure shows us all what the renaming of some hybrid Genera has come up with.

The photo that I have posted I got from the Internet, and it was just the type that I wanted to show people. There are others that also show the markings on the petals, and I think I saw one with markings on the sepals.....as in Epidendrum Stamfordianum. Which of course is one of the parents. The other parent being LaelioCattleya Gold Digger.

And that's good enough for me.

I won't be writing a new label, as I am sure that most of us will always call this plant Epilaeliocattleya 'Don Herman'.

What are you going to do?

Thanks, Rodge.

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From: Kenneth Bruyninckx
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RHS orchid Show, London 2009.
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

Roger,

I think you're just a bit too eager to get info :-). we only sent in our
application form some weeks ago!

Can't remember what the deadline for application was right now but I could
have a look in case you're interested.

Kind regards,

Kenneth.

Kenneth Bruyninckx

Akerne Orchids

Laarsebeekdreef 4, B-2900 Schoten, Belgium

tel. +32 (0)3 651 40 36 fax +32 (0)3 653 06 76


www.akerne-orchids.com

Looking for orchid books and magazines? Visit www.orchidbooks.eu


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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RHS orchid Show, London 2009.
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008

On 06 Nov, in article
,
geoff hands wrote:
> You may be interested to know that I decided to try and buy a plant
> of the Eriopsis biloba you were talking about Roger. After finding
> where it grows wild I went to the web-sites of the dealers I could
> think of who might be visiting London − as they have been here in
> the past

> Ecuagenera list all their 2009 Shows -but no UK entries appear -
> they will be in Santa Barbara at the time of the London Show. They
> will be at Dresden − so will I, but that is almost a year away.

Have you contacted Roy Barrow (Royden Orchids), Ecuagenera's agent in
the UK? He would no doubt include one for you in the next 'batch' he
imports.

--

Tricia

The 50-50-90 rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong.

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From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Photography/
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008

Hi Rocky,
I prefer the black one, although it is not right either. The leaves are missing.
The grey one looks too dull.
I think it also depends on the type of light that you use or have. I always
found that full sunlight and black background is best.
I know, sunlight is a problem for you.
Regards
Peter

Roger Grier wrote re: [OrchidTalk] Photography/

> Mornin' all,

> A little discussion on photography.

> The first photo that I put up of Epilaeliocattleya 'Don Herman' was
> the product of about six or seven attempts. Even then I was not
> that satisfied. So this morning I tried again with a different
> backdrop.....coloured grey.

> Now we could chat about different backdrops till the cows came
> home, but my old mate always said that shades of grey were better
> than black. Well, I still think that black is best for the
> majority of photos that we all take, but what are your feelings.

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From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Something different
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008

David,
The condition of the leaves in particular of your plants (and may I add the pots and the bench) are so clean and tidy that I would ask you how many hours per day do you have to spend in your greenhouse tending your plants. How do you stop the leaves browning and dying off? I am forever having to pull off a dying leaf.
Gordon.

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Something different
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008

I have not seen C.traceyanum since Adam retired... I seem to remember the
scent ?
It was − like all cym. species almost impossible to find in UK , but in the
late 1960s before CITES etc., I organised a couple of shipments of
importations of wild collected bare root orchids for members of my orchid
society , and got a big plant of C. Traceyanum as a " bonus" for sending the
order.
The chairman of that Society who has − I hope − been growing orchids in
another place for the last 40 years ( if not he must have been naughty when
I wasn't looking and is frying in yet another place ) was a chap who used to
wax lyrical about some orchids − and traceyanum was one of them − he said it
was "far more orchidaceous" than the (big, not to say massive) standard Cym
hybrids which were then appearing , some of them with flowers 5 or 6 inches
across, and of course a decent plant in a say 12 inch pot ( bring your own
orthopaedic surgeon after carrying into a show ! ) needed a bench space of
at least a metre square, and the spike would top out 1.5m or more above the
bench . Can't quite bring to mind the name of the yellow one I have in mind
- something or other var. ( as we used to said quite incorrectly − should
have been cv. not var. ) Rajah. That kind of breeding destroyed their
interest as far as most amateurs are concerned. Miniature cymbidiums − and
the miscellaneous novelty crosses now seen are another story, of course.And
now cym species are starting to appear . I saw a good yellow C.elegans the
or day.

