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From: Paul Johnson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Any Ideas Which Bulbophyllum this is?
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008

Rocky could very well be correct. Most of the species of Section
Fuliginosae are difficult to separate on floral images, only. In
fact, Pelser et al. (2000) treated C. ovalis as a synonym of C.
fimbriata, and many of the other species, too. Some of the important
characters that are used for separating the species are vegetative.
Pseudobulb dimensions are useful, i.e. length and width; also, the
distance between the pseudobulbs is useful. What is the approximate
width of the open flower?

Most of the species in the section have flowers open sequentially, one
at a time, with usually only 3-4 per inflorescence. These plants are
usually hysteranthous, so each new growth produces one inflorescence
after maturity of the pseudobulb, and even an older plant will only
bloom off the most recent growths.

> Hey folks,
>
> Looks like Rocky was right. I am going with Coelogyne ovalis.
>
> Anybody grown this I am only getting one flower at a time and the
> plant is pretty large. I would have expected more, I have several
> other species and they flower incredibly.

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: more piccys − a second copy of this mail has Nos 7-11
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008

I have to admit that my collection was rather neglected until recently − I
was doing too many other things. But then I thought it through , and chucked
some interests out of the window so as to get back to my true love, and the
orchids have a lot of TLC since. But that is so relatively recent that
results cannot be seen yet − but on the other hand I am surprised at how
many spikes are pushing up all over the place. Can it be that they really
liked being neglected ?

However, here's a set of pics I took yesterday of things I have not shown
before, or at least not recently.

No 1. Ada aurantiaca x Brassia aucuigera − I expect this has been registered
, but have difficulty in finding the name. I find the RHS hybrid
information search far too user unfriendly to be worth the time − you need
to get the spelling exactly right, and even know which was pollen parent and
which seed parent in the original registration ( and although v-v has the
same grex name, you won't find it if you put it in that way , and this is an
area where labels are frequently in error I find). Wildcatt may help , but I
have never found out how to use it this way round − find the grex name from
knowledge of the parents . v-v its easy, i.e. find the parents from the
grex.

No.2 Onc Iwanogawa − that's the name on the flask − some years ago ; I
assume a hybrid since I can't find it as a species, , but not registered as
such. Must be capable of big branched spikes in view of what I can guess
about the parentage, but my bulbs have never been big enough.

No 3 LC Nuance cv Elegie ( should be an accent over the last letter here -
can't be bothered to search how to show that − so just speak the name aloud
with a French accent. Bred in gay Paree of course − Vacherot & LeCoufle − I
bought this when I visited the French National Collection by invitation to
take tea with Mme V.

Lovely perfume too − the orchid ( not Phillipe's charming wife − well,
maybe she has too , but I don't know her well enough to find out − joke ! )
. Interesting the way the flowers fade from a lovely light green − the
nearer one, just open , to yellow − the further one now open for 2 weeks on
a different growth.

No 4 A dend hybrid ( not rested or anything -it flowers just growing hung
up in my house). I call it "Jim Agg's Ozzie hybrid" − no doubt shots of
kingianum, tetragonum etc in its make-up.

No 5 Bulbo guttulatum ( have seen this spelled variously , and sometimes
with another "ut" syllable dropped in somewhere − the proper name seems to
be as shown − according to Emily Siegerists book. My plant now has 7 or more
growths in maybe a 10 inch pan, and earlier this year had as many spikes all
at once. This is a latecomer, but I was struck by how pretty the small
flowers are.

No 6. Acallis cyanea . A very interesting colour − really a decent violet
blue in some lights. I have had this for a few years and this is the first
spike that I can remember. Very delicate flowers.

No 7. Ceratostylis rubra. One of the South American nurseries brought this
for me to a show a few a couple of years ago ; a scrambly mass with no
particular habit of growth. Couldn't put it in a pot, had never been on a
mount − looked as though it had grown unattached to anything ! I tried just
hanging it up and spraying , but it did not do well. Eventually the few
surviving bits were repotted in Perlite with some grit/pebbles , and
suddenly I have a few flowers. Not large − maybe an inch across − but
interesting.

