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March 1—7

From:
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Cymbidiums
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008

Geoff
you just brought back a sad sight just over a year ago the last time i went
to ray biltons behind the green hse ,at 5ft high 20ft long were his cymbidiums
rotting in a heap,2000?? just rotting,
tom

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Cymbidiums.
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008

Hi all,

Cymbidiums, everyone says water like hell, is that all year round? What kind of medium are you using, one that tends to hold water (coconut husks) or one that just holds a little water ( charcoal, perlite ).

I grow them Here and the do well, But I do not "water them like hell".

Jim Mateosky

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cymbidiums.
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008

Hello Jim,

When I said water and feed like hell, I was speaking of course ONLY in our growing period. It's short enough as it is, so that's why I always try to make them grow like hell. Hopefully they will make some nice large bulbs.

Rocky.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cymbidiums.
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008

I remember a chap who grew only Cymbidiums , an amateur , 35 years ago ,
sent flower spikes up to London for auction and paid his fuel bill ( Tom
Titley , we used to have him come and talk to us at Birmingham OS once a
year , well primed with a good lunch and more than his fair share of a
bottle of claret, he was a good talker.) he quoted actual figures for
rainfall from areas where the underlying species were wild plants , 2 or 3
inches per day of rain in the wet season , I did say each day . He copied
this. .. He used to show plants he had grown. His first bulb was often (
this was before novelty or miniature cymbidiums had been invented ) four
inches , 10cm high , and two flower spikes, followed by two new growths and
this was more normal than the exception, in his culture. He grew in what was
the usual UK orchid compost in thoise far off days , osmunda fibre ( dead
wiry roots of a fern) and sphagnum moss ( a moss growing in European bogs ,
rather like knitting wool , cap[able of holding 9 mtimes its own weight of
water, and releasing it slowly accompanied by leached trace elements.

Winter rainfall/watering much more modest , but these are semi-terrestrial
plants , never dry .

Not like your Pacific side of the continental divide ( I deduce) , Jim.

I went to the Wessex show today . My private opinion r*****h . They should
get together with other local Societies and get them to put on displays , as
we used to do in Cotswold OS. The £2 entry fee guaranteed five minutes
viewing for me.. Won't bother to go there again.

Had thought to buy a few cymmies , will plan a visit to see Brian R and
Arthur Bell one day soon .

Geoff

JIM MATEOSKY wrote:

> Hi all,

> Cymbidiums, everyone says water like hell, is that all year round? What kind
> of medium are you using, one that tends to hold water (coconut husks) or one
> that just holds a little water ( charcoal, perlite ).

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From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cymbidiums.
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008

When I was living in Berkshire there was an elderly widow lady (85plus) who grew fantastic standard Cymbids.Her dead husband had worked at Wyld Court − not in the orhid houses- and had aquired some bulbs.
In the winter the plants were kept in a frost free out house to her cottage. When the frost had passed she planted out her tomatoes and put the Cymbids next to themthey were both watered each day and fed liquid chicken manure once a week.
As she had coal fires the ash was spread around the toms. and cymbids to protect from slugs. Her growing medium was well rotted compost and 1/2 inch gravel.
Things have changed!
Regards Dennis

Roger Grier wrote:

> When I said water and feed like hell, I was speaking of course ONLY in
> our growing period. It's short enough as it is, so that's why I always
> try to make them grow like hell. Hopefully they will make some nice
> large bulbs.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cymbidiums.
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008

It's my opinion, and previous experience that you are absolutely right Roger
IF you grow them cold in the winter − like a stat set to 10 − or as many
people used to do , switch the heater off in April and not turn it on again
until November.

But it's also my experience that if you keep the heat on "by demand" − in
other words never switch it off but let the stat do that for you , and have
a winter night minimum of say 12 and a winter day minimum of say 15, they DO
carry on growing all the year.

Geoff

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From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Help with parentage, please!
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008

Hello,

I am trying to follow the lineage of parents for one
of my orchids, just to see if I can give the plant
better growing conditions by understanding the
parentage of this plant. I am using the RHS orchid
register, but I have run into a big problem!

The plant in question is BLC Chunyeah 'Tzeng Wen'
AM/AOS, which has now been reclassified as
Rhyncosophrocattleya!

So far so good... I have traced it back to somepoint
at the begining of last century, but the problem comes
when I type in SC Luminosa, which was used to produce
SC Mrs Medo... With the reclassification of Brazilian
laelias you get two different entries for SC Luminosa,
both of them with different parents... And I don't
know where elso to look now...

So basically, what I am asking for is, to those
members of Orchid-talk that have the Wildcatt system,
if they could punch in the name of my orchid and give
me the percentage of each species that has been used
to produce this BLC Chunyeah plant that I have...

Many, many, many thanks!

Francis

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cymbidiums.
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008

Rocky,

There is a guy here that grows Cymbidiums on the Atlantic coast of Costa Rica, near Limon at an altitude of 400 meters. Read this as hot as hell and the rains are all year round strong, holy cow heavy. They are hybrids, they do not bloom very well maybe 1% (prob less) flower there but grow like bad weeds on steroids. He grows them outside under a shade cloth (saran) no roof what soever. I have brought a bunch up to my greenhouse and If I get them here August -Sept, in time to acclimate before the cold cold (12 C) December, Jan, Feb) night temps, they all flower here.

