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From: Max Redman
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Best wishes.
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007

To all the wonderful people who are interested in and/or grow such wonderful
orchids
May I wish you all a very Merry Xmas and a most Happy and prosperoous New
Year.
May your flowers grow bigger and better and may all your dreams come true.

From: Esther Koh
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Greetings
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007

From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Season's Greetings
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007

From: Roy Lee
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Fresh out for Xmas
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007

Seasons Greetings to all.
I like fresh flower out in the green house for guests to see. Here is one, Paph niveum.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Latest buys.
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007

Could not resist buying two CHEAP plants yesterday..........please not the correct spelling Tricia !

The two photos, Number two and ten are of one of the plants that I purchased yesterday. I also bought a similar plant, but that one has no flowers, but, two sheaths which may or may not produce flowers. The thing is that they are both excellent plants, especially for just £5.99. Both plants are very well grown and have great potential for the future. Thing is, can anyone suggest a name ? I feel sure that there is some Laelia in there.

I will of course re-pot them in the Spring of next year..........and that's not far away.

The two photos of the 'Yellow cheapie'..........I still hope that someone will come up with a name and if so thanks.

From: Paul Johnson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Coel mooreana `Westonbirt'
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007

As you know the settled story is that as found in Bechtel et al.
(1992, . . .Cultivated Orchids. . .) where C. mooreana was imported
and "introduced" by Sanders & Sons in 1906. Since the FCC award was
also in 1906, it appears that the introduction of the species to at
least the British growers was with the plant(s) named `Brockhurst' by
Sanders. The plant was described in 1907.

You noted that "
> According to RHS records Westonbirt was awarded a CCC in1908. It
> was exhibited by Mr. Holford − the then owner of Westonbirt House.

Evidently, plants were acquired by Holford [Is that the Sir George
Holford?] that surely were of the batch proffered by the Sanders,
unless someone else began importing the species separately. If you
are satisfied that your plants of `Brockhurst' and `Westonbirt' are
indeed subsequent divisions of both clones, then your observation of
them being identical in essence matches the historical record.
Further, in lieu of substantive information to the contrary, the
application of the cultivar name `Westonbirt' is seemly based on
nothing more substantial than the fact that the plant was grown in
Holford's conservatory. Since both cultivar names were given to one
or more plants of a species, this is where nomenclature gets
confusing and not necessarily complementary to orchid vendors.

I note the need for your plants being divisions because of the rules
for orchid nomenclature which state that a given species cultivar
name can be only used for plants reproduced vegetatively from the
original plant(s). A corollary of this is, of course, that all
sexually reproduced plants of C. mooreana in cultivation since the
original Sanders introduction must be given alternative cultivar
names, if they need be named. It is impossible for Holford to have
had a seedling from a Sanders plant come into bloom within two years,
and unlikely that Sanders had seedlings started in the 1890's.

There is also `Crestwood' as an awarded cultivar name for a C.
mooreana, which received a CBR in May 1983, apparently from the AOS.

The origin of the cultivar name `Brockhurst' remains obscure to me.
I am assuming that it named after someone in the profligate
Brockhurst family, rather than there being a greenhouse at Fort
Brockhurst.

In separate communications with David Banks and Malcolm Perry they
echoed the same sentiments on the distinctiveness of `Brockhurst'
other than it supposedly being a bit larger and flatter in floral
presentation. Since my plants from various sources vary in the
floral size and presentation, from plant to plant, season to season,
and presentation changes through the development of individual
flowers, but are otherwise essentially identical, I have come to
conclude that: 1) there seems to be no real differences between
`Brockhurst' and `Westonbirt' other than the home greenhouse from
which they were named, and 2) the true `Brockhurst' is likely
restricted to a few plants in British greenhouses.

From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: RE; Season of the year
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007

Years ago, when graffiti artists were apparently more literate than they seem to be now,
they used to write on any available (usually white-tiled) wall;-

In those far off days they didn't have the advantage of electronic tiles to write on (like we orchid graffitists!)

