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From: Esther Koh
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE Chiloschista Parishi
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007

My plant dries quickly too. I have been spraying it everyday up until about a month ago when I started misting it lightly every other day. Here is what it looks like:

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: see the picture
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007

I have taken a few more pics, but so far have not found time to process them
, and I'm away for a bit shortly ; if I get an hour I'll send them ,
otherwise, when I get back.

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: OrchidWiz
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007

Geoff, I saw the attached advert in Orchid Digest . (I have 3 mags -O. Digest, O. Review and OSGB Journal ) This OrchidWiz DVD is my first port of call when searching for orchid history or names. Mine is now a year old and it will be a while before I can afford the next issue.
Regards Dennis

From: Alex Scott
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Christmas thought
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007

Hello Orchid-Talk Brits − its nearly Christmas and the dollar is way way
down which makes it easy to give jay Pfahl's encyclopedia a lift. He has
had an expensive time recently what with hurricanes ruining a lot of
reference books and computer crashes. Any Post Office will give you a
twenty dollar note for a tenner and you can post it to Jay (address is on
his website) and it gets there no bother at all. He will put your name on
his 'Roll of Honour' too which gives one a nice warm feeling!

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: OrchidWiz
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007

Thanks Denis - after you mentioned it , I searched for and found it on the
net; but I was deterred when I ran the free demo # or rather didn#t run the free demo which wouldn't run for me.

I can imagine several reasons why ( e.g. firewall) but another of the reasons
is that some software is simply incompatible with my version of Windows (
Vista 64 bit) . For example, I have just spent an arm and a leg on the latest
new Nikon camera, and found that the images could not be viewed using the Nikon software supplied. Correspondence with Nikon's oh so helpful Technical Support ends with 'Nikon do not support 64 bit'.

I bought 64 bit almost 2 years ago in an attempt to do some 'future proofing'when a relative of mine - working writing software for quite importantprogrammes for no less an organisation than IBM, told me '64 bit is the future - it looks as though everything will be 64 bit in a few years'.

I'm a bit leery about spending that much and getting no result ; and even
guarantees of cash return if it don't work ( don't know if that is on offer)
are no real answer - it all means hassle, time spent, worry. I can do without
it - what's it all for ? A few names - like a famous tennis player said after
losing his Wimbledon title - hey, it's only a game, no one got killed, the
next world war hasn't started, etc... ( this comment may not be entirely
apposite , but what I'm trying to say is that maybe I can do without it anyway ...

From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Vanda Somsri Blue Diamond #2
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007

I'm at a loss for an explanation with this plant. It came in September as
an import from Malaysia. Strong plant, growing well and quickly produced an
inflorescence. The first flower opened and the petals were missing. Then
the second flower opened and the dorsal sepal had dark streaks in it. The
third flower was fine and all the other flowers as well. W H Y ????
What can influence the buds to grow like this? Light, Temperature,
Transport?????
I don't know. Anyone got an explanation?
Thanks
Peter from Bloubergstrand

From: Nathaniel Green
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Paphiopedilum Glaucophyllum − i think?
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007

I have been waiting a long time for this pap. to re-bud after I bought it at
the garden centre almost two months ago, on the way home I accidentally
knocked its' bud off :-(, so since then I have been watching a new bud
slowly develop and finally it has opened, after two long weeks of it been
fully developed :-). So I thought I would share it with everyone else, also
I have I think been able to identify it as paphiopedilum glaucophyllum
thanks to the paphiopedilum wed site
(http://www.paphiopedilum.org.uk/index.htm), but then again I could be
wrong!!!

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: OrchidWiz
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007

Geoff, I understand − I can alwauys use mine. I am not a computer whizz but a few (good) years ago I was doing some work for the MOD and I was working with an expert on computor systems ( he was running a section writing computer systems ) His advice to me was never buy a Microsoft syrtem (or any other ) untill it has been in the public domain for 5 years as it takes that long for all the bugs to be cleared. The public is used to clear out the last 5% of the bugs. Then be sure to get the latest update.
I doubt if this still applies but I may get your system in 3 or 4 yrs. Regards from a sunny if cold Devon. Dennis
PS. My system ain't broke so why fix it!

