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From: Lynda Coles
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] SB Plant Invigorator and so on..
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008

chempak 'calcium' formula may be helpful

http://www.gardendirect.co.uk/calcium-nitrate-p-624

available from gardendirect (and many other outlets I expect)
hope this helps.
Lynda

Andy wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] SB Plant Invigorator and so on..

> ...I have not yet managed to track down a source of Calcium nitrate
> − anyone know of a mail order supplier?

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Any Ideas Which Bulbophyllum this is?
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008

Hi all,

Any Idea Which Bulbophyllumthis is?

Thanks as always.

Jim

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From: Esther Koh
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Phal lowii subspecies proboscidioides
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008

Wow, congratulations David!! You really grow Phalaenopsis well.

I have this plant too, but the leaves are much narrower than yours. It lost all it's leaves last year and now it has 3 leaves. Should I give it a dry period?

cheers,
esther

David Martin wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Phal lowii subspecies proboscidioides

> Hello Everyone,
> I think we have totally sorted Phal/Doritis pulcherrima by now, how
> about this one photographed today? Phal lowii, subspecies
> proboscidioides. "the orchid with the hooked nose"
> This is one that gives me a great deal of difficulty in getting it to
> flower. It is deciduous so it loses most of it's leaves during the
> winter. I don't have any trouble growing a new clutch of leaves as shown
> in the last picture. It spikes very easily, having four this year, but
> the spikes are very thin and tend to dry off at the tip.
> Presumably it must get very wet in it's natural habitat due to the
> monsoon, so I spray the plant and spikes with rain water at every
> opportunity. This year I will get four flowers so I am happy as I don't
> normally get any. Phillip Cribb has already asked for the flowers to
> pickle as Kew haven't got any.
> David

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] SB Plant Invigorator and so on..
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008

Calcium nitrate....

Ratcliffes − e-mail Ratcliffe@zoo.co.uk ( or is that out of date ? − if so
try tel; 01962 777372 )

1 kg was £2.95 − plus postage I suppose − in 2007 catalogue.

Recipe is 88gm dissolved in 1 litre water makes saturated solution as stock,
and then if not using a meter, add a teaspoon per litre ( 0.5% solution)
Better to use a meter and make up to say 300 EC , or rather stronger if used
as foliar feed, with very fine spray, and say used alternate months- using
Potassium sulphate (Epsom salts) in the other months in the same way.

Geoff

Ps people like Garden Direct ( Chemico what was) also used to sell
it...what you want is what was called a "drysalter" when Adam taught
gardening at my kindergarten, back in the ancient days, "afore the railway
come" as Bernard Miles used to joke. But I have even seen it as part of a
range of boxed garden chemicals at my ( rather large and posh) Garden
Centre, amongst Bone Meal, Blood and Fish, etc....

Andy wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] SB Plant Invigorator and so on..

> ...I have not yet managed to track down a source of Calcium nitrate
> − anyone know of a mail order supplier?

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From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Any Ideas Which Bulbophyllum this is?
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008

Hi Jim,

Are you sure this is a bulbophyllum? It looks exactly like my coelogyne fimbriata!

Francis

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From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Any Ideas Which Bulbophyllum this is?
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008

I think it is a Coelogyne not a Bulbo. Something like C fuliginosa or that type.

Andy

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Any Ideas Which Bulbophyllum this is?
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008

Mornin' Jim,

It's not a Bulbophyllum.....it's a Coelogyne, and I am almost sure that it is Coelogyne ovalis.

Look it up and see what you reckon.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Jim's photos.
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008

Mornin' Jim,

Your photography does not need hardly any improvement, but I would suggest that you use a tripod, or a monopod, or a nice strong stick, or whatever turns you on. This will keep the camera, or in the case of us 'Old Codgers' our hands still.

And as for putting the image of the Stanhopea last..........I bet it startled a few people. That sudden close up, and the beady eyes staring out at the viewer.

Cheers, Rocky.

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Any Ideas Which Bulbophyllum this is?
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008

It is Coelogyne fimbriata -I have grown it into great masses − an easy
specimen plant.

To check my memory − since I have not had it for 20 years or so , , I looked
at Jay's encyclopaedia − here is a link to his picture which has the colour
unlike anything I have ever seen − the normal colour us as in your pic.- but
otherwise, as you will see, is spot on :-

http://www.orchidspecies.com/coelfimbrata.htm

Geoff

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From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] SB Plant Invigorator and so on..
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008

I think that potassium sulphate should be magnesium sulphate (Epsom salts) and potassium is potassium nitrate is the fertilize that can be a bomb. I use both of them on my palms and bananas.