From: Jim Harper
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Best wishes.
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Coel. Mooreana
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007

Paul. Try EMailing Brian Ritterhausen who, a few years ago, was selling both cultivars at Burnham Orchids, who were well known for their coelogyne growing and displays at UK orchid shows His address is mail@orchids.uk.com He is/was a member of the RHS orchid committee and may know more of the history. I will also ask him next time I meet him − memory permitting.
A Happy Christmas and a Good Growing New Year to you and all our members from a frosty but sunny Devon. Regards Dennis

Hi Ron,
I certainly will be there. We live not far from Miami.
Wirey hugs and love and xxx and licks from Janet, Bobby and Asta

From: Esther Koh
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Fresh out for Xmas
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007

That is a beautiful flower Roy! I have this plant too. I almost lost it to rot, but managed to rescue it. I hope it will be strong enough to flower next year.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Fresh out for Xmas
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007

That would make anyone be very pleased indeed. In fact, because of my own mix for growing Paphs, and so far being successful with it, I am going to buy two or three next Spring.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Yellow cheapie.
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007

It looks as if my 'Yellow Cheapie' might just be something like, Odontocidium 'Hansueli Isler'.

From: Paul Johnson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk]Coel. Mooreana
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007

Dennis,
Thank you for the recommendation, and I will write to Brian shortly
and save the trouble of potential memory lapses, yours and mine! :) :)

A couple of C. mooreana photo's are attached for all to enjoy −
Christmas stars! The mutated `Dove' bloomed earlier this autumn; the
normal one is in bloom today.

A frosty Devon, eh? I would take that right now. Today, we have a
partly cloudy day at -10#, 10-15 cm of icy snow on the ground, and a
good stiff breeze from the northwest blowing at ca. 20 mph; `tis a
bit nippy going to the greenhouse. A typical winter's day in the
northern Great Plains; well, less the ground blizzard!

From: theorchid.man@virgin.net
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: A card from Roger John Grier
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007

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From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: C. Mooreana
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007

Paul, I'm sorry but your pictures would not download. Did you see them Tricia? At one time I did get a little square with a red cross in. I expect it is at my end. Yes, I have worked in your winters. For three years I worked in St. John, New Brunswick. I still have and wera my fur hat and coat that I bought in 1970.
Regards from, as far as tou are concerned, a tropical Devon. Dennis

From: Tony Watkinson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Rocky's xmas card
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007

Many thanks Rocky for the nice musical Christmas Card. Loved the Dendrobiums (I bet you can't give me the registered name of them?..........no matter)

But I wondered what the green squiggly bits were behind the Dens. Not spurs surely!!

Whatever, many thanks. And the very best of Merry Christmasses to all of our members and your families where ever you may be. It is really wonderful that we can all get so close yet be so far apart in this great world on which we all live. Bless the internet!!

I know that many in the north of the USA are not having the greatest of good weather at the moment and I would advise you to get shot of that area and move to places more sublime. (Says he who lives in Perth Western Australia where the temps tomorrow are forecast to be in the high 30's C to low 40's C. (Dats hot folks)

We shall be having our Xmas dinner (which my good lady wife has had me cooking on the BBQ on the back veranda all day) with good friends and family. (Ham, Chook, [that's chicken to you] pork, beef, etcetera, etcetera.) In our air conditioned front room.

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To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] A card from Roger John Grier
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007

Hi Roger,
Thanks so much for sending the lovely "tango" card. Wishing you and yours a
joyous holiday season and a happy, healthy and peaceful new year.
Wirey hugs and love and xxx and licks from Janet, Bobby and Asta

From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Schoenorchis fragrans
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007

Hi Esther,
your S. fragrans looks very good. It also looks somewhat different to
mine, in that the leaves are pointing in all directions, in mine they
just grow left and right. Thew leaves also look bigger, wider and longer.
The flowers are also fairly big. Do they actually smell?
I'm just paitently waiting for the flowers to come on my plant.

From: Ed Deckert
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] A card from Roger John Grier
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007

Thank you so much for the beautiful e-card!!!!! I have watched and listened
to it many times. Just wonderful!!!!!