Z.Mackayii ( or Z.mackaii in some books ) I remember as rather a can of
worms , as far as names are concerned ; lots of controversy over whether
what we were looking at was the "true" Mackayii or any of half a dozen other
things. In fact , whilst composing this message I took time off to go
through the pictures in http://www.orchidspecies.com/ ( Jay's
encyclopaedia) and apart from Z.triste and Z. Maxillare, all of the others
could be thought to be variants on one and the same species. This is just by
looking at the pictures of the flowers of course, they may ( or may not ! )
be more distinct elsewhere .
Z.mackaii was also odd in being so extremely dominant in hybridising that it
was suggested the pollen applied to it never "took" but just resulted in a
4n version of the seed parent. So people kept crossing this and that and the
other on to Mackayii, producing a long series of hybrids e.g. ( from memory)
Z.John Banks ( or was it called Banksii ? ) , Z. Alan Greatwood, etc etc.,
all of which were virtually identical with a good Z Mackayii, except in one
thing ; the "true" plant has a marvellous scent, rather like hyacinths . The
hybrids very rarely had much scent.

Geoff

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RHS orchid Show, London 2009.
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008

Thanks for that suggestion − I have messaged him.

He is a survivor isn't he !
I first met him at a Birmingham & Midland Orchid Society Show in 1963.....(
the first time I ever showed myself , but on a scale so modest as to e nigh
invisible ).

Geoff

Tricia Garner wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] RHS orchid Show, London 2009.

> Have you contacted Roy Barrow (Royden Orchids), Ecuagenera's agent in
> the UK? He would no doubt include one for you in the next 'batch' he
> imports.

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From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Pests
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008

I agree that slugs and snails are the death knell to many orchid blooms but I, sorry my orchids, have been inundated with a plague of greenflies. In one night the little b*****s sucked the sap out of many emerging buds and spikes. The buds succombed in3 to 4 gays and the spikes are deformed although I imediately sprayed with Provado.
Each morning I now give the houses a burst of fly killer to get the 'fliers'.
The garden is alive with the bugs. The only happy group are the Blue Tits.
Is not November a bit late for these pests. Lets put it down to Global warming so I can blame my car.
Today it is SUNNY in North Devon so it is coming to you Roger.
Dennis

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Something different
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008

Hi Gordon,

If it makes you feel any better, all plants loose their leaves at some time or other, especially in our Autumn.

Go and make a nice cup of Kenyan tea and relax and think about it.

Cheers, Rodge.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RHS orchid Show, London 2009.
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008

Hello Kenneth,

I work in mysterious ways.....see, I now know that you are going to be there, so I will give your Catalogue a very good looking at.

Many thanks, Rodge.

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Something different
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008

Gordon,
I don't spend a lot of time tending my orchids, only about 20 minutes every morning spraying the mounted ones and raising the temperature for the day.
The leaves on my species Cymbidiums are nice but the leaves on the hybrids can be untidy and poor. Must be the crosses they endure, producing attractive flowers at the expense of the leaves. I will post my Cymbidium insigne subsp seidenfadennii on the site later. Could have sent it in the Spring but had only just found the club.
David

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Something different
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008

RE: [OrchidTalk] Something differentGeoff,
I got my tracyanum from Arthur at Burnhams. Twisted his arm and bought one of their Mother plants. Cost me £50. Still paying off the loan!! I split my lowianum up a couple of years ago and have two spikes showing so far on the pieces I kept. Such a pity they get so large. There's a nice picture of it in The Orchid Review Sept-Oct 2002 when it was awarded at Chelsea. It was so big it couldn't be taken to the committee room, so they came to the stand to see it. It was approx 2 metres across.
David.