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From: Tony Watkinson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Any Ideas Which Bulbophyllum this is?
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008

Think you'll find that it's a Coelogyne

Tony

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From: Paul Johnson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Any Ideas Which Bulbophyllum this is?
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008

Jim,
That is not a Bulbophyllum. It is a Coelogyne, and appears to be C.
fuliginosa; definitely of the Section Fuliginosae. Coelogyne
fimbriata is very similar and smaller, but the attached photo compares
the two − C. fimbriata is the smaller one on the upper left, C.
fuliginosa is the larger one. Notice the color, texture, and form of
the petals, sepals, tip of column and epichile.

Paul

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From: John J. Rupp
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] SB Plant Invigorator and so on..
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008

Geoff,

Re: your comment "Potassium sulphate (Epsom salts)"

Do you really mean potassium sulfate or Epsom salts? Epsom salts are
magnesium sulfate.

John R

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Phal lowii subspecies proboscidioides
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008

Hello Esther,
I find this Phal easier to keep when mounted. Some of these plants from Myanmar are very difficult. Now we are coming into our winter I will gradually reduce the water sprayed onto the plant. I spray every morning with very weak fertilizer all through the summer and maybe a couple of times during the day if I am home. This year I wrapped a layer of sphagnum all over the roots to try and keep them wet all day. This proved successful as the spikes produced some flowers, there should have been more so I haven't cracked it yet. Sphagnum has an antiseptic effect on the roots so they don't mind being wet. Once the flowers die off I will remove the moss and spray the roots every morning, reducing this to a very light misting in the Winter. Try to keep a few leaves on the plant. Don't let it dry out too much or the roots will desiccate and die. So, it never gets a dry period, just a rest with enough misting to keep a few leaves.
Regards,
David

Esther Koh wrote RE: [OrchidTalk] Phal lowii subspecies proboscidioides

> Wow, congratulations David!! You really grow Phalaenopsis well.

> I have this plant too, but the leaves are much narrower than
> yours. It lost all it's leaves last year and now it has 3 leaves.
> Should I give it a dry period?

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] SB Plant Invigorator and so on..
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008

You are 100% right about magnesium , not potassium ( Epsom salts) of course
Jordan − it must have been a 'senior moment' on my part.

But calcium nitrate must be calcium nitrate.

I have never used pot.nitrate, so can't comment. But when I started using
Calcium nitrate the width of the new leaves on my phal seedlings doubled -
just like that ( within about 5-6 weeks of starting). In fact I saw leaves
growing, which were say 1 inch wide, and then, half way along had a step in
them, when they had started growing at 2 inches wide, so that those leaves
which were only half grown when I started were a funny shape. ( Which I
could put up with, since subsequent growth continued strong ) Most odd , but
if anyone wants a demo of the value of this fertiliser, just try it

Geoff

jns tropic wrote RE: [OrchidTalk] SB Plant Invigorator and so on..

> I think that potassium sulphate should be magnesium sulphate (Epsom salts)
> and potassium is potassium nitrate is the fertilize that can be a bomb. I
> use both of them on my palms and bananas.

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From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Piccys
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008

One name is not correct. It should be Stanhopea wardii and not Stanhopis.
Peter

JIM MATEOSKY wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Piccys

> Hi,

> I was wandering around my greenhouse with my Camera, This is some
> of what is in bloom. I think I got the names right but in this
> ever changing naming world.... The Rodriguezia has me a little
> stumped though It was sold to me as Secunda but haven't been able
> to confirm that.

> I know I need to work on my photography I really need a nice
> stand/background to place them so there is not so much background
> distractions...

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From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Plant invigorators
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008

Can I suggest that for my benefit and any others interested that those with the experience put quantities into their text so that it can be more fully explained please?
Gordon.

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Plant invigorators
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008

Here is the mixture that I use for my Phals. Ten small spoons
Peters 20,20,20 two and a half small spoons calcium nitrate two
and a half small spoons magnesium sulphate (Epsom salts). I grind it
all together in a pestle and mortar and put it in a plastic
container. I feed at about 500 microsiemens for Phals in pots and
about 150 microsiemens for mounted Phals. It seems to work as I get
lots of spikes and the leaves are very healthy and shiny. I am always
being accused of using leaf shine, but I have never used it. David

Gordon Walker wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Plant invigorators

> Can I suggest that for my benefit and any others interested that
> those with the experience put quantities into their text so that it
> can be more fully explained please?