> Thanks Denis - after you mentioned it , I searched for and found it on
> the net; but I was deterred when I ran the free demo - or rather didn't
> run the free demo which wouldn't run for me.

From: Nathaniel Green
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: whoops!!!
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Vanda Somsri Blue Diamond #2
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007

I regularly tell people who are going to buy a Phalaenopsis to be very
observant when casting their eye over the flowers.

The people that mass produce orchids are in it for the money/profit and
quite rightly so as it is their 'wage' to pay for the mortgage, heating,
family items etc. So the mass production and crossing has produced some
quite ugly flowers. The most common types on a Phalaenopsis stem are those
that do not open properly, and those that try to grow three lips. But of
course they are still put up for sale !!!!!

From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Vanda Somsri Blue Diamond #2
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007

Peter it's in the genes. Some times a clone will get an award and then later on it starts producing crippled flowers. This yellow Bc. has 3 clones in the circulation. The first clone on the market has an FCC/AOS and for many years it was very expensive. Most of it's flowers were crippled, but when it was good it was pretty much like this picture. I bought the third clone to be available and it is the least likely to cripple. The Phals have a deferent problem. If the cloning is done with too much chemistry (used to shorting the process) the flowers will often be piloric and never produce a perfect flower.

Saturday I went to Fairchild Tropical Botanic Garden and took some pictures of the Lichtenstein display and you can see them at: http://togofcoralgables.com/LichtensteinatFairchild.aspx

Two other pages are worth looking at:
http://togofcoralgables.com/thekampong.aspx
http://togofcoralgables.com/TinsPlace.aspx

From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Vanda Somsri Blue Diamond #2
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007

Thanks for the comments on Vanda Somsri. With other words, something went wrong
in the line of breeding, but nobody knows, what. Unfortunately this can not be seen
in unflowered plants, so it is a matter of trial and error.
Kind regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Schoenorchis fragrans
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007

In August month Schoenorchis fragrans was discussed, but nobody said
anything about the temperature they are being grown in.
I had one some years ago which I grew in the hothouse. It was a small plant
and it just grew. It produced some tiny flowers and after some time it gave up.
In September I bought a new plant, mounted it on cork oak, put it into
intermediate conditions, water it daily and it produced new leaves and a
very strong root. It really looks happy. Flowers will come later, I'm sure of.
This shows again that one should try again after a failure, especially with
species.
Kind regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

From: ema.orquideas Perú
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Merry Christmas
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Schoenorchis fragrans
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007

Then I look at the 'bandage' and do I see a lump/pad of moss in there ? If
so, what is the moss supposed to do ?

As I have told people many times, do have a look at the structure of an
orchid root through a microscope and see the natural honeycombed structure
that SOAKS UP MOISTURE JUST LIKE A SPONGE. Then, the outer layer, the skin,
the velamen, protects the inner storage area from drying out too quickly.

Maybe not on this plant as it may have cost a lot of money, but on a low
cost plant, why not try out my method.

I know that many people will say that the plant dries out too quickly, but
in the summer/growing months it only takes a quick dip or a spray to fill
the roots up again.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Name that plant.
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007

Thanks to you all, I have now got names for the other two, so please can you suggest a likely name for this one.

From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Greetings
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007

Wishing all our readers a very Merry Xmas and a happy and prosperous New Year ( and especially for Rocky lots of new roots)
Gordon.

From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Name that plant.
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007

Nice flowers, Rocky. Even though it's a 'Cheepie', it certainly isn't a
duff budgie (sorry, couldn't resist!).

From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Vanda Somsri Blue Diamond #2
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007

I had a reply from the vendor and he states that this can happen with mericlones
when the growing system has been disturbed, especially root damage.
There is always root damage when plants are being shipped, especially from
Malaysia to Cape Town, from 100% humidity to about 60% humidity. The second
flowering should be normal. We shall see.
Kind regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Name that plant.
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007

To tell you the truth, I was typing that E-mail and thinking at the same
time about an E-mail that was sent to me yesterday. The person who sent it
said that, "It's quite cold HEAR today". So I guess that's how ones brain
gets in a tangle. It's only when my good German friends stay with us that I
realize how often our words crop up that have several meanings.