These are great plants I'd love to get some more. Can you recommend some growers or labs? I think it is actually easier (and cheaper) to import from Europe than the good ol USA.

Cheers,

Jim Mateosky

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Eriopsis biloba.
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008

Hello Jim, [In Costa Rica]

Jim, in two weeks time I will be buying Eriopsis biloba, and having failed with two of the plants some years ago, I am hoping to grow it very well this time.

Do you, or maybe some of your friends grow this plant, and if so, do they treat it as an Epiphyte, a Lothophyte or maybe a Terrestrial?

If you do not know of anyone who grows this plant, can you please suggest the best Country to ask.

Regards, Rocky.

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: staghorn fern & fertilizer (yes I know this is not an orchid)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008

Hi,

Sorry to diverge from our beloved orchids, But I am sure with all the plant enthusiast's in this group there are a bunch of fern growers out there. My question is this:

Fertilizing stag horn ferns do you do it? With the same fert you use for orchids?

Thanks,
Jim

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cymbidiums, Wessex Show
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

On 01 Mar, in article ,
Geoffrey Hands wrote:

[Snip]

> I went to the Wessex show today . My private opinion r*****h . They
> should get together with other local Societies and get them to put on
> displays, as we used to do in Cotswold OS. The £2 entry fee guaranteed
> five minutes viewing for me. Won't bother to go there again.

Geoff, when you talk about other local Societies, how local do you have in
mind? How do you pick a venue to suit a widespread group? Just a thought.

--

Tricia

All's fair in love, war and car parking!

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Spreadsheet.
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

Mornin' Bill,

Thanks for your details which I have just entered on the 'Spreadsheet'.

I see that you like Lycastes, so here is a question for you.

I have three or four which have just dropped the last of their leaves. I have kept them almost dry through this Winter, so me question is, when do I start to give them a drink???

Ant more tips will be appreciated.

Cheers, Rocky.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Sarcochilus Fitzhart.
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

Mornin' 'Taff',

The 'Spreadsheet' tells us that they are your 'Speciality, so I thought you might like to see my one and only.

Had it for more years than I can remember, and honestly cannot remember what it is potted in. Either 'Perlag' or pieces of clay pot.

If I ever have to move it to a bigger pot, I will just take a hammer to the sides of the existing pot and smash the sides.....then just drop the whole thing into a bigger pot.

Going to London on Saturday by any chance.

Kind regards, Rocky.

P.S. For all of our Members who did not recognise 'Taff', all Welsh people are known as 'Taffys', especially our Jean. And it is those people who are responsible for that dreaded rose disease know as 'Di-bach'.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cymbidiums, Wessex Show
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

At Cotswold − meeting at Northleach ( verging on the south Cotswolds) we
had one year or another, Displays by (1) Bristol , (2) Cheltenham,
(3)North Bucks, (4) Solihull, (5) Worcester. (6) Swindon − maybe others I
have forgotten. We didn't get all of them any year , but we reckoned that
in a small hall, like the ones we had our shows in , at Stroud, Witney,
Campden, etc,( we moved around − the Cotswolds is a large area) 5
Societies − us and 4 invitees, plus 2 trade, could put on a good show.
This is one system − it was still the Cotswold Show. Or of course when we
took plants to Bristol , it was the Bristol Soc. Show, and so on.

Another system is used somewhere north − I went to judge once at a 5 Soc.
Show, or maybe a 6 soc. Show, somewhere near Sheffield- the details have
gone from my mind − its 20-30 years ago; that was run as a 5 Soc. Show,
and potential new members were shown the meeting place and time details and
programmes of all the clubs ; there is no competition here ( which some
folk seem to imagine, no risk of losing a new member to another club etc ;
a new member is going to join the one nearest and with a meeting day/time
to suit him or her !

geoff

Tricia Garner wrote:

> Geoff, when you talk about other local Societies, how local do you have in
> mind? How do you pick a venue to suit a widespread group? Just a thought.

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From: Roy Lee
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: New Paph out.
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

The flowering season continues with another first flowering ( for me ) of a Paph that is interesting and should have had 2 flowers but one decided to drop. I flowered one other of this cross last year and I like it a little better than this onebut this one may grow on me. The biggest problem is MY wife likes it so I think I'm stuck with it regardless. Its P. Hama Callomii...callosum x glanduliferum ( praestans ) I also include a pic of my Miltonia Guanabara. Its just starting to bloom now, it has 20 spikes.

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cymbidiums, Wessex Show
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

Ah, the good old days. Thing is Geoff, times have changed. Until a few
years ago North Hampshire Orchid Society operated the first system you
mentioned but most Societies dropped out because their members who did the
show displays were getting too long in the tooth − couldn't take the long
days involved in getting plants to the venue, setting up, staying all day
and then the long drive home and there weren't any younger members
interested in taking over. Not to mention petrol costs (this was before
talk of carbon footprints was in vogue). For the last two years there has
only been one Society willing to put on a display at the Show whereas
before there used to be five. I suspect it is much the same for Wessex.

Regarding the second system, I remember my mentor, Ray Buxton (sadly no
longer with us) telling me about the Four Societies Show as it was in those
days, upwards of 25 years ago. I think it turned into the Tatton Park
Orchid Show, which presumably works because of trade financial involvement.