And to all of the members of Orchid Talk, I want to wish you a Merry
Christmas and a Happy New Year.

From: Theta
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] A card from Roger John Grier
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007

From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] A card from Roger John Grier
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007

I also was unable to open your Card, but after much messing about found out
that it would not open because I have a Popup blocker installed but which
can be bypassed by holding down Ctrl key whilst opening the massage. Nice
card but I cannot see the connection of the Tango and the Orchids.
However, all the best to you and yours.

From: tony garthwaite
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Christmas greetings
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007

It's a 'grey day' here in Lincolnshire (that's east UK for our friends
across 'The Pond'!) but attached is a photo of the Orchid I posted "in
bud" before we went to Prague at the begining of December.
It's still in flower and brightens our living room along with the
Christmas tree!
Blc.Lucky Strike Mangkorn No2 and deliciously scented too!

From: tony garthwaite
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Repeat of previous
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007

OK folks, for those who have difficulty downloading those big
files....my apologies.
Here is a smaller version.......different... but smaller! The sentiments
are still the same!

From: Esther Koh
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Schoenorchis fragrans
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007

My plant has flowered twice for me but I've never been able to detect any fragrance. The flowers are 3X5mm across.

I think the leaves are pointing in all directions because I have shifted the plant from its original spot.

From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] WOC
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007

From: Ron
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] WOC
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007

> > I am going to Miami to have a look at the Orchid Show. Is anyone else going?

Hi Ron and Peter,
I would love to know where you are staying. We have decided to stay in Miami at the Hyatt Summerfield Suites since the Sheraton is completely booked. Originally we planned just to drive from home daily but this will work out better. Looking forward to meeting any, and all of our Orchid Talk friends who come to the show. Perhaps I can find a place for us to meet.
Janet Fabricant
Wirey hugs and love and xxx and licks from Janet, Bobby and Asta

Hi Janet and Ron,
I'll be staying at the Sheraton, as it is the Conference Centre it should not
be too difficult to meet. We just have to agree on a certain point and time.
Regards
Peter

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Keep it simple !!!!!
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007

I have just been having an inquisitive trawl through the Internet looking at various Orchid Sites.

One thing caught my eye, which was an advertisement for yet another plastic bottle of so called 'Orchid Feed'. I had a look at it, at the words telling me what was in the plastic bottle and what it was supposed to do.

I have some good advice to newcomers.......... "Bull shit baffles brains", and I should know as I did my National Service.

O.K. some people may say that it is the best thing since sliced bread, but in all honesty, is it ESSENTIAL to the orchids in your care???

My advice to newcomers would be, grow them to your best ability for the first few years, learning much, and if you think that this product, and other such items will help, then use it. However, I see no reason why I would ever buy such items.

I dare say that I will be accused of skating on thin ice, but at least I tell the truth.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: London Show.
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007

Does anyone know if a list of the people who will have orchids for sale has been published yet. ???

A Happy New Year to All.
A while ago there was a small discussion about the large size of Lycastes. While I accept that there are very large Anguloas,Lycastes and Angulocastes. there are also small and reasonable sized ones. In the attached picture on the left is a Hybrid Cattleya (bought for #11.00 from Lawrence Hobbs two years ago. Not bad eh Roger). On the right us a normal Lycaste hybrid named Fabienne and in the centre is one of my hybrids Lycida Wood Star. As I said before, there are many small hybrids and species.
Regards to all from a dry and mild (12C) Devon. Dennis

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Keep it simple !!!!!
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007

Roger, Back in the Victorian and Edwardian times, according to books I've read, cow manure was advocated as an ingredient in orchid potting composts. I think I remember reading that those chemicals can be found in rotting vegetable matter and manure. Maybe we could make a few bob by dissolvig them in water and selling the resultant mixture to a gullible public.
Regards Dennis

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Sizes
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007

Thanks for the very appreciable comment about the size of some Lycaste's. They sure do look well. Full marks to you.

As to the price that you paid to Lawrence for that very nice Cattleya, well, next time I meet up with him I will bend his ear.

I feel my Scottish ancestry coming out in me and saying that I still think that was just a wee bit expensive.........