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Piccys
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008

Thanks Peter

PG Hieke wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Piccys

> One name is not correct. It should
> be Stanhopea wardii and not Stanhopis.

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Plant invigorators
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008

David,

This sounds similar to Geoffs "Brew". For those of us that are not chemists what is a microsiemen? or more important how much water ?

I am also surprised that you feed less to the mounted plants why? I generally feend the Bare rooted plants more.

Jim

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From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Plant invigorators
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008

Thank you, most informative and#useful.
Gordon.#
#
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David Martin wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Plant invigorators

> Here is the mixture that I# use for my Phals.##

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Any Ideas Which Bulbophyllum this is?
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008

Mmh......

When I said C. Fimbriata for certain I must admit that C. fuliginosa is not
in my memory bank. The one I know as fimbriata has flowers say 3-4 cm
across, and a darkish yellow/brown. Maybe I grew fuliginosa − but it was
labelled as fimbriata ?

It is so easy to be 'definite' , based on the label of the plant one grew !
and maybe that label was wrong....

I guess the size of the flower, and the real colour , will enable you to
have a more informed guess, Jim.

Geoff

Paul Johnson wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Any Ideas Which Bulbophyllum this is?

> Jim,

> That is not a Bulbophyllum. It is a Coelogyne, and appears to be C.
> fuliginosa; definitely of the Section Fuliginosae. Coelogyne fimbriata is
> very similar and smaller, but the attached photo compares the two − C.
> fimbriata is the smaller one on the upper left, C. fuliginosa is the larger
> one. Notice the color, texture, and form of the petals, sepals, tip of
> column and epichile.

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From: John J. Rupp
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Some piccys
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008

Geoff's pics a few days ago, posted on 10/7/2008, of his Brassidium
reminded me that I had one blooming which looks so much like his, but
with a different varietal name. I include it here along with a couple
other pics.

1. *Brassidium Shooting Star 'Black Gold' − *The flowers are about 4.5
inches high and have a very light fragrance. The petals and sepals of
the flowers have a much more golden color than in the picture.

2. *cf Brassia ??* − I bought this unlabeled plant out of bloom and
reduced in price not quite two years ago, because I thought the
pseudobulbs looked interesting and somewhat different from any that I
had at the moment. It is now blooming with two spikes. I originally
had them staked straight up, but when the first flower opened, I managed
to get one reoriented in a better horizontal direction. The flowers are
a bit over 8 inches high and have a light spicy fragrance. I would
appreciate any suggestions for its name. It appears to be a Brassia,
perhaps Brassia Rex?

3. *Brassavola cucullata* − I have had this one hanging around on a cork
plaque for 5 years and this was its first flower. I have no idea what I
did differently this time, but it produced this one flower.

4. *Lockhartia oerstedii* − I have had this plant also 5 years and it
has bloomed for the past three years. The flowers are small, about 1.5
inches high, but the nice buttery yellow color, long lasting flowers are
quite pleasant. There are about 8 growths, 12 to 14 inches long, that
have clusters of flowers like those pictured.

Again, any suggestions for identity of #2 will be appreciated.

Thanks,

John R

--
Dr. John J. Rupp
Emeritus Professor of Chemistry
St. Lawrence University
Canton, NY 13617

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From: Paul Johnson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Any Ideas Which Bulbophyllum this is?
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008

Geoff,

As I believe that you have often stated with Paph's, etc., there is a
tremendous amount of mislabeling going on in the horticultural world.
Some is deliberate laziness on the part of vendors, some is
inadvertent error that gets transmitted through various hands, and
some is just based on original misidentification. Thus, monographs
and other accurate treatments are essential references, as are
trustworthy plant sources. If it were not for Dudley Clayton's book
synopsizing the Coelogyne species, most of us would still be in a
netherworld of misidentifications. For those of us that really do
want to know what things are then names are absolutely essential and
greatly frustrating when found to be incorrectly used; witness the
pages of this discussion list, and others, that are legend with
inquiries about orchid names! And, for those amongst us that
actually think that longterm ex-situ "conservation" of species can be
done in widely disbursed greenhouses, then accuracy of naming is
essential. With regard to these two Coelogyne species and others, I
find it necessary to be on constant guard because incorrect or
questionable name use of these two is very common, at least on this
side of the Big Pond − common offerings on e-Bay are excellent
examples of incorrect name use, inadvertent or otherwise.