Tricia

On 03 Mar, in article ,
Geoffrey Hands wrote:
> At Cotswold − meeting at Northleach ( verging on the south Cotswolds)
> we had one year or another, Displays by (1) Bristol , (2) Cheltenham,
> (3)North Bucks, (4) Solihull, (5) Worcester. (6) Swindon − maybe others
> I have forgotten. We didn't get all of them any year , but we reckoned
> that in a small hall, like the ones we had our shows in , at Stroud,
> Witney, Campden, etc,( we moved around − the Cotswolds is a large area)
> 5 Societies − us and 4 invitees, plus 2 trade, could put on a good show.
> This is one system − it was still the Cotswold Show. Or of course when
> we took plants to Bristol , it was the Bristol Soc. Show, and so on.

> Another system is used somewhere north − I went to judge once at a 5
> Soc. Show, or maybe a 6 soc. Show, somewhere near Sheffield- the details
> have gone from my mind − its 20-30 years ago; that was run as a 5 Soc.
> Show, and potential new members were shown the meeting place and time
> details and programmes of all the clubs ; there is no competition here (
> which some folk seem to imagine, no risk of losing a new member to
> another club etc ; a new member is going to join the one nearest and with
> a meeting day/time to suit him or her !

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From: Sjean
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] staghorn fern & fertilizer (yes I know this is not an orchid)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

I went to an event at the horticultual area of a local college a couple of years ago and they had a HUGE staghorn fern that had a special sturdy pergola built to hold it. The director said it had been donated by a local family and they only fertilized it with banana peels. When anyone in the family ate a banana they'd just toss the peel onto the staghorn.

Sjean in California

JIM MATEOSKY wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Sorry to diverge from our beloved orchids, But I am sure with all the
> plant enthusiast's in this group there are a bunch of fern growers out
> there. My question is this:
>
> Fertilizing stag horn ferns do you do it? With the same fert you use for
> orchids?

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From: Kenneth Bruyninckx
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Help with parentage, please!
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

Francis,

Enclosed please find 2 files which will help you.
Looking at the data in my (not so up-to-date) Wildcatt version I find the
following:

Lc. Luminosa: C. dowiana x L. tenebrosa (Charlesworth Ltd. 1901)
Sc Luminosa: Sc. Chamberlainiana x C. dowiana (Armstrong/Brown 1917)

Changing Laelia tenebrosa into Sophronitis tenebrosa indeed has huge
consequences.... but don't worry I recently heard that the move to
Sophronitis was too premature and that soon we may just be calling them
Cattleya :-)
So, start sharpening those pencils ;-)

Kind regards,

Kenneth.

Kenneth Bruyninckx
Akerne Orchids
Laarsebeekdreef 4, B-2900 Schoten, Belgium
tel. +32 (0)3 651 40 36 fax +32 (0)3 653 06 76
kenneth@akerne-orchids.com

www.akerne-orchids.com

See us at the following shows and events in 2008:

· London Orchid Show, London, UK (15-16/3)
· 11ème Biennale Intenationale d'Orchidées, Ragnies, Belgium
(30/4-4/5)
· Open Nursery Weekend, Schoten, Belgium (31/5-1/6)
· Peterborough International Orchid Show, Peterborough, UK (14-15/6)

Looking for orchid books and magazines? Visit www.orchidbooks.eu

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cymbidiums.
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

Hi there Jim,

After I read your first sentence about this guy who lives on the ATLANTIC COAST near LIMON..........and I thought to myself, has friend Jim also having trouble with his mind like some of us have..........I thought that Limon was on the Caribbean Coast???

I'm not that much bothered with Cymbids Jim, so maybe someone else can answer your question. But have you triad any of the Australian Orchid nurseries for Cymbids.

Regards, Rocky.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Help with parentage, please!
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

'Tis a very long list (!) -

C.lueddemanniana 0.2%
C.mendelii0.2%
C.percivaliana0.39%
C schroderae0.78%
C.trianei0.78%
C.warnerii0.98%
L.xanthina0.98%
L.purpurata1.27%
C.eldorado1.37%
C.labiata1.37%
C.chocoensis1.56%
L.cinnabarina1.56%
C.mossiae1.76%
C.rex1.95%
C.warscewiczii3.61%
B.digbyana4.49%
C.dowiana59.67%
C.bicolor7.71%
L.tenebrosa9.38%

The best of luck !

geoff

francis quesada pallares Wrote:

> Hello,

> I am trying to follow the lineage of parents for one
> of my orchids, just to see if I can give the plant
> better growing conditions by understanding the
> parentage of this plant. I am using the RHS orchid
> register, but I have run into a big problem!

> The plant in question is BLC Chunyeah 'Tzeng Wen'
> AM/AOS, which has now been reclassified as
> Rhyncosophrocattleya!

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] staghorn fern & fertilizer (yes I know this is not an orchid)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

I don't currently grow it ; but I have heard no,no,no..

( have seen Dendrobiums growing on them in Thailand !) And there is one
orchid normally found on them, but can't bring it to mind.

Geoff

JIM MATEOSKY wrote:

> Fertilizing stag horn ferns do you do it? With the same fert you use for
> orchids?

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Eriopsis biloba.
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

Hi,

I have never seen the flower I asked a few guys and they do not know I have to more gurus to check with (they are not on email ).

I assume you saw this http://www.orchidspecies.com/eriopsisbiloba.htm

"occasional epiphyte and lithophyte as well as terrestrial that occurs on exposed, steep, rocky or clay slopes in wet montane forests at elevations of 500 to 2000 meters with "

How are you thinking of growing this?
If this is accurate (which Jay usually is ) I would grow it an a rough slab, lots of light, lots of water.