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Something different
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008

Here is the picture of another Cymbidium species. I can see why I didn't
bother sending it now. I had just bought the camera and it's not in
focus etc. Must try harder.
David

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From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Emailing: Sales & Displays
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008

Sales & DisplaysThis last year list may be of use.
Dennis

2008

Lists of 2009 exhibitors will start to appear early in 2009

The Orchid Committee of the Royal Horticultural Society will again meet at the Show

on the afternoon of Saturday, 14th June 2008.

TRADE for 2008

Name Country Email Website
Akerne Orchids Belgium info@akerne-orchids.com www.akerne-orchids.com
Andreas Stockelbusch Germany Stockorchids@aol.com
Bella Vista Orchids &

Mikandra
Brazil

UK
mikandra@tiscali.co.uk
Burnham Nurseries UK mail@orchids.uk.com www.orchids.uk.com
Dave Parkinson Orchids UK
Ecuagenera Ecuador info@ecuagenera.com www.ecuagenera.com
Elsner Orchideen Germany Elsorchids@aol.com www.elsner-orchideen.de
EPRIC Foundation, (Epiphitic Plant Research and Information Centre) Holland epric@worldonline.nl www.epric.org
Floralia

& Hans Lucke
Brazil

Germany
florbra@attglobal.net

kontakt@orchideen-lucke.de
www.floralia.com.br

www.orchideen-lucke.de

In Charm Taiwan incharm@ms6.hinet.net www.incharmorchids.com
KJ Orchids Denmark janhrolv@larsen.mail.dk www.kj-orchids.com
Laneside Alpine & Hardy Orchid Nursery UK www.lanesidealpines.com
Laurence Hobbs Orchids UK
M & M Orchideen Germany info@m-m-orchid.com www.m-m-orchid.com
Mitinoku Orchids Japan mitinoku@galaxy.ocn.ne.jp Google search ask for 2nd LIST to be translated
Ooi Leng Sun Orchids Malaysia ben@aaorchids.com www.aaorchids.com
Orchideen Kopf Germany mail@kopf-orchideen.de www.orchideen-kopf.de
Orchideeën Wubben Netherlands orchidwubben@planet.nl http://orchidwubben.com
Orquideas del Valle Colombia andreaniessen@orquivalle.com www.orquivalle.com
Pazuzu Extreme Flora Netherlands
Plested Orchids UK plestedorchids@aol.com www.orchids-at-plesteds.co.uk
Ray Creek Orchids UK
Rod Jones Flasks UK www.orchidflasks.co.uk
Roellke Orchideenzucht Germany DOG-Zentrale@t-online.de www.roellke-orchideen.de
Royden Orchids UK orchids@royden99.freeserve.co.uk
Ryanne Orchidee France ryanne.orchidee@wanadoo.fr www.orchideeryanne.com
Sun Moon Orchids Taiwan sunmoon.orchids@msa.hinet.net
Water Orchids Taiwan water.orchids@msa.hinet.net www.waterorchids.com
Yang's Orchids Taiwan yangs.orchids@googlemail.com www.yangsorchids.com

National Collections of Orchids NEW for 2008, these exhibitors are recognised by the National Council for the Conservation of Plants and Gardens(NCCPG) as holders of National Collections of Orchids.

Plant Name Collection Holder Email Website
Bletilla R. G. Evenden
Catasetineae M. R. Hopkinson maxhoppycat@aol.com
Dendrobiums D. Menzies gbg@land.glasgow.gov.uk
Maxillaria Dr. M McIllmurray
Pleurothallidinae S. Manning orchidsmann@uwclub.net
Stanhopea R. J. Hartley orchdhartley@bigfoot.com www.foxdale-orchids.co.uk

SOCIETIES/AMATEUR GROWERS etc.