Hard frost here this morning, bird baths frozen. Then all in the space of a couple of hours everything is dripping wet. Ah well, as someone once said, 'If you can put up with British weather, you can put up with anything'.

P.S. I am itching to see that RHS aka ['Retired Horticultural Sloth's] list of the Orchid Nurseries that will be attending the Orchid Show in 2008, so that I can ask about possible difficult to get orchids. And of course if I get any from Europe.....nor paperwork required.

> A while ago there was a small discussion about the large size of
> Lycastes. While I accept that there are very large Anguloas,Lycastes
> and Angulocastes. there are also small and reasonable sized ones. In
> the attached picture on the left is a Hybrid Cattleya (bought for
> #11.00 from Lawrence Hobbs two years ago. Not bad eh Roger). On the
> right us a normal Lycaste hybrid named Fabienne and in the centre is
> one of my hybrids Lycida Wood Star. As I said before, there are many
> small hybrids and species.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Keep it simple !!!!!
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007

Quite true Dennis, ah, those were the days.....a sack of manure suspended in the water butt.

> Roger, Back in the Victorian and Edwardian times, according to books I've
> read, cow manure was advocated as an ingredient in orchid potting
> composts. I think I remember reading that those chemicals can be found in
> rotting vegetable matter and manure. Maybe we could make a few bob by
> dissolvig them in water and selling the resultant mixture to a gullible
> public.

The last picture did not transmit (at leastto me). Here itz again. Regards Dennis

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] mail
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007

Looking at your nice Cattleya again, I would like to ask, as Tonto would ask
the Lone Ranger, "Kemosabi, why you have stick supporting plant"???

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] mail
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007

Can't understand why you say that the photo did not transmit as I got it and
it looked perfect.

A question for you Dennis, asked in the style that Tonto would ask the Lone
Ranger, "Why you have stick in pot holding up plant Kemosabi" ???

From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] mail
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007

Dennis, I received them first time but for some reason they look more
magnificent the second time.
A guid New Year tae een an awe.
Gordon.
(A very mild 7C. this morning after the -5 to -8C. we have been getting.)

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] mail
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007

I put it in two or three years ago when I repotted it and forgot all about it. But the flowers are so heavy it may help in support. Attached is a pic. of the flowers. I find photographing white difficult so this pic. is modified..Dennis

> Looking at your nice Cattleya again, I would like to ask, as Tonto would ask
> the Lone Ranger, "Kemosabi, why you have stick supporting plant"???

From: theorchid.man@virgin.net
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: A card from Roger John Grier
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007

Roger John Grier (theorchid.man@virgin.net) has sent you a Jacquie Lawson electronic greeting card.

Please click on the following link to see your card. If your e-mail program has not displayed this as a link, then please copy the following into the Address or Location bar of your Internet browser.

Alternatively, please visit http://www.jacquielawson.com and select the Pick Up Card option in the menu. Then enter your card code, which is:

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From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Keep it simple !!!!!
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007

Hi Rocky,
To be honest I havn't got the foggiest idea what this stuff is.
I can't find any of the words in my dictionary. All I gatherd is
that it is not about N − P − K and so I'm not interested.
Wishing all on the list a prosperous and healty 2008.
Peter from Bloubergstrand

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] mail
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007

You mention that white can be difficult, yes I agree, but can I possibly give you an idea of how I go about it.

Then I open the image with my programme that deals with all of alterations etc. I use 'Corel Draw'.

In Corel Draw I highlight the image and then under the mass of information about how to alter the light, darkness, shade, intensity, whatever, I scroll down to something called GAMMA. Of course I haven't a clue about Gamma, but it would seem that it has many features all rolled into one.

I normally find that with a white orchid I slide to the left to make the subject and background darker. Not much, but just enough.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] mail
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007

From: nancy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Keep it simple !!!!!
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007

Hey − nothing gullible about me, but I grow all of my
cymbidiums in pure, fresh horse manure. Of course,
they are strictly outside plants. Then again, I call
it HM, not "equine defecant extract" or something like
that.
Roger − I loved the ad − totally incomprehensible. If
you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with
bullsh*t!
Happy new year y'all − Nancy

> Roger, Back in the Victorian and Edwardian times,
> according to books I've read, cow manure was
> advocated as an ingredient in orchid potting
> composts.