Let me know how it goes.

Jim

Roger Grier wrote:

> Hello Jim, [In Costa Rica]
>
> Jim, in two weeks time I will be buying Eriopsis biloba, and having
> failed with two of the plants some years ago, I am hoping to grow it very
> well this time.
>
> Do you, or maybe some of your friends grow this plant, and if so, do they
> treat it as an Epiphyte, a Lothophyte or maybe a Terrestrial?

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Roy's latest photos.
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

Hi there Roy,

The Paph look nice, but has it fully developed? I ask this because I would like to see the two petals have similar twists.

A very well grown plant of the Miltonia. Tell us Roy, what is in the pot???

Regards, Rocky.

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From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Sarcochilus Fitzhart.
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

Rocky,

that is a beautiful plant of Sarcochilus Fitzhart... I
keep looking at mine for spikes, but so far nothing on
it... However, it has produced four new side shoots,
so maybe it will put on a nice display of flowers next
year?

Here is hope, anyway!

Francis.

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cymbidiums.
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

Rocky,

Yes generally speaking I am having trouble with mind, that is for sure, but from here we consider to the east "tha atlantic coast" to the west the pacific coast, yes it is on the caribean coast to be exact.

No I haven't tried any australian nurseries, the south asia area (including Australia ) is much more difficult for me to import from they are scared to death of their thrips here.

Jim

Roger Grier wrote:

> Hi there Jim,
>
> After I read your first sentence about this guy who lives on the ATLANTIC
> COAST near LIMON..........and I thought to myself, has friend Jim also
> having trouble with his mind like some of us have..........I thought that
> Limon was on the Caribbean Coast???

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From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] staghorn fern & fertilizer (yes I know this is not an orchid)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008

Jim my stag horns are in the garden and mostly very large. Don't worry what to use, just use anything you have and they will respond. If you want a larger plant use fertilizer more often, from lawn fertilize to orchid fertilizers. My stags are already too big. One has a ball about five feet across and the leaves are ten feet across. These stags below are the walikia hybrid 'Longwood'. Longwood Gardens has not said what the other parent was. These are medium size.

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From: Paul Johnson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cymbidiums.
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008

Roger,
Limon is on the Caribbean coast, which is the Atlantic coast. On the
oceanic scale the Caribbean is just another embayment of the Atlantic;
same water.

> On Mar 3, 2008, at 1:21 PM, Roger Grier wrote:
>> Hi there Jim,
>>
>> After I read your first sentence about this guy who lives on the
>> ATLANTIC COAST near LIMON..........and I thought to myself, has
>> friend Jim also having trouble with his mind like some of us
>> have..........I thought that Limon was on the Caribbean Coast???
>>

But, South Dakota is a horrid place to grow Cymbidium, too, though for
different reasons. Still, autumn past was cool, with some rain,
daytime temps in the 50-60's F, night temps 40-50's F, for nearly two
months, and plants outside in full morning/partial afternoon sun;
irrigate outdoors with well water at 52dF. There are now Cym's of
three varieties blooming for me; first blooms in 4-5 years on some.
Attached are photo's of a couple; nothing glorious though:

Otherwise, this old hybrid, Brassocattleya Evelyn Zuck, just opened;
very fragrant! Her petal spread is a bit over 17 cm.

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From: Roy Lee
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Roy's latest photos.
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008

Roger, the Paph is 99% open but I think because of the parentage the twisting will always be irregular.

The Milt is in a 15inch wire basket lined with woven shade cloth & the mix is just 1/4in composed pine bark. Not the quality bark I lke but its working here at the moment.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Sarcochilus Fitzhart.
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008

Your windowsill may not get cool enough- unless you leave the window open
all night; but some things may just be one step too far...
Geoff

francis quesada pallares wrote:

> Rocky,

> that is a beautiful plant of Sarcochilus Fitzhart... I
> keep looking at mine for spikes, but so far nothing on
> it... However, it has produced four new side shoots,
> so maybe it will put on a nice display of flowers next
> year?

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From: Esther Koh
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] That photo.
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008

Rocky,

I think styrofoam and polystyrene are the same thing. It's that white lightweight material that is used for cushioning electronic equipment when they are packed into boxes. It is also used to make disposable cups used to contain hot beverages.

The roots of my orchid do not tunnel through the foam.

esther

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From: Bill Haldane
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Spreadsheet.
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008

Hi Rocky!
I believe Lycastes should be kept moist through their resting period. The plants should tell you when they are ready for more water when they start their new growth-which most of them should be doing any time now. When the new growth is well up (a couple of inches) they should start throwing new roots which is the time for any necessary re-potting. Once they are into full growing mode they can take quite a lot of water (and feed).
Hope the above is helpful.
Regards Bill
PS I was not able to open your attachment!

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From: Ron
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] new thread ... growing cymbidiums out of doors in Southern England, Summer-time...
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008

During the last 3 years that I was in Portugal I grew my cymbidiums outside
all year round. There, the winter night temparatures never fell below
1degree C. B ut when I moved my collection over to Bath in the UK, I
realised that the frost would kill them so I kept them outside until
December when I moved them into the orchid house and they are all thriving
although opnly 1 in 3 is producingflowering spikes. Of course the 3-day
journey by truck and the change in climate will have caused them some
set-back, I suppose.