No 8 Asconopsis Irene Dobkin "Elmhurst var" . A very unusual "phally" -
small flowers − say 3 -4cm, but quite a good branching spike of ( currently)
maybe 20 flowers and buds ; and this on a suffering plant just starting to
recover. It's the only Asconopsis I know − the cross is Phal Doris x
Ascocentrum curvifolium . Leaves can't make up their mind whether they are
supposed to be phally (flat paddle shaped) or asco − long narrow almost
semi-terete .

No 9. Adaglossum Summit "French Town" − a recent arrival from our Italian
friends.

No 10 BLC Green Mul "Orient". Is surely capable of more than two flowers -
in fact a couple of other buds shrivelled ;a second flowering growth has one
flower. Bigger bulbs next year is the need − but cattleyas are so good in
this respect − they tell you how well/badly they are doing just by looking
at the height of the canes/bulbs, and many of mine did better this year than
last , so they are at least going in the right direction.

No 11 − I think I showed this BC Binosa "Wabash Valley" when it first opened
and complained about the green colour, which then was rather olive . Now it
has matured to a better shade, so I snapped it again.

From: Roy Lee
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dendrobium speciosum kalpowar gold X the king
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008

David, if I may offer some advice. Your Den. speciosum is too green. These plants require LOTS of light to flower, just short of leaf burn. They will 99.9% of the time only flower off second year or older canes. You will probably flower you plant next season provided you give it the light. These plants can take many years to flowering maturity and by the looks of your plant it is there now.

Last night a slight frost was forecast, so I put the Dendrobes into a cold greenhouse. I am a little surprised to see flower spikes initiated on the delicatums.

Those brown markings which appear only on the exposed roots on top of the compost..........I am thinking that it may be something to do with the stain from the bark and sunlight. Maybe one day we will find out. As to going to meet its maker, no, no ,no, just give the plant a bit of TLC and I am sure it will be O.K.

Dendrobium speciosums..........there are so many types which show up as different sized bulbs. I well remember a few of them at Wylde Court. Must take a photo or two of mine and send in. But for Christ's sake don't give up on it David. I have been told that they can be a bit irregular when grown in this Country.

From: gavin horne
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: light meters
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008

Hello all, ive just bought a new light meter as the previous one was making readings on its own in a dark room (nackered).My new meter was obtained at a good price from heatmiser ltd on ebay.The problem is the previous one read in footcandles and the new one is in lux, can someoe please tell me the conversion maths from lux to footcandles as i only know the ideal light strength in foot candles,unless someone can tell me some ideal readings for the main light levels ie shady,medium,full etc in lux.Hope you can help!happy growing!
Gavin

From:
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] light meters
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008

(http://www.unitconversion.org/illumination/lux-to-foot-candles-conversion.html)

From: Ed Deckert
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] light meters
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008

You might try Googling it. I Googled "lux to footcandles conversion" and here is one of the links I got − to a calculator!

From: Lynda Coles
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] light meters
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008

From: John J. Rupp
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] light meters
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008

Very approximately 1 footcandle 10 Lux
To calculate yourself, use the equation: /Lux/ x 0.0929 /Foot-candles
/A handy calculator on the internet to either direction can be found at:

From: Max Redman
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Ausie Dendrobes.
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008

Roger,
The majority of Aussie Dens. will stand a few cold nights but it is probably better if they are given some shelter from freezing and very cold winds etc.As they normally flower in the spring time out here you will need to try and emulate that type of climate when the spikes are starting to show. At that time perhaps some heat will be necessary.
Speciosums come in a variety of sizes depending on which type they are. Somewhere I have a chart which details the areas from whence they came and the sizes of the plants or perhaps I should say canes. I shall see if I can locate it and will send you a copy.
Max.

> Especially to our 'Oz' friends, Max, Tony and Roy, and any other
> growers of Dendrobium speciosum and D. delicatum.

> My one large D. speciosum and several delicatums are still
> standing outside in the garden.

> They all look so very good. I see some flower spikes about one
> inch long in some of the delicatums, but what excites me most is
> that I can see just the smallest of 'movement' in the crux of the
> leaves on the speciosum. Just a tiny swelling and a nice light
> green colour.....looks as though it could be the start of a
> flower spike.

> We are having some very nice weather at the moment. Overnight
> temperatures only going down to about 4 Celsius and many nights
> several degrees above that. Some rain forecast for a couple of
> days and then dry again.

