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22—30 September

From: Lynda Coles
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: pics
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008

hello all,

pictures of Phal borneensis and d. pulcherrima, two small species now flowering, also dtnps. purple martin (a fairly recent aquisition, just opened bud)

regards,
Lynda

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] test − are we still alive?
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008

Personally I'm in Russia...

Will talk more when home again

Geoff

JIM MATEOSKY wrote on 12 September re: [OrchidTalk] test − are we still alive?

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Spiking of Phalaenopsis and other plants.
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008

David commented on how he has so many spikes showing on his Phalaenopsis.

The reason for this, as I see it, and have done for so many years, is the wonderful difference between the high temperatures of our Autumn, and the low temperatures that we begin to get with much moisture on the grass so to speak.

So there.....what do you say???

Regards, Rocky.

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From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] pics
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008

Lynda,
My antivirus scan advises that one or more of your pics has a virus attached.
Can you please send them again as it may just be a blip?
Gordon.
#
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From: Lynda Coles
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] pics
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008

Hi Gordon,
#
I took the photographs yesterday and, since your message here, I have done a complete scan of my systems and there are no problems. I expect that there are#programmes in place at 'orchid-talk' to pick up malware etc. so it is likely that it is indeed a 'blip'. I will send the attachments again but to your private mailbox this time.
#
regards,
Lynda.

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From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Spiking of Phalaenopsis and other plants.
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008

Hello Rocky,
Welcome back, where have you been? It's been very quiet, no chatter. Now as to the Phal's, I seem to remember saying that they were very early spiking. That's the ones that normally flower in the Spring. Phal schilleriana has completed the spike but no buds showing yet. I thought the reason was the lack of sun this year. Presumably they use the daylight intensity and day length to know when their Autumn comes.
David.

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From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] pics
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008

Hi Lynda

Nice pictures − I especially like the P borneensis. There's not much
available on the net about it I'd be interested in some information and a
pic of the whole plant with the flowers.

Andy

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: after deflasking − how long before- fert. repotting...
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008

Hi all,

I have several different Oncidiums Hybrids, Miltasias, Odontoglossomm hybrids... from Taiwan. They have been out of the flask in trays for 30 or
so days now, the roots are growing nicely, they are 4 inches tall, but
real skinny not much else.

When do you move them up? into small pots? start fertilizing? fungicide? so many questions..... Is it by the roots and how they are doing or by the size or ....

Once I get them in pots and out of the trays I breathe easier. For me
it is real difficult in the trays wehn the just come out of the flasks.
it is difficult controlling the water humidity, just in general keeping the little guys alive....

Any advice,thoughts at all would be helpful.

Jim Mateosky

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: The two pot system
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008

Thought you might be interested in this. See pic. This is a leaflet which
came today in a box of plants I bought from our Italian friends. Superb
plants − and reasonably priced too − I do recommend them, and they have such
an interesting list.

Some of the plants looked like the pic − ( vandaceous species − e.g.
aerangis, that kind of thing). Grown in net pots, with their roots escaping
through the net , but being confined to some extent by the ordinary pot. In
other words they had been grown in the two pots. It makes sense − so simple
really . Give the roots the air they need, but stop them spreading for
miles. ( Watering today I had to handle a Rhynostylis unflowered − near FS
seedling, hanging in my greenhouse, with two roots as thick as a pencil (
the wood, not just the lead ! ) that were more than 2 feet long. In order to
avoid damage, I had to dunk in a dustbin of water ! ( No way could I ever
take the plant to a show, or even the plant table).

But this way , that will be avoided and the plant will stay mobile.

What a good idea !

Geoff

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Box of Orchids from Italy.
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008

Mornin' all,

If my computer was out of action, or if shall we say I had broken my wrist, I would ask someone else to send my message.....and what a coincidence.....Geoff has just done that very thing.

As you can see from the photo of the package, I also have just recieved some orchids from Italy, last Friday to be correct. Six plants for me, and four for my friend.

All packed to such a high degree, and once again such wonderful plants.

So what are you waiting for !!!!!

Cheers, Rocky.

I will in the future tell you why I have been so silent.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: M-M Orchideen, Germany.
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008

Mornin' all,

Can anyone please tell me what they think of 'M-M Orchideen' [Germany].

Have you had any dealings with them?

Have you bought any plants from them?

I have E-mailed them TWICE. And NO REPLY.

To me that sends out a message saying......'We are not that much bothered if we do any trade or not'.

And all I asked was, what size the plant was, and had it flowered?

Cheers, Rocky.

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] M-M Orchideen, Germany.
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008

I have , and have usually been satisfied ; but that has been from Shows.