Ron

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From: Esther Koh
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] staghorn fern & fertilizer (yes I know this is not an orchid)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008

I did that with my staghorn ferns too. I froze the peels and thawed them out whenever I wanted to feed the ferns. I stopped doing it months ago and the ferns don't seem to miss them.

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] staghorn fern & fertilizer (yes I know this is not an orchid)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008

Wow, these are nice, how old are they? mine are still inside a 4 inch pot.

Jim

jns tropic wrote:

> Jim my stag horns are in the garden and mostly very large.

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From: Laura Peppiatt
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Sarcochilus Fitzhart.
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008

Rocky,

Your plant is gorgeous. You probably remember that I asked you about
this plant last year. Unfortunately my has not flowered. It managed to
survive my very traumatic house move along with other orchids that are
all waiting when I build a greenhouse for them. Well, it will be
probably a long wait as I cannot decide which greenhouse to buy.

Please add my name to your list despite I have not got any special
knowledge. I grow mostly phals.

Laura Peppiatt

Hayes, Kent

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: time for school (for me) − how to find parents for cat little toshi
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008

Hi,

I have several hybrids growing now with Cat (BLC or POT) little toshi "yellow ____" (can't read it) looks like it has lots of cat walkeriana in it.

How can I find the parantage? I have seen BLC and POT as the type of hybrid on the web.

The more you learn the more you learn that you do NOT know.

Jim Mateosky

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Terminology.
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008

Hi Paul, Jim,

I was quite surprised to hear you speak of Limon as being on the 'Atlantic side' of Costa Rica. But it is all good knowledge, especially as us 'foreigners' see Limon as being about 1,500 miles from the Atlantic.

Mind you, there are some strange sayings and terminology that are used from Country to Country.

As for Limon, I did spend just a good full day there once, and I sure did enjoy it. Saw much, observed plenty, and took it all on board.

No wonder people take a holiday in Costa Rica.

Cheers, Rocky.

P.S. Could be minus 4 degrees C. here tonight.

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From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Sarcochilus Fitzhart.
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008

Geoff,

That could be the cause for it, as last year it did
produce flowers, and I did leave the windows open
through the winter (on the latch)... Maybe I'll
consider that for the next year!

Thanks!

Francis

--- Geoffrey Hands
escribió:

> Your windowsill may not get cool enough- unless you
> leave the window
> open
> all night; but some things may just be one step too
> far...
> Geoff

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From: Paul Johnson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Terminology.
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008

Hello Roger,
Yes indeed, Costa Rica is a great place to visit. Though I will not
be within 50 km of Limon this time, I will think good thoughts of
balmy coastal England while I teach my students how to inventory
euglossine bees, assess epiphyte loads [orchids, included!], and watch
for terciopelo at our feet during our biodiversity studies later this
month.

cheers,

Paul

On Mar 4, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Roger Grier wrote:

> ...No wonder people take a holiday in Costa Rica.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Spreadsheet.
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008

Hi Laura,

As you can see I have added you to the Spreadsheet.

And Bill, can you now access it?

Laura, as you grow mainly Phalaenopsis you may like to have a go at this question.

Many people grow Phalaenopsis and quite often this one question pops up:

Why does one bud, or sometimes a couple of them, turn yellow and eventually drop off??? It is not always the first two buds, but often a bud will do this that is in the middle of the spike.

Have you ever experienced it, if so have you and thoughts on this subject.

Kind regards, Rocky.

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From: Roy Lee
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: styrene
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008

A note of caution when using polystyrene or styrofoam etc. Make sure it is the " FOOD GRADE " type & NOT the packaging type. The packaging type is generally toxic to plant roots. Even the type of styrene used in Broccoli boxes is no good. It will burn off the roots in days and the plant takes a very long time to recover if at all.

Roy.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Polystyrene and styrofoam.
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008

Hello Roy,

I was interested in what you said about the roots getting burnt by some types of the polystyrene, styrofoam.

Maybe some additives are used in the manufacture of some types, but I know nothing of such ingredients.

However, I do have an orchid growing in a polystyrene 'box' which I drilled holes in.

The sides of the box are about one inch thick, and it just goes to show how strong an orchids roots are, as some of the roots have grown right through the sides, and with no detrimental effect.

To be honest, these polystyrene boxes and other shapes do come in handy and work very well.

Maybe some scientist in our group might know a thing or two about the making of the harmful types.

It's too dark now, but tomorrow I will post a photo of my Dendrobium delicatum growing in such a box.

Regards, Rocky.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Eriopsis biloba.
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008

Hello Jim,

Yes, I have had a look at Jay Pfals site, and have also read many books, etc. etc. And I am still not sure how I will grow my plant when I get it. I will have a damned good look at it, and put the roots under a strong magnifying glass to see if I can learn anything from them.

That's why I would just love to hear from someone who actually GROWS IT WELL, AND FLOWERS IT WELL.

The same may be said for my continuing quest to hear from someone, hopefully who lives in Mexico, about the exact positions that Encyclia citrina grows. And when I mean exact, I mean whether it grows on the upperside of a horizontal branch, underneath it, on one side, or where does it grow? That's how my mind works Jim!!!

Cheers for now, Rocky.

JIM MATEOSKY wrote:

> Hi,

> I have never seen the flower I asked a few guys and they do not know I
> have to more gurus to check with (they are not on email ).