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] London Show.
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007

I asked the RHS for this some months ago , and had a pompous reply from
someone who has no understanding of the way things work − as far as regular
visitors who spend real money buying orchids , are concerned ; more or less
telling me that a week or so before the show a list would be available and
not before.

I want to send an order to Mexico or wherever , so that they will bring
plants which are on my wish-list − not buy some mass produced stuff from
Holland which I can − anyway − buy in Christchurch Market any Monday
morning, or from my supermarket.

I pointed out in my reply that when they ask me to show − which they used to
do , year after year , they positively required me to commit myself some 6
months before the show ; (which as an amateur without rows of greenhouses ,
I was unable and unwilling to do − so never did show there ) and if people
do commit themselves months before, why can't I have a list until a week
before ?

Morover, the nurseries s I am interested in -( and if they don't go then
neither will I ) need to get their CITES sorted out months before too ,
so..etc etc.

I never did get a reply to that. Whether I shall bother to go to London is
problematical.

One of the reasons why I beginning to think that growing orchids is just
getting to be too difficult to be worthwhile.

( just home from my fantastic Sahara and Atlas trip − no orchids, but
Berbers, Touaregs, Arabs on camels . very colourful ; I mention this just to
prove I have not lost my joie de vivre...

> Does anyone know if a list of the people who will have orchids for sale has
> been published yet. ???

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Keep it simple !!!!!
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007

Maybe its worth adding that they were used with plain loam ( dead grass roots, no soil # not much nutrition there, then ) for deciduous calanthes and other #gross feeders#

> Roger, Back in the Victorian and Edwardian times, according to books I've
> read, cow manure was advocated as an ingredient in orchid potting
> composts...

From: Ron
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] WOC
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007

Hi Janet and Peter.
I am staying with Jordan S (whom you may recognise better as jnstropic)

> I'll be staying at the Sheraton, as it is the Conference Centre it should
> not be too difficult to meet. We just have to agree on a certain point and
> time.

From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Coel mooreana `Westonbirt'
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007

Maybe this has already been answered − I have not been online for some time,
as I'm in North Africa, and this is the first place on my tour ( around the
edge of the Sahara and across the Atlas mountains) where there has been a
wireless hot spot.
However, I grew the Westonbirt variety some years ago and I can tell you a
bit about it -. Sir George Holford lived at a house in the cotswolds called
Westonbirt and had a famous collection − the best known being the 4n
cymbidium − C. Alexanderi v Westonbirt, which was the fore-runner of many
of the better Cym. hybrids. I believe he was a member of the RHS committe
and put on some fine displays at Chelsea etc.
The true mooreana Westonbirt was said to have flowers 50% larger than the
normal variety − according to Gardeners World journal. I have to say that
mine was hardly any better than the ordinary C. mooreana in my collection .
The late Laurie Humphries who was effectively chairman of the RHS committe
in the late 60's ( officially vice-chair, but Maurice Mason the actual chair
was never there ) and who was extremely knowledgable − he ran Armstrong &
Brown , a fine orchid nursery at Tunbridge Wells , and was a great friend of
mine and taught me a lot − said that most of the C.mooreana "Westonbirt"
circulating was not the true variety anyway , and furthermore he thought
that the "true" variety was probably a hybrid .

But even the "ordinary" mooreana can be a very good plant − lovely white
long-lasting flowers with a very good habit on the plant. It is a pity that
these Coelogynes have not been widely seed-raised − or if they have , it's
been off my radar. There are many I'd like to get backj in my collection ,
this being one.

> `morning all,
>
> There seems to be precious little information generally available on
> Coelogyne mooreana `Westonbirt'? The one reference that kicks up for me
> off the Internet is to a Japanese site, but the flowers shown seem to be
> actually those of Coel. Mem. Louis Forget.

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2007 Archived Messages

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