> If and when a frost is forecast I can always easily move the
> plants to a non heated greenhouse whenever it is needed.

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] light meters
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008

It is quite straightforward really − foot candles measures light per
theoretical square foot, and lux measures the same intensity of light but in
square meters − and since there are , I think,11.1 square feet in a sq.
Meter, there will be 11.1 times as much light, hence that gives the
conversion factor.

Unfortunately I have mislaid my meter − I shall need it fairly soon when I
do my autun removal of the shade cloth, clean the glass on the inside and
check, dso as to see whether the buibble-pak insulation has discoloured with
age to the point where I need to replace it. I'll have to turn my study
upside down and find it − then will give you some actual lux readings.

From: gavin horne
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: light meters
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008

Many thanks to all who helped with the conversion calculation from footcandles to lux,see you at the BOC!happy growing!
Gavin

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Ausie Dendrobes.
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008

All of your information kindly noted and will be obeyed. As to the chart and details, I am sure that many of us will look forward to having a look at it

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: What's in a name!!!
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008

I could not agree with you more about trying to look up a name. The R.H.S. system I also find not easy to navigate, and also the Wildcat could be made more user friendly.

And before anyone starts lobbing mortar bombs my way, let me just say that i have been used to making 'User Guides' 'Procedure's etc.

I have recently just purchased a new mobile phone, and I can tell you that it might as well be used to light a fire. As the youngsters say, just play around with all of the controls for a couple of days and you will know more than the average 'User Guide' has in it. And sure enough they are correct.

You may remember me getting on my soapbox a few months ago reference the name 'Iwanagara'. I think the guy comes from Hawaii, but I am not sure. Now if anyone has an orchid named after them, the letters 'ara' are tacked on the end. Hence Brownara, or a Smithara. So when an orchid was named after 'Fred' Iwanaga, it should read Iwanaga-ara.

Right then, that's my rant for today, and I have two Iwanaga-ara's just showing a spike, variety 'Apple Blossom'.

From: Alex Scott
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Dendrobium speciosum kalpowar gold X the king
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008

Hello David − looks a a mature and well grown speciosum, try and give it 3
weeks with a night temp of 10C or a bit less this winter and bright daytime
light (difficult I know!) and you should get some blooms. With luck each of
the knobs at the leaf nodes can produce a stem of flowers.
Regards, Alex

> Hello Rocky,
> Here are some photo's of my Dendrobium. It hasn't flowered yet. I have
> had it since 1998 when it was about an inch high. It's now 36 inches
> across with quite strong growths. I hope it might flower next spring, if
> not, it's going in the compost heap.
> As you can see there's last years growth and this years growth.

From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: What is your favorite intermidiate from south America
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008

I am off to Panama in 2 weeks, I am going to Finca Dracula, He has one of the largest if not the largest collection of Orchids for Central and South America. They are mostly Intermediate and cool types.

My question is: What plants from this part of the world are you favorites, which ones on your wish list? When I am there it is hard to decide what to get , part because many are not in flower, so I am going to make a list this time. I am a big fan of Pescatorias, Huntleyas, and of course Draculas and Masdevalias.

I would love to here some MUST haves from all of you gurus out there in cyber space.

From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008

If you have cool and wet conditions then go for Draculas,
Masdevallias, Restrepias and Pleurothallis
Peter

JIM MATEOSKY wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America

> I am off to Panama in 2 weeks, I am going to Finca Dracula, He has
> one of the largest if not the largest collection of Orchids for
> Central and South America. They are mostly Intermediate and cool
> types.

> My question is: What plants from this part of the world are you
> favorites, which ones on your wish list? When I am there it is
> hard to decide what to get , part because many are not in flower,
> so I am going to make a list this time. I am a big fan of
> Pescatorias, Huntleyas, and of course Draculas and Masdevalias.

> I would love to here some MUST haves from all of you gurus out
> there in cyber space.

From: Alex
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008

I would get some of the colour variations of masdevallia coccinea, Jim. Theres whites, orange, yellow I believe and its a medium sized plant with flowers on tall stalks that bulks up quite quickly, probably my masdevallia favourite.
Regards
Alex Scott

If you read this in time, and if its not too far , and if you are dithering
about going , then stop dithering and go.