> I assume you saw this http://www.orchidspecies.com/eriopsisbiloba.htm

> "occasional epiphyte and lithophyte as well as terrestrial that occurs on
> exposed, steep, rocky or clay slopes in wet montane forests at elevations
> of 500 to 2000 meters with "

> How are you thinking of growing this? If this is accurate (which Jay
> usually is ) I would grow it an a rough slab, lots of light, lots of
> water.

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From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Phalaenopsis − bud drop
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008

Hi Rocky,

The question you asked Laura is unanswerable, because there are so many
possibilities.

Take your pick at one of the following: too bright, too dark, too hot, too
cold, too wet, too dry, too much fertilizer or too little, or a combination
of several factors. I think in many cases it is fluctuations in
temperature. In their native habitat it is almost always hot and wet. It
rains almost every day and the humidity is very high. Nobody can re-create
an environment like this and on the other hand they grow and bloom on a
windowsill.

This problem has been discussed many times and nobody can answer it
positively.

Kind regards Peter from Bloubergstrand

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From: John J. Rupp
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [?? Probable Spam] [OrchidTalk] Spreadsheet.
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008

Hi Rocky,

This spreadsheet was the first one that did not open on the first try
for me. After several retrys, it gave the message that Excel found
unreadable material and did I want to try to recover data. Sure, why
not? It then said that damage to the file was so extensive that repair
was impossible, so it would try to extracgt as much as possible. A lot
of data did show up, but did all of it? I do not know.

Just thought you would be interested to know.

John R

Roger Grier wrote:

> Hi Laura,
>
> As you can see I have added you to the Spreadsheet.
>
> And Bill, can you now access it?

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From: Bill Haldane
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Spreadsheet.
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008

Hello Rodge,
I am unable to open the spreadsheet this time-although I was successful with the version you sent me by direct Email this morning.
Regards Bill

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From: Esther Koh
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] styrene
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

I've used packing styrofoam with no problems.

Roy Lee wrote:

> A note of caution when using polystyrene or styrofoam etc. Make sure it
> is the " FOOD GRADE " type & NOT the packaging type. The packaging type
> is generally toxic to plant roots. Even the type of styrene used in
> Broccoli boxes is no good. It will burn off the roots in days and the
> plant takes a very long time to recover if at all.

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From: Laura Peppiatt
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Phalaenopsis − bud drop
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

Hi Peter and Rocky,

Peter,

Thank you for helping me with the answer.

In my case as a window sill grower I think that temperature fluctuation
with over watering are main reasons.

Regards,
Laura Peppiatt

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Spreadsheet.
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

Mornin' to John R, and to Bill,

Thank you for telling me that the Spreadsheet could not be accessed, so I had a good look at it, and I think I see the problem.....as I said it is early days, and 'Teething Troubles' do occur.

I am sure that the problem was because the last column, with Websites and E-mail addresses in it, was over the page width limit.

So, I have for now taken that column out, and reduced the font size to 7.5.

Please let me know if it is now O.K.

Many thanks, Rocky.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Long list.
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

Mornin' Geoff,

Who or what type of people make up such a list of an orchids supposed parentage????? And how can that person or persons be positive about the figures.....1.37%.....7.71%. The mind boggles.

My thoughts are that this would surely baffle and frighten newcomers to this wonderful hobby.

Imagine saying to the owner of said plant that 3.61% of it was down to Cattleya Warscewiczii. Answers on a postcard !!!!!

Rocky.

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Eriopsis biloba.
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

Rocky,

I would talk with this guy, he has a huge collection.
http://www.fincadracula.com/

Keep us informed

Jim

Roger Grier wrote:

> That's why I would just love to hear from someone who actually GROWS IT
> WELL, AND FLOWERS IT WELL.

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From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Spreadsheet.
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

Rocky,

I updated the spreadsheet a little

Jim

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From: Tony Watkinson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: styrofoam
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

> A note of caution when using polystyrene or etc. Make sure it is the "
>FOOD GRADE " type & NOT the packaging type. The packaging type is
>generally toxic to plant roots. Even the type of styrene used in Broccoli
>boxes is no good. It will burn off the roots in days and the plant takes a
>very long time to recover if at all.

> Roy

I've had some breakfast cereals that tasted like FOOD GRADE polystyrene... but that's another story...

Tony

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From: Tony Watkinson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Spreadsheet.
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

Hi all

I have been incommunicado for a while as we ("we" being a group of 27 orchid growers from Perth, Western Australia) have been in Thailand and Vietnam for the last three (or so) weeks doing orchid stuff. Great Fun too!!

Your Orchid Talk emails have been deleted without being read for the most part, in an effort to keep me on line when internet is ssslllooowwww to almost non existent in Vietnam. So some of your communications have been sent to that great email reservoir in the sky.

Yes, I do usually read all the Orchid Talk emails even though I do not respond to all, being one of those retired folk who are so busy that they could not contemplate actually working for a living!!

Thus I missed the beginnings of the Spreadsheet thread and have intercepted the tail end of it (so to speak).
Looks quite interesting even though I do get some strange and vague notices that tell me that Excel cannot open...etc etc.

It does eventually, with equally vague threats that the world will end if I should press the wrong button and destroy all somebody's good works. As usual....nothing much happens when I do press the wrong button so what the hell!!

Seems that someone is putting together a SPREADSHEET of who we are and where we are and what orchids we grow (or attempt to grow) and that can't be a bad thing surely. It's good to know how others grow orchids and the mistakes they feel they have made and (of course) the things they feel they have done right.