Name Email Website
Bournemouth Orchid Society michaelpowell@hants.gov.uk http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~nroberts/bos.html
British Paphiopedilum Society denise.hosker@virgin.net www.paphiopedilum.org.uk
Cheshire & North Wales O S
johnwarwickstanley@tiscali.co.uk www.cheshireandnorthwalesorchidsociety.org.uk

Darlington Orchid Society maurice.local@ntlworld.com www.communigate.co.uk/ne/dados/index.phtml
Devon Orchid Society rogerandsue@laneroger.wanadoo.co.uk
East Midlands Orchid Society maxhoppycat@aol.com
Fenland Orchid Society morg611@aol.com www.fenland-os.org.uk
Foxdale Orchids orchidhartley@bigfoot.com www.orchidoman.net/Foxdalewebsite
Hardy Orchid Society of GB mtalbot@talktalk.net
Harrogate Orchid Society graham.lawson90@ntlworld.com
Helen Millner hjm@millner.co.uk
Hinkley & District Orchid Society orchids1941@yahoo.com
International Phalaenopsis Alliance www.phal.org
Lea Valley Orchid Society michaelradley@edfenergy.com
Linconshire Orchid Group dm@dsmallman.isnet.co.uk
Mid-Sussex Orchid Society drmariafirth@hotmail.com
North Bucks Orchid Society kate.bellingham@ukgateway.net
NE of England Orchid Society www.ne-orchids.org.uk
North of England Orchid Society NEOSecretary@aol.com http://orchid.org.uk
Orchid Society of Great Britain royjoewhite@hotmail.com http://orchid-society-gb.org.uk
Pleurothallid Alliance − UK dm@dsmallman.isnet.co.uk
Solihull Orchid Society
Southen Counties Orchid Society
Sussex Orchid Group val@micklewright.com
Thames Valley Orchid Society aliniki@ntlworld.com
Wheatleyfield Orchids (Ellis Eyre)

SUNDRIES etc.

Name Email Website
Cedar Leisure Buildings
EarthenWear(jewellery) earthenwear@BusinessMailBox.com www.freewebs.com/earthenwear/index.htm
Janet Orme − Botanical Artist
Just In Glass enquiries@justinglass.co.uk www.justinglass.co.uk
Keith's Plant Books keith@keithsplantbooks.co.uk www.keithsplantbooks.co.uk
MAM Horticulture LaeliaM@aol.com www.mamhorticulture.co.uk
Orchids For You sales@orchidsforyou.co.uk www.orchidsforyou.co.uk
Plants Plus pporchidbits@aol.com www.plantsplus.org
Parwin Heaters (UK) LTD paul@metalspec.freeserve.co.uk www.parwinheatersukltd.co.uk
Printack Contact via website www.printack.com
Roseman Greenhouses Easton Green, Coventry
Simply Control enquiries@simplycontrol.com www.simplycontrol.com
Travena Ltd info@travena.co.uk www.travena.co.uk

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Wants list.
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008

Hi Tricia, Geoff, Kenneth and all,

I have made contact by E-mail with certain Orchid suppliers as to the plants on my Wants List, and in due course I will tell you how I get on.

Thanks for the nudge in the correct direction.

Cheers, Rocky.

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: For sale − Lux meter
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008

Brand new Tenmars TM201 lux meter , here is a link to show which one it is
etc...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Light-Meter-Tenmars-TM-201-Digital/dp/B000S0KYUS

You can have it for the Amazon price £44.99 and post free ( I'll pay that
myself). If you buy from Amazon it will cost you an extra £3 for postage.

Reason , I have the identical one , but mislaid it. ( I had a previous model
for maybe 12 years, which lived in a green canvas satchel ; it failed and I
replaced it with one identical to that shown , which comes in a black case.
But when looking for my meter I had the green canvas in mind and ignored the
black case on my bookshelf , looking exactly like some CD cases on the same
shelf. So I bought the Tenmars one. As soon as I opened the new box and saw
the black case I realised what I had done....

Mail me if interested

Geoff

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