Paul

On Oct 17, 2008, at 5:15 PM, geoff hands wrote:

> Mmh......
> When I said C. Fimbriata for certain I must admit that C. fuliginosa
> is not in my memory bank. The one I know as fimbriata has flowers
> say 3-4 cm across, and a darkish yellow/brown. Maybe I grew
> fuliginosa , but it was labelled as fimbriata ?
> It is so easy to be ’definite' , based on the label of the plant one
> grew ! and maybe that label was wrong....
> I guess the size of the flower, and the real colour , will enable
> you to have a more informed guess, Jim.
>
> Geoff
>

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From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Some piccys
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008

NIce pics John, I especially like the Brassavola. I have recently bought B perrinii − I hope it does not take 5 years......... I think your Brassia is possibly B Arania Verde − flowers about 8 in long, smells honeyish and it is very vigorous. The attached is mine from last year. The flowers are very brittle though so it never gets to a show with me.

Andy

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: recent piccys and comments...
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008

Brassidium Shooting Star. The difference in colour could be down to age of
flower as well as clone. My plant was in advanced bud in early September and
the flowers fully out when I came back from holiday at the end of the third
week, but I did not take it's picture until immediately before I posted
(7th October) and I think my flowers aged gracefully ( like some here I am
too modest to mention) to a better golden colour.

Brasso cucculata or cucullata . I think this is lovely ; one I had missed
off my list of wants since it is relatively few-flowered , I understand, but
maybe I will reconsider now. Thanks for showing this John.

Lockhartia oerstedii . It must be nearer 50 than 40 years since I grew this
, but I only remember mine as having flowers singly, here and there, along
the length of the curious growths. Never in clusters, which makes it much
more worthwhile. Or perhaps I had a different species. But I'll look out for
this one.

Brassia ? I would be very hesitant to put a grex name on this ; I have grown
B.Rex, and several other Brassia hybrids as well as maybe half a dozen
species, and I would be hard put to separate them unless I actually had
them in flower at the same time, and could look at them side-by-side. I
certainly would not write a label for one of my own plants , at least beyond
the word Brassia if the original label had become illegible. But then − as
long as the label is used for your own identification where's the harm in
calling it whatever you want ?

Geoff

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Plant invigorators
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008

Hello Jim,
Sorry for the delay in answering your query but that was due to my soaking some fertilizer overnight to get you a reading of the strength.

I put a 5ml measure into 4.5 litres of water and got a reading of 1700 microsiemens. You can work out from that how much water to dilute it by to give you whatever strength you need. Cymbids about 500mS, Odonts about 300mS, Phals about 500 mS etc.

A microsiemen is a measure of electrical conductivity, so the more fertilizer you add to the water the higher the reading. Why not look on Google and see what price a TDS meter, (Total Dissolved Solids) would cost you, they're not very expensive in the American market, but fairy expensive here.

I feed less to my mounted plants because the get it every day. In their natural element they don't get a dollop of fertilizer every week but a low amount from detritus and bird faecies washing down the tree trunks. After all, the water evaporates from my plants during the morning leaving a fine film of salts on the roots which would burn them if it was stronger. It would need to be washed off with rain water quite often to prevent this.

As you say, my feed is similar to Geoff's, it's just applied "little and often".

Hope that answers your qustions.

David

JIM MATEOSKY wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Plant invigorators

> David,

> This sounds similar to Geoffs "Brew". For those of us that are not
> chemists what is a microsiemen? or more important how much water ?

> I am also surprised that you feed less to the mounted plants why?
> I generally feend the Bare rooted plants more.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Ausie Dendrobes.
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008

Hi all,

Especially to our 'Oz' friends, Max, Tony and Roy, and any other growers of Dendrobium speciosum and D. delicatum.

I need some advice.

My one large D. speciosum and several delicatums are still standing outside in the garden.

They all look so very good. I see some flower spikes about one inch long in some of the delicatums, but what excites me most is that I can see just the smallest of 'movement' in the crux of the leaves on the speciosum. Just a tiny swelling and a nice light green colour.....looks as though it could be the start of a flower spike.