So!! I am Tony Watkinson from Perth Western Australia (as some of you may remember) I grow (or attempt to grow) Phals, Hardcane Dens and a large variety of species orchids. My specialty would have to be species Phals (a few flasks of which I have recently acquired in Thailand, namely Phal sumatrana, testraspis, amboinensis, corningiana, gibbosa, luueddemanniana, venosa, parishii, mannii, bellina.......Oh happy day!!

Website.. well I have a few of those .....ignored for the last few weeks admittedly...but demanding nevertheless.
I do a monthly on line newsletter for the Species Orchid Society of Western Australia,
http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eemntee/page17.html

the same for the Wanneroo Orchid Society
http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eemntee/WOS_News.htm
For which I also do the printed version..

And in my spare (?) time I do a site for the Western Australian Orchid Spectacular 2008
http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eemntee/WAOS.html

Ahh!! I also have a website of photographs of Western Australian Native Orchids, most of which were taken by the late Ron Heberle, but which we try to keep up to date as well as we can. ("We " being some of the members of the Species Orchid Society of Western Australia)
http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eemntee/page18.html

The total website that I host amounts to some 70mb and growing.

......Well you did ask....

Go on Rocky.. fit that into your SPREADSHEET!!

Tony

PS. I must tell you about the Vietnam orchid trip we did with Peter Williams. Highly recommended.....

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From: Roy Lee
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Polystyrene and styrofoam.
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

Roger & other members, I read your comments and I also have seen plants growing in the poly boxes, yet I and many others have broken up these boxes and used it in potting mix with bad results ( as I pointed out )
I am not sure why the problem occured but it did, thats why I suggested the caution rather than someone else having the problem. If its working for you in the mix, continue please. The box treatment for growing, yep, I know it works.

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Spreadsheet.
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

On 06 Mar, in article ,
Roger Grier wrote:
> Mornin' to John R, and to Bill,

> Thank you for telling me that the Spreadsheet could not be accessed, so I
> had a good look at it, and I think I see the problem.....as I said it is
> early days, and 'Teething Troubles' do occur.

> I am sure that the problem was because the last column, with Websites and
> E-mail addresses in it, was over the page width limit.

> So, I have for now taken that column out, and reduced the font size to
> 7.5.

Roger,

Why don't you use Column C, which you originally planned for telephone
numbers, for the website/email addresses? The column is just sitting there
unused at present.

Cheers,

--

Tricia

There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't.

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From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: WOC
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008

Hi Janet,
do you have a problem with your service provider? All mails are being returned
as undeliverable.
Kind regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

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From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] staghorn fern & fertilizer (yes I know this is not an orchid)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

Cymbidiella pardalina grows together with a fern, but not a Staghorn fern.

Peter from Bloubergstrand

Geoffrey Hands wrote:

> I don't currently grow it ; but I have heard no,no,no..

> ( have seen Dendrobiums growing on them in Thailand !) And there is one
> orchid normally found on them, but can't bring it to mind.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Long list.
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

Its easy when you know how.

Cross C.mossiae with C trianei and you have a hybrid which I'll call A with
50% of one and 50% of the other ( remember this is a theory which I'll come
to later..)

Cross C eldorado with C maxima and you get another hybrid, lets call it B
also 50% of each.

Cross A with B , and get C , and bingo, its down to 25% of each of the 4 .

Now suppose we cross C with C.mossiae , lets say as pollen parent, with
hybrid C as seed parent. . What have we got ? well it's a new hybrid, we'll
call it D . What is its theoretical makeup − ? Well, 50% mossiae from the
latest pollen parent, and the other 50% is made up of the same proportions (
not actual values) as C so ¼ of that half is mossiae 12.5% . So the
complete make-up of D is :-

C.mossiae 62.5%

C trianei 12.5%

C.eldorado 12.5%

C maxima 12.5%

This is the basic system, so if you go on doing this kind of calculation ,
lets say you keep on back-crossing to C mossiae , then , for example , C
maxima will go down to 6.25 % in the next generation. 3.125 % in the next,
and so on and so on.

Where the whole thing falls down is in trying to predict what will happen in
the next generation , will that tiny percentage of x or y or z have any
effect ? I guess that if there is a 1% content it can only be 50:1 against
there being any discernible effect. A bookie would calculate it better , and
an orchid breeder/geneticist tell you better than I can. I'm just working
from very limited experience and a lot of logic.

And when someone , was it Francis ? wants to know jer make-up so as to
influence his culture , telling him that nigh on 60% of the blood line is (
was it mossiae ? ) and nothing else has more than a few percent , why that
tells him what he wants to know . Grow it like mossiae !

geoff

Roger Grier wrote:

> Mornin' Geoff,

> Who or what type of people make up such a list of an orchids supposed
> parentage????? And how can that person or persons be positive about the
> figures.....1.37%.....7.71%. The mind boggles.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] styrofoam
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

There we have it − the latest new compost for growing orchids − or is it for
growing polystyrene. Its called − Ready-brek..

But − a hint − go easy with the milk , when it sours it can get smelly.

Geoff

Tony Watkinson wrote:

> I've had some breakfast cereals that tasted like FOOD GRADE polystyrene...
> but that's another story...