It's a very colourful little show, some nice orchids on display. The paphs
by DOG ( the German trade ? group) are mind blowing. Not sure I want to grow
them, but that's another matter....

I didn't stay after lunch today − Saturday ( have step-daughter visiting -
have to meet her train and bring her home in time for supper....).

I find I have bought a lot of stuff − mostly in 2 inch pots − seedlings .
Mostly ( 90%) brought for me by pre-order.

Why do European traders think they can price their stuff in Euro's and UK
visitors will know that is what they are doing ? Seems barmy to me. The
comments by lookers were along the lines of " nice plants − but look at the
prices" . I asked, then did the arithmetic ( not too easy at x .815 ) and
even then realised that I did not actually want to buy at that price....

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008

Any Masdevallia fan who has not seen this quarters issue of Orchid Digest ,
should make an effort to see it.,

Can anyone give me the ISBN of the Kew monograph on Phals ? I think it was
Christianson (?) who wrote it.

Am getting interested in the species − you will know who to blame − and
bought 3 or 4 at Dawlish to add to the 2 or 3 I already had.

From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] books
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008

Phalaenopsis : a Monograph by Eric Christenson ISBN-13: 9780881924947 ISBN: 0881924946

> Can anyone give me the ISBN of the Kew monograph on Phals ? I think
> it was Christianson (?) who wrote it.

> Am getting interested in the species − you will know who to blame -
> and bought 3 or 4 at Dawlish to add to the 2 or 3 I already had.

From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] books
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008

Do you mean Eric A Christenson? I don't think that Kew was involved on this.
It was sponsored by the IPA.
Peter

From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] books
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008

Hello Geoff,
Guilty as charged.
The book is " PHALAENOPSIS A Monograph" by Eric A Christenson Timber Press ISBN 0-88192-494-6 It's a revision of Phal species made possible by the support of the International Phalaenopsis Alliance
David

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: BOC Congress
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008

Just had a great time at The BOC Congress at DawlishWarren. This was a comfortable and cosy show in my opinion just the right size to meet people, buy plants and see orchids.
And what great orchids. To my eyes it was the finest exibition of wonderful well grown orchids I have seen. The Paphs and Cattleyas were breath taking.
I await the Orchid Review that reports the RHS awards as they must have had an exceptional judging day.
I hope others that weny also had a good day.
For the BOC organisers this has laid down a marker for the future − Just get the information out earlier on your website so that we may order in advance.
It poured with rain for the 75 mile drive there and the 75 miles back.(O K I know 75 mile in AUS and USA is next door but here it was a near 2hr. drive.)
Dennis

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] books
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008

It seems that it (Christenson on Phallies ) is now out of print, and
although Barnes and Noble ( in the States) still offer it at a very
reasonable $31 , they can't supply.

Of course, anyone here giving up phals, (maybe to grow cooler and save fuel
costs ?) might like to swap their copy for say a first edition of Cribb's
Paphiopedilum monograph , or his Cyprepedium monograph. Or maybe Butterfield
and Cribb on Pleione − since I don't actually grow Cyps or Pleiones....,
there would be a great bargain for you , since both were published at rather
higher prices. Anyone interested, please mail me.

From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] BOC Congress
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008

I could only get there for Sunday afternoon. I'd rather have had a but brighter light in the main area and I did think some exhibitors got a bit of a raw deal tucked away in various nooks of the building − I am not sure if I found it all.

I didn't expect to pick up too much in the way of plants by this time but I did get a few − Akerne always good for a look! As I write this I can smell the Dendrochilum latifolium which is rather a long way away downstairs. I've never been good with Dendrochilums but I couldn't resist this one. Who has any sure-fire tips for growing this one?

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Phalaenopsis.
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008

Geoff mentioned: Of course, anyone here giving up phals, (maybe to grow cooler and save fuel costs ?)

I have mentioned it before, but just in case, here is some useful information that came my way many years ago from a person in Australia. That person said that Phallys will be quite happy through the Winter months with a minimum temperature of 10 degrees Celsius.....AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT TOO WET, AND THAT THE ATMOSPHERE IS ALSO NOT OVERCHARGED WITH MOISTURE.