So, our 'Oz' members, what to do next.

We are having some very nice weather at the moment. Overnight temperatures only going down to about 4 Celsius and many nights several degrees above that. Some rain forecast for a couple of days and then dry again.

If and when a frost is forecast I can always easily move the plants to a non heated greenhouse whenever it is needed.

Cheers for now, Rocky.

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Phalaenopsis heiroglyphica
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008

Hello Everyone and Esther,
Here's the latest to flower, Phalaenopsis heiroglyphica. It looks
slightly different to the one Esther showed a few weeks ago.
David

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Brassias.
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008

Hi Andy and John,

Andy, that sure is a very nice plant, and what I like about it is the compact habit that it shows, apart of course from the wonderful flower spikes. Must be down do good WCA, aka West Country Air.

John, I had my observers hat on when I looked at your Lockhartia. I guess that the very nice clay flower pot that it is growing in, with the large slots in the side are very easily to come by on your side of the pond????

Cheers, Rocky.

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] recent Brassia pics
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008

My guess would be Brassia arcuigera
http://www.orchidspecies.com/brasarcuigera.htm

These grow like weeds here and the Ticos say Yes it is an Orcid but it is "Monte" a slang word for a weed. The good news with that is they are "poached" much less often.

Jim

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From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: B O C Congress
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008

My computer suffered a spasm and I had to buy a new one and so I could not comment earlier on your statements concerning the Devon Orchid Soc. The British Orchid Council arrange all aspects of the Congress. The Devon Orchid Soc. are requested to organise the door entry control, any portering required by vendors or showing societies and stewards.
All Web Sites are controlled by the BOC. All invitations to Vendors, Speakers, Judges and Exibiting Societies are issued by the BOC.
This is the case at ALL BOC Congresses so please do not criticise the hosting society. We are just the Hewers and Carriers.
Dennis.
PS I am Stewarding on Sunday and introducing Dr. Henry Oakeley

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From: Tony Watkinson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Ausie Dendrobes.
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008

Hi Rocky

The more sunlight they get the better they flower, but ours flower in the spring, so think about that!! Your Den speciosum thinks that it is in an Aust. spring not an English autumn!! (Which says something about your English summer, but I won't go there).

What to do next?? Tricky!! What I do here is leave them out in full sun until the spikes are well on their way then, as the weather gets hotter (!!) I put them under cover to protect them from too much sun!!

In your situation, I guess you can only play it by ear, and, as you have said, don't let the frost get to them.

Your Den speciosum must only be a small one if you are able to move it. (Says he with tongue planted firmly in cheek)

Tony

Roger Grier wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Ausie Dendrobes.

> I need some advice.

> My one large D. speciosum and several delicatums are still standing
> outside in the garden...

> So, our 'Oz' members, what to do next.

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From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Query
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008

David,
The photos of your latest phallys appear to show no medium in the pot around the roots unless your plants are mounted and put in the pot for the photo. There appears to be media or#part of the mount or something#at the top of the pot.
Gordon.##

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] B O C Congress
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008

I should be glad if you would convey my apologies to your club, then. No slander/libel intended # especially if it doesn#t apply. However I do point out that the words #hosted by Devon OS# appear in connection with the event. If you host it, you have to take the flak if its a poor do !

However I must observe that my invitation to attend came from the Registrar # presumably a Devon member even if wearing a different hat . And that my receipt for money came from the same person at the beginning of the year .

So far # and the Congress is now only 4 days away ! your club Chair has totally ignored my message pointing out that no-one # but no-one, has ever given me any more information whatsoever. OK # she is/you are not responsible, despite hosting. Mind you , if it were my club, and someone asked me such an important question so close to the event, common courtesy would lead me to reply, but there it is , obviously some people have a different idea of courtesy to others.

Also I wrote to Mrs Emery # Registrar, on 12th October sending a cheque for Buffet and Preview tickets and again pointing out that I have received no information at all # and had no reply, no tickets, no info.....

I intend to attend # a kind member of this group # not a part of the organising committee ( can they possibly be called that ? why not disorganised committee ? ) has told me the starting time for the preview and if no-one knows anything about the lack of information sent to a registrant despite taking my money, I intend to do a bit of shouting about what a rotten organisation it must be # waving my photo-copies....my object is to shame someone − they don#t seem able to do that themselves !

Geoff

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] B O C Congress
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008

Mornin' Dennis,

Well said mate, well said. That's firmly sorted that one out.