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From:
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Spreadsheet.
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

Hi Jim,
I don't seem to be on your spreadsheet.
Name: Janet Fabricant
Home: Boynton Beach, Florida, USA
Wirey hugs and love and xxx and licks from Janet, Bobby and Asta

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From: Bill Haldane
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Spreadsheet.
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

Hi Rocky!
Magic, I can now see it!
Regards Bill

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From: Alex Scott
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Spreadsheet.
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

This version reads OK on my PC and AppleMac
Regards, Alex

Roger Grier writes:

> Mornin' to John R, and to Bill,
>
> Thank you for telling me that the Spreadsheet could not be accessed, so
> I had a good look at it, and I think I see the problem.....as I said it
> is early days, and 'Teething Troubles' do occur.
>
> I am sure that the problem was because the last column, with Websites
> and E-mail addresses in it, was over the page width limit.
>
> So, I have for now taken that column out, and reduced the font size to
> 7.5.
>
> Please let me know if it is now O.K.

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From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Polystyrene and styrofoam.
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

Regarding types of Polystyrene.

I think it was last year that there was a post, I think from a member in USA , and who had worked in or with Polystyrene.He described the various colours and their uses and I think advised that the use of some types could be detrimental to plant roots. I thought I had filed it but I cannot find it now.
Members may know that I grow a lot, but not all of my Phals in stones, A La Rocky, and on some I have added a few pieces of Poly, the white S shaped rounded type used for packing. I did this so as to lessen the weight of the potted plant which to me is the down side of such way of growing.
Since then I have had a few plants that lost leaf and died, and on examination the roots were dead, and with all the appearance of over watering, which is really not possible when growing in stones and watered weekly.

In August last I bought, at Tesco for £6. a small Phal with nice coloured and shaped flowers and 4 good leaves. I brought it home and immediately repotted in stones plus a few polystyrene pieces as above. It lasted 6 weeks!

I think I had better repot any plants that have some Polystyrene in the mix, although I must say that most plants are growing and flowering well as can be seen in my recent pictures, but they may only be in stones. I will check them this next day or two.

Garden Centres sell vast amounts of Bedding plants in Polystyrene containers which appear to do them no harm so perhaps Orchids in those or bits of them may be OK.

Regards to all,

Ronbow.

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From: John J. Rupp
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Spreadsheet.
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

Good Day to all,

Sunny and 37 F here in Northern New York.

Rocky − your spreadsheet and the one from Jim M both opened fine.
Wanted to let you know of the success. I think this compilation is a
great idea.

Thanks for tackling it.

John R

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From:
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] WOC
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008

Hi Peter,
That's strange. I don't think I am having a problem with my service
provider but anything is possible. Please try to resend and you can send to
Bobby's email − . We can see if that works. Was
surprised I hadn't heard from you.
Regards to your wife,
Janet
Wirey hugs and love and xxx and licks from Janet, Bobby and Asta

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From: Roy Lee
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] styrofoam
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008

Tony, you've been into the health food isles again.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Spreadsheet
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008

Mornin' all,

Thanks to 'H-I' aka 'Eagleye' she spotted that I had 'hidden' column 'C'. Well I never, so I did. Early days/learning curve.

Janet, I have added your name and where you are, but can you give me your growing details please.

At least now I have kept the details to fit on a A4 sheet it seems that you can all access it. Even as Alex says, it is OK on his AppleMac, Big Mac/whatever.....couldn't resist it Alex !!!

Thanks to you all, Rocky.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: The London Orchid Show.
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008

Hi to you of you that will be going to the London Orchid Show this year. On either the Saturday, or the Sunday.

Some of us have proposed that if we would like to meet up with 'Members' of our Orchid Chat Club, that we meet at:

The O.S.G.B. stand at 2pm.

How does this grab you?

Rocky.

P.S. Bill Haldane, Dennis Read and myself are going on the Saturday.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: That 'Spreadsheet'
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008

Hi Tony, [From Perth W.A.]

Wondered why I had not heard from you !!! How's Brian, has he joined the 'Silver Top' Club yet ????

As you can see from the latest Spreadsheet, I have included your items.

We must swap a few images of both yours and ours Wild Orchids to see what interest and chat they bring up.

I did this 'Longhand' so many years ago with a friend from Adelaide, but do not know what happened to him.

Cheers for now, Rocky.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: What critter ????
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008

Hi all,

Ever felt gutted..........I did this morning.

I was moving a few plants here and there in my greenhouse and I came to a couple of similar Dendrobiums. The two that I purchased from my local Garden Centre last Autumn. Down from £12 to £3.

Both are so very similar. A few days ago I was chuffed to bits when I saw some little fat flower buds developing half way up the canes.

When I picked them up this morning I became rather puzzled, as I could not see the plant with the buds. Was I going crazy???? No answers on a postcard thanks, ha.

After a few minutes of deciding that I must be going crazy I saw what had happened. The two little fat buds, no bigger than a matchhead were gone.

Now this is where Mother Nature comes in. Whatever critter ate the buds did it in such a neat way, left no trail of slime or any footprints or whatever. No wonder I had a job to find the buds. They were eaten off so cleanly.

My big question is: What would attract such a critter, as the buds were so small, just a little swelling. Would such a thing put out/emit some sort of fragrance ?????

At least I can see other flower buds forming, and I have put slug pellets on the top of the coco-nut coir. I will also spray with 'Provado'.

I'd love to hear if any of you have suffered similar heartbreaks and what critter did this.

Kind regards, Rocky.

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