I think that if you were to write in German, you might get a reply. Not
everyone speaks English , although so many do nowadays that it is easy to
forget other people have their own languages.

A couple of weeks ago in Sweden I was told that you look at someone ( a
Swede) and if under 40 you can talk to them in English. If over 40 then
Russian is more likely to be successful , and this holds true across all
Northern Europe !

geoff

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] M-M Orchideen, Germany.
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008

Mornin' Geoff,

I'm still not satisfied even after your nice reply. I do speak a little German and did E-mail them in both languages, so I still smell a rat.

Maybe someone else will come up with the answer.

By the way, there website has about four different country flags shown......................so they should be able to answer in four languages.

I live in hope.

Regards, Rocky.

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: how to succeed with Angraecums...
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008

I do very well with the little ones − A.didieri, compactum, jacksonii etc
which grow into clumps , and flower

, sometimes even twice a year..

But the big ones − sesquipedale, eburneum, Magdalenae − they just sit on the
bench ( or hang

in the roof) for year after year and they don't even grow, never mind
flower.

All in the same conditions − intermediate/warm, etc etc.

Any advice on how to succeed with them, anyone ?

Geoff

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Welcome back
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008

Geoff,

Welcome back! How was your trip? Black or white tie?

Last time we talked we we talking about your fertilizer mix adding calcium nitrate. How often to you apply fertilizer?

Do you ever boost the potassium to encourage flowering?

Thanks,
Jim

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From: Esther Koh
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Seed pods
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008

Wow! Congratulations David!!

My P. appendiculata croaked :(

esther

David Martin wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Seed pods

> Hello Gordon,
> I have managed to pollinate four seed pods. How do I know when they are
> ready for removal from the plant? Presumably when they start to split,
> or are they better as green pod. Any ideas please.
> David.

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From: rudolf günnel
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] M-M Orchideen, Germany.
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008

Hello Rocky, hello Geoff,

I don't know why Mr. Wolf (M&M orchids) hasn't replied so far.
Either there is a problem with his e-mail account or he is just busy. There
are many orchid shows this autumn here in Germany and I know he was running
a vendor's stand at least at the shows this weekend (Ingolstadt) and the
weekend before (Esslingen).
Although not every German speaks English I'm pretty sure Mr. Wolf is able to
read English e-mails and write a reply in English.
But let me make this proposal to you Rocky.
Please forward your enquiry to M&M to my e-mail address and I will try to
call Mr. Wolf in the next days and hopefully he will give me the details you
are waiting for.

Best regards from Germany, rudolf

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Welcome back
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008

Great trip − pity about the weather ( it got darker and colder every day
after passing through the Kiel Canal, into the Baltic Sea) but it was just
what I needed − plenty of time to sit and think , and come to conclusions -
my life had got rather clogged with too many interests − I even thought of
giving up orchids . But sanity prevailed, and a lot of other stuff has got
chucked out so that my orchids can get the TLC they deserve, and need, and
they looked better as soon as I went into the greenhouse and told them about
this. No less a person than our next King ( Prince Charlie) says you should
talk to your plants , and who am I , a mere commoner , to disregard that !

Feeding. I use the same concentration of fertiliser mix every time I water.
But I do occasionally do an experiment, and flush a plant with pure water,
no fertiliser at all , and then collect the last drips from the pot and try
them with the EC and pH meter . This gives a good impression of what it is
like in the pot. If I put in pH6 water, and the last drips are pH 4.5 , it
must be very acid in there, etc. This is the clue for remedial treatment ,
or maybe repotting. But otherwise, its the same mix every time.

I don't use potassium at all , except of course that it is in much of the
fertiliser mixes that I use.

Geoff

JIM MATEOSKY wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Welcome back

> Geoff,

> Welcome back! How was your trip? Black or white tie?

> Last time we talked we we talking about your fertilizer mix adding calcium
> nitrate. How often to you apply fertilizer?

> Do you ever boost the potassium to encourage flowering?

> Thanks,
> Jim

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: for Gordon
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008

Have you thought of practising your flasking technique by trying stem
propagations ( phalaenopsis) ? Its more or less the same, except that you
use pieces of the flower stem − fairly obviously you use the bits where
branches might have developed, but didn't. I had a friend some years ago who
did a lot of that − he used to come to the orchid society and beg old spikes
of interesting plants − just the flower spike − and he said that he got a
flowering size plant in half the time as from seed. We also discussed the
possibility of using similar unused branch buds on spikes of other genera ,
since the switch from flower bud production to new plant production ( in
phals) is helped along by hormones, and whilst phals do sometimes produce
keikis on flower stems themselves, lots of other plants also produce keikis,
so it may be possible with a bit of hormone paste. I don't know f he ever
followed that up − have lost touch since moving house some years ago.