As to your statement...PS I am Stewarding on Sunday and introducing Dr. Henry Oakeley.

I have only 'bumped into him' twice, once was enough!

Cheers Rocky.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Root markings.
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008

Mornin' David,

Your Phalaenopsis heiroglyphica. I observed the roots on top of the compost, just one of them. It had very similar markings to many that I have seen over the years that were potted in bark.

The root that I am talking about is central in the pot, just above the left hand flower of the three.

You can see that it has a tan/brown marking on it. Now I have seen this so many times. I doubt if it does any harm, but I have always been interested to know why some roots show this discolouration. Have you got any thoughts on it???

Cheers Rocky.

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: BOC Congress
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008

Very belatedly I feel, I have at last heard − for those interested − see
below :-

Dear Colleague

Please find attached the details of the forthcoming Congress Timetable and
List of Exhibitors.

These details are available also on the BOC Web site at
www.british-orchid-council.info from where you can view, download and print
the files.

We look forward to seeing you at the Congress on 24th October.

On behalf of the Organizing Committee

Yours sincerely

Sue Lane

Congress Secretary

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From: Esther Koh
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Phalaenopsis heiroglyphica
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008

Hi David,

Thanks for your photos. Yes, yours looks different in terms of colour and shape.

Here's a photo of mine taken a few days ago.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f359/rockhop/IMG_7375b.jpg

cheers,
esther

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From: Esther Koh
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Phal lowii subspecies proboscidioides
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008

Hi David,

Mine is also mounted, on a fern slab with some sphagnum. There is no winter here, but I'll gradually reduce the water from November till January and stop feeding during this time.

Hopefully, I'll get some flowers next year.

Cheers,
esther

David Martin wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Phal lowii subspecies proboscidioides

> Hello Esther,
> I find this Phal easier to keep when mounted. Some of these plants
> from Myanmar are very difficult. Now we are coming into our winter I
> will gradually reduce the water sprayed onto the plant. I spray every
> morning with very weak fertilizer all through the summer and maybe a
> couple of times during the day if I am home. This year I wrapped a
> layer of sphagnum all over the roots to try and keep them wet all
> day. This proved successful as the spikes produced some flowers,
> there should have been more so I haven't cracked it yet. Sphagnum
> has an antiseptic effect on the roots so they don't mind being wet.
> Once the flowers die off I will remove the moss and spray the roots
> every morning, reducing this to a very light misting in the Winter.
> Try to keep a few leaves on the plant. Don't let it dry out too much
> or the roots will desiccate and die. So, it never gets a dry period,
> just a rest with enough misting to keep a few leaves.
> Regards,
> David

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Query
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008

Gordon,
I see what you mean, I had to go to the greenhouse to see why. The phal is potted in my normal mixture of cork pieces etc but the bottom of the pot has some large pieces of polystyrene. The roots have filled the space and the compost can't be seen.
David

Gordon Walker wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Query

> David,

> The photos of your latest phallys appear to show no medium in the
> pot around the roots unless your plants are mounted and put in the
> pot for the photo. There appears to be media or part of the mount
> or something at the top of the pot.

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Root markings.
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008

Hello Rocky,
The brown root is even more brown that before. It's obviously off to meet it's maker. It's got too dry and dying off. It's one of the very old ones.
David

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Dendrobium speciosum kalpowar gold X the king
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008

Hello Rocky,
Here are some photo's of my Dendrobium. It hasn't flowered yet. I have
had it since 1998 when it was about an inch high. It's now 36 inches
across with quite strong growths. I hope it might flower next spring, if
not, it's going in the compost heap.
As you can see there's last years growth and this years growth.
David

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Phalaenopsis heiroglyphica
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008

Hello Esther,
I prefer your plant to my one. The wider petals are nicer.
David

Esther Koh wrote RE: [OrchidTalk] Phalaenopsis heiroglyphica

> Hi David,

> Thanks for your photos. Yes, yours looks different in terms of
> colour and shape.

> Here's a photo of mine taken a few days ago.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f359/rockhop/IMG_7375b.jpg

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Any Ideas Which Bulbophyllum this is?
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008

Hey folks,

Looks like Rocky was right. I am going with Coelogyne ovalis.

Anybody grown this I am only getting one flower at a time and the
plant is pretty large. I would have expected more, I have several
other species and they flower incredibly.

Jim

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