From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Schoenorchis fragrans
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007

Evening Rocky,
I know, I know, and normally I do not do it, but in this case I wanted to give
this tiny plant a bit more moisture. It gets misted daily and with 31 º C in
the shade it dries out in no time and the root shows that it worked. As soon
as the plant can hold itself on the mount I'll take the bandage off.
Satisfied?????????????
Kind regards
Peter

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Plenty of roots.
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007

Excuse my either deleting a message, or hitting this or that key, but I lost the message about 'Good Wishes' and the reference to Rocky wishing me plenty of roots for 2008.

I put it down to shopping in Salisbury in the Winter, when it is always damned cold there. It was even damned cold there when I invited by the government to play soldiers there.

So, when we got back home a large tot of brandy was splashed in the hot coffee. Well, that's my excuse anyway.

'Plenty of roots'..........but then I always have plenty of good roots as they grow in an inert medium and are not impeded by some awful muck called , 'Orchid Compost'. Couldn't resist the cue !!!!

Cheers to you all, you may think that a good Cognac is wasted in coffee, but it sure goes down well here.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Schoenorchis fragrans
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007

Satisfied you ask, I sure am mate. Nice to hear that your plant is doing so
well.

Cold here this morning with a very hard frost, but they say that it will get
a bit warmer by the weekend.....hope so.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Vanda Somsri Blue Diamond #2
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007

On reading what the vendor said about root damage, I would say that the
remarks surprise me.

I will throw my five-penneth in and say that the plant will always show the
strange happenings.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Xmas present to you all.
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007

May I wish all members & their families a Very Merry, Safe & Enjoyable Christmas.

From: Paul Johnson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Coel mooreana `Westonbirt'
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007

There seems to be precious little information generally available on
Coelogyne mooreana `Westonbirt'? The one reference that kicks up for
me off the Internet is to a Japanese site, but the flowers shown seem
to be actually those of Coel. Mem. Louis Forget.

Does anyone have good images of `Westonbirt'? Also, does anyone
happen to know when `Westonbirt' was named, and when it received it
first award? Finally, does anyone in the group grow both this
selection and `Brockhurst'? I am curious about the salient
characters differentiating the two.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Coel mooreana `Westonbirt'
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007

I know Ron and Kit Lindsay who are members of the West Cornwall Orchid
Society, and Ron really does grow some superb orchids. Their leaves are
wonderful, because of course the water in that part of England is so soft.
Some of our members who live in that area will smile.....

Perhaps one or more of our members will know how to contact him in relation
to your query.

From: Lynda Coles
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Coel mooreana `Westonbirt'
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007

try 'googling' coelogyne mooreana without the cultivar names. You will find some good photographs of 'brockhurst' and the standard form. additionally the sites that are linked to the photographs will show more.

From: Esther Koh
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Schoenorchis fragrans
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007

Here is my S. fragrans
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f359/rockhop/IMG_5358b.jpg

As you can see, it has fat roots too. Temperatures here vary between 23 to 33 degrees centigrade.

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Coel mooreana `Westonbirt'
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007

Paul, I grow Coel. mooreana in three forms − 'Westonbirt' − ' Brockenhurst' and the straight species. According to RHS records Westonbirt was awarded a CCC in1908. It was exhibited by Mr. Holford − the then owner of Westonbirt House. 'Brockenhurst' has been awarded in the RHS and AOS. Attached is a picture of Coel. mooreana 'Westonbirt' and a picture of the standard species.I can see no difference between Westonbirt and Brockenhurst other than that due to growing conditions. I have no picture of Brockenhurst but I will take one next time it flowers and 'Post it' if I remember. At one time I had over 30 Coelogyne but I got fed up by the contiuing arguements over names. These Coelogyne are named ''as bought ''

Christmas Greetings and best wishes to all. From a chilly but dry North East of England.

From: Jean-Claude GEORGE
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Greetings
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Greetings
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007

Thank you for the message, and may I just say..........what a superb photograph, many thanks.

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2007 Archived Messages

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