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From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Slugs again, copper tape − Aluminum − socks?
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007

More on Cu and Al etc;
I mentioned copper a few weeks ago and wondered if anyone had experience of actually Many garden centres sell up-market copper plant labels, clearly,withouit contemplating any problems as they penetrate plant roots! And I once heard from a forgotten source that a surrepticious copper nail will work wonders on an unwelcome leylandii root. (but that'd be mean to the plant!)

I suspect the reason why copper oxide is still effective is that it isn't as stable as aluminium oxide. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the durable finish on anodised aluminium a molecular veneer of aluminium oxide − Al2O3 − or corundum?

As for slugs needing gloves;
as you must know Hands, they have no 'ands; just a single 'foot'. They could, therefore, simply wear a sock. Simple!

Maybe we should have a floor of copper mesh? Or occasionally wash the floor with copper sulphate solution? Evaporation would leave the Cu behind. Any experience in that direction. 'ealth and safety issues? Legality? Environmental hazard (very probable!) etc etc? Ships and small boats are no longer permitted to use copper-laced paint to fend off marine molluscs (gribbles or shipworms) but I don't know if the ban extends to staging legs or greenhouse floors or frames. Any legal eagles out there?

Parys Mountain, Anglesey, Wales, a former Cu mining area doesn't seem to be over-run with slugs although there are Euglena-like microorganisms living in water with a pH of 2.2!
John

From: Beccy Holmes
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] P. of P.
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Pot. perm.
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007

I think I started talking about Pot per. on this list many years ago and I have been following the discussion in the wings as I use it to keep the rainwater butts clear of nasties .I had never thought of using it to stop algae as all I do is empty the tray and refill. I always assumed that when its colour went it had lost its effectiveness and so would have a limited effect on algae. I will now try it in my trays.
The last time I bought any I was quizzed by the pharmacist as it is used as an explosive. Has any one else been questioned.
Regards from a drenched Devon

Thanks for the advice on the use of P.P. My water Butts do have covers, so, as you say, I most probably will not have to use any P. pf P.

From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Slugs again, copper tape − Aluminum?
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007

I think you might require 2 different metals(Cathode & Anode) plus some
water with say salt , in it. 'O' level chemistry to make a simple cell.
I used to literally throw slugs pellets around, which did the trick,
although I had more snails than slugs, but still a pain.
Peter Fowler

From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Slugs again, copper tape − Aluminum − socks?
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007

All Aluminium has a coating of oxide. Aluminium is very reactive (electropositive).
Anodised aluminium has been electrostatically sprayed and cured by heat with an epoxy like substance. Not 100% sure ,but you can buy aluminium greenhouses in different colours.
Peter Fowler

From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] potassium permanganate
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007

Len,
The ppm is taken with a Hanna meter but I would seldom use it for testing PP, the colour visually is adequate. I used it to prevent Moss growth on seed trays, but don't now raise seedlings because my GH is full of Orchids, and seedlings and Orchids don't mix, well Phals that is.

Becky. My fathers water tanks used to often be a deep purple and whilst I cannot say what it did to the Nymphs, it certainly took care of the Tadpoles. It never effected his plants as I recall but, he didn't grow Orchids

With regard to slugs. I have said it before. Water Sluggit inside and out side the greenhouse at regular intervals, the slugs don't like it and for the member with the table legs, wrap some Velcro around the legs, table or staging, and the slugs won't cross. It's cheap and easily obtained. I used to put it around the Hosta pots and my Daughter grows Lettuce in pots, Velcro protected with complete immunity.

> Thanks to everyone for their comments, especially to Ron, to whom I
> address the following question: With what ,or on what, do you get a
> reading of 140ppm ? Or is it from a calculation ? Does anyone know at
> what ppm the PP would harm the plants ? I don't particularly want the
> PP in all my rain water, just that in which I stand the orchid pots.

From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Slugs again, copper tape − Aluminum?
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007

I'm just back from a walk which in part was along the Pilgrims Way , near
Winchester , and on St Catherines Hill there were an enormous number of
snails − all ( well almost all) the same species I was told − but the actual
name was only verbalised once and is now forgotten . These were about 2cm
dia. shell , banded with speckled grey and cream colour. When I say
enormous, I counted almost a hundred in one square metre or so, and there
was one or more every foot along a length of the path ; in fact there was a
constant crackling noise from shells we trod on as we walked along. He
numbers, something to do with the weather ,several inches of rain in last 24
hours etc ?
However this led to a conversation, in which one member of the club
mentioned that he had done some research on them, bred them − something to
do with pharmaceuticals I think. ( We are all chronologically challenged in
this walking club, and long since retired.
But I asked the question about copper , and got the definite answer that it
is electrical. They get a shock from contact with it . I was told that
probably any good conductor would do it, but if dirty, oxidised etc., the
effect would be reduced, and copper is the really practical one to use.

However we then approached the site marked as "plague pits" on the OS map ,
and the conversation changed to other morbid subjects... etc,

From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Opsistylis
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007

Honestly, I don't know what makes it flower. I have the plant since 2000 and it
never flowered before. I just changed the position to more sun. It could also
have been some lower temperatures in March and April. It could also be that
it needs to have a certain age. Maybe it was the blossom booster fertilizer.
David L Grove writes in his book VANDAS AND ASCOCENDAS and
Their Combinations with Other Genera, Vandopsis, most of the species are
difficult to grow and bloom. In the best of circumstances , they are not
frequent
bloomers. Most likely it is a matter of trial and error or patience to wait for
the big event.
Kind regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

> ...Opsistylis − does it need a blast of undiluted sunshine for a day, a
> week or a season ?

From: James H
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Slugs again, copper tape − Aluminum − socks?
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007

copper sulphate is poisonous to humans and most other lifeforms, you would
not want the residue on your floor, it is also a controlled product that is
being phased out as it remains in the soil for too long compared with safer
new products.

From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Slugs again, copper sulphate hazard
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007

Thanks for that James;
I imagined that it probably would be but then I belong to a generation that sterilized lab benches from a Winchester of mercuric chloride before coffee and a bun in the Union and fished around, elbow deep, for my dissection rat, preserved in formalin from the previous week. And how nicely those various volatile solvents were scented. Not to mention the lead soldiers we kids played with even long after the paint had come off (sucked off?). It's a wonder I'm still alive − or maybe I'm already embalmed!

I wonder if marine anti-fouling paint is still legally available for non-marine use though?
Or what is used to deter marine molluscs nowadays? Would it work on metal staging?

Normally we simply pick off slugs by hand and introduce them to the sport of flying but having just had the best Stanhopea bud sampled I'm warming to chemistry!
Cheers

From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Slugs again, copper tape − Aluminum − socks?
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007

From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Pot. perm.
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007

. used as an explosive. more correctly I think , could be used in the
manufacture of. as can lots of other agricultural chemicals − pot.chlorate (
total weedkiller) is a whiz for this , and there is something else − never
did find out what, referred to in trials as " agricultural chemicals" which
the IRA used to buy in big-bags ( 1 tonne) for their terrorist purposes.

And the last lot of tube bombers used Hydrogen Peroxide , which we have been
discussing for use as an insecticide , although I believe it is also the
basis of tooth-whitening in beauty parlours, and