My Phallys that are in bloom are always brought into our conservatory and I have several there, and these past couple of weeks the temperature has dropped to 10 degrees and even a few degrees below that. But that minimum temperature is only for a few hours.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Pricing of orchids.
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008

Geoff remarked about the pricing of the orchids on sale at the B.O.C. Congress on the European Traders stands.

I feel sure that many will agree, but not me, ha, ha. I bet you knew that was coming.

Sat on the moon looking at our planet, especially Europe and knowing of the E.U. I notice that we use the 'Pound' whereas every other member state uses the 'Euro'. Even our good Irish friends use the Euro.

To be quite correct it does not matter if we use shirt buttons, but we are the odd one out.

For sure, if we did use the Euro, the British people would see instantly on what products we were being ripped off.

From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Dendrobium primulinum
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008

It is just in flower. It's one of those Dendrobiums that must be dry for 4- 5 months.
I stop watering
at the End of April/Beginning of May and start watering when the buds want to break
through,
which is usually in the middle of September.
Peter

From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008

PG Hieke wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America

> If you have cool and wet conditions then go for Draculas,
> Masdevallias, Restrepias and Pleurothallis

From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: pleurothallis sonderana
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008

One of the plants bought from Akerne at the BOC was P sonderana. I already
have one form of this which is different in form and colour − my original is
much shorter with yellow flowers fading to orange. The new one is taller
and lime green as shown in the photo. Does anyone know if these are
regional variations or a mis-labelling or what?

From: Janet Fabricant
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dendrobium primulinum
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008

From: rudolf günnel
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dendrobium primulinum
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008

Your D. primulinum looks lovely it's a very impressive bunch of flowers.
As to the Tillandsias in the background, I took mine inside the house last
weekend due to the forecast of cold weather in middle Europe (snowfall in
some areas).
You must be lucky with your spring and much higher temperatures than here.

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008

Jim, I did not respond as most growers seem to think that Lycastineae are too large and the leaves are difficult to keep perfect.
I grow about 200 Lycaste, Ida and Anguloa and find them very rewarding but I do not know the size of your growing area. I also grow Maxillarias, Trichopillias and am just getting into the Odontoglossum Allaince as they grow cool.
I have just sold my Restrepia collection but they are an interesting genera.
Regards Dennis

JIM MATEOSKY wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America

Just to let you know that we had the first snow of the oncoming winter during the night and that the temperature at midday is still below zero...
Gordon.

From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008

I am going to visit this growerwho has lots of amazing and rare plants so I want to go with a list as I am sure many of the plants I want will not be in bloom. I sent out this request as for help pointing out or pointing to ¨really cool¨ plants that are not common.

From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Winter (for you)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008

Sorry to hear that it went down to 16C last night supposed to be 27C today, and the winds shifted to indicate that the rainy season is going to end early, 6 months of summer headed our way. Pura vida! The Cat Skinneris will be blooming ewarly this year.

> Just to let you know that we had the first snow of the oncoming
> winter during the night and that the temperature at midday is still
> below zero.. Gordon.

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008

Jim, Cool has two meanings. Most Lycastes require 12C as a minimum. Some such as L. cambelliiwant amin of 15C.
My favourite Lycaste species are aromatica, campbellii, x groganii, guatamalensus, lasioglossa, x lucianii, schilleriana and skinneri.
The Ida are andreetae, cinnabarina,cobbiana, costata, dyeriana, grandis, locusta, peruviana and reichenbachii.
Anguloas are brevilabris, cliftonii, clowesii, uniflora and virgialis.
As for Maxillarioa I like grangiflora, sanderiana, striata and if you can find it ubatubana.
Regards and happy hunting

From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk]ORCHID DIGEST
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008

I just received my copy of ORCHID DIGEST and I want to say, to all the Masdevallia fans
that it is a MUST to see, read and own it. It is just superb with pictures and all the
information on growing them.
Peter

geoff hands wrote RE: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America

> Any Masdevallia fan who has not seen this quarters issue of Orchid
> Digest , should make an effort to see it.,

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Some nice blooms.
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008

Number 7 is, Cattleya Mossiae. I do like the yellow stripe in the centre of the veined lip. This plant did have two growths, each with two buds apiece, but I knocked it off the bench $%$£&)(*)_)"$%^)_+)_+*&()£ or words to that effect. The leaves have some markings on them that I will photograph and talk about later.