Just a thought for you.

Geoff

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From: John J. Rupp
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [?? Probable Spam] [OrchidTalk] how to succeed with Angraecums...
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008

Hi Geoff,

You say Angraceum Magdalena is a big one? Mine has never gotten more
than about 9 inches tall. Blooming is another story. I have had it for
about 12 years and it bloomed once or twice about 5 or 6 years ago, then
bloomed last year and this spring again. I had A. Veitchii for about 25
years and it was fantastic. It grew well, multiplied, and I gave away
many divisions. It bloomed every year like clockwork in January.
Notice, I did say that I "had" one. It gave up the ghost a few years
ago, no idea why.

Virtually all my orchids get the same treatment. Either in the basement
under fluorescent lights at 62 deg F in the winter or upstairs in the
house where the temp varies from 58 F at night to 68 F during the
daytime. During the summer, mid June to late September, they are
outside in a screened structure with a lathe roof. Right now all except
the Phals, just finished bring them in, are still outside, and we have
had a number of nights in the low 30's with frost.

My A. Magdalena is still outside. The Veitchii, when I had it, had the
same treatment. Its light level was quite low and it received no
sunshine during the winter. It is not what I would have preferred, but
was all I could do.

John R

geoff hands wrote:

> I do very well with the little ones -- A.didieri, compactum, jacksonii
> etc which grow into clumps , and flower, sometimes even twice a year..
>
> But the big ones -- sesquipedale, eburneum, Magdalenae -- they just
> sit on the bench ( or hang in the roof) for year after year and
> they don't even grow, never mind flower.
>
> All in the same conditions -- intermediate/warm, etc etc.
>
> Any advice on how to succeed with them, anyone ?

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] how to succeed with Angraecums...
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008

Hi,

Grow like Vandas & the Nobile type of dendrobiums. Like a Vanda in a wood slat basket. mist it often. Lots of light like both of the above and a dry season in wintertime. The grow like weeds here in te top of small trees ( they are not native here but do well ). temp like a Cattleya (intermediate − ish)

Jim

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] how to succeed with Angraecums...
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008

I didn't stop to look it up before I wrote that ; my Magdalenae is perhaps
the same size as yours − but has not flowered or grown much in maybe 4
years. From memory it is sesquipedale x eburneum − both of which can easily
beat 15 inches leaf span if properly grown − but not for me !

An old friend, now departed, grew Vandas and catasetums very well, and had
the comet orchid in a 15 inch pot, and needed my help to carry it into a
show − a mass of growths, and half a dozen flower spikes at a time − leaves
must have been 15 inch long ( 3 foot span) ; my Vandas and catasetums are as
good as his, I think although I have only just started on the latter − so
presumably my conditions are similar to his, but not my what ought to be big
Angraecums.

Maybe I just need some better large Ang. plants !

Geoff

John J. Rupp wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] how to succeed with Angraecums...

> Hi Geoff,

> You say Angraceum Magdalena is a big one?

[Snip]

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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] how to succeed with Angraecums...
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008

Thanks Jim , I'll repot them into something with lots of holes ( I don't
like wooden baskets) and give them a rest with the dendrobes -and cross my
fingers.

Geoff

JIM MATEOSKY wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] how to succeed with Angraecums...

> Hi,

> Grow like Vandas & the Nobile type of dendrobiums. Like a Vanda in a wood
> slat basket. mist it often. Lots of light like both of the above and a dry
> season in wintertime. The grow like weeds here in te top of small trees (
> they are not native here but do well ). temp like a Cattleya (intermediate -
> ish)

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From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] for Gordon
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008

Thanks Geoff,
I have to admit that to date I have never considered stem propogation other than to try cutting a stem and laying on moss....without success so far.
I will give your idea a try whenever I get some of my... !$*X"$*... to flower for me. Anyone got any old spikes of interesting plants they are willing to send my way in return for plants if and when I have success.?
Gordon.

geoff hands wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] for Gordon

> Have you thought of practising your flasking technique by trying
> stem propagations ( phalaenopsis) ?

[Snip]

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From: Alex Scott
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: how to succeed with Angraecums...
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008

I have a magdalenae which flowers in early summer, its not very big though.
I keep it cool to int and fairly dry in winter as I read it comes from quite
high up in madagascar (3000ft) with a dry winter. Its the only angraecum I
have though.
Regards, Alex

geoff hands writes:

> I do very well with the little ones − A.didieri, compactum,
> jacksonii etc which grow into clumps , and flower , sometimes even
> twice a year.. But the big ones − sesquipedale, eburneum,
> Magdalenae − they just sit on the bench ( or hang in the roof) for
> year after year and they don't even grow, never mind flower.

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