Number 11, LC. Pink Beauty [My own name]. Two very large blooms, and I look for more improvement next year.

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008

You have previously said that not all of the Lycastiniae are demanding of large space. Which of the ones you list are more moderate in this respect I wonder ?

Dennis Read wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America

> Jim, Cool has two meanings. Most Lycastes require 12C as a minimum.
> Some such as L. cambelliiwant amin of 15C.

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What is your favorite intermidiate from south America
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008

Lycastes campbellii, guatamalensis, groganii and skinneri.
Idas cobbiana, peruviana, dyeriana (hangs down).
There are no Angulos that I know of.
There are quite a lot of Lycaste hybrids that are also small.
Regards. (Roger, I hope you were not flooded out last night

> You have previously said that not all of the Lycastiniae are
> demanding of large space. Which of the ones you list are more
> moderate in this respect I wonder ?

From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Some nice blooms.
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008

From: ema.orquideas Perú
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Some nice blooms.
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008

Hola Rocky:
Nice flowers, congratulations ¡¡¡
Number 3 is, LC. Elisabeth Fulton 'Michel' and still going strong.
This is Cattleya maxima.Is a species, not a hibrid.
Regards
Erica

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Some nice blooms.
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008

All orchids are special , but some are very special . Cattleyas are wait out
ahead of the field , in my opinion.. ( Just don't show me one of the
extremely gaudy ones like Burana Beauty − or (I'll change my mind). Rogers
three are all fine by me, and jolly nice too.

Of course I say that ’cos I've quite a few out or in bud at the moment , and
as it happens, most of my many other very special orchids are not in that
state. But that's the joy of orchids and a mixed collection in particular.
Some 25 years ago, half my collection was miniature cymbidiums ( as we used
to call them, to distinguish from standard cymbidiums ) and they entirely
filled one of the two greenhouses I then had. My wife said that the
cymbidium house looked like a particularly boring field of daffodils without
a bud or bloom in sight , for much of the year. She was right of course . Is
it worth being bored for 9 months in order to be thrilled for 3 months ?
Difficult question. Mind, I wish I had those plants now ( plus of course a
suitable house to grow them in ).

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Woops!!!!
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008

As some people say.........."I never make a mistake"! But of course they do tell lies.

As Erica and Andy pointed out.....it is Cattleya Maxima, and not Mossiae. I bought it as C. maxima, and that is what is on the label, so why I said it was C. Mossiae I will never know.

And of course Erica saw that the numbering had got mixed up. This is something that I had spoken about before. I highlight the three 'thumbnail' photos that I wished to send in reverse order, but when they appear in the message bar they are not always in that order. Something that I will have to work on to get it exactly correct.

Geoff's comments about a mixed collection to me are very true, and his wife's comments are what I heard many years ago. For sure, a mixed collection can give you pleasure the year round, and the 'headache' ha, ha, trying to get it correct for all of then just adds to the enjoyment.

And finally, thanks Dennis for asking if we were flooded out last night. We are very lucky in living on the South coast and in the middle of Southern England. It was the people in the west who got that crazy weather. I could not believe the photos in this mornings paper. Where we live.....if the bad weather comes from the West, it is worn out by the times we get it, and also from the other direction. 'Fingers crossed'.

From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Re: Woops!!!!
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008

> ...As Erica and Andy pointed out.....it is Cattleya Maxima, and not
> Mossiae. I bought it as C. maxima, and that is what is on the
> label, so why I said it was C. Mossiae I will never know.

> And of course Erica saw that the numbering had got mixed up. This
> is something that I had spoken about before. I highlight the three
> 'thumbnail' photos that I wished to send in reverse order, but when
> they appear in the message bar they are not always in that order.
> Something that I will have to work on to get it exactly correct...

I suggest you name the files rather than number them − but then I
would, because it makes it easier for me when preparing them for the
website :-)

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Woops!!!!
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008

I think I can say , without fear of contradiction , that you won't see 21
again, Roger.... it's called a senior moment..

(I'm getting to the point where my senior moments seem to out-number my
non-senior moments ... )

From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Woops!!!!
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008

Geoff it's not the orchid names, it's all the other words that I can screw up. I blame it to the aluminum in the fungicides and not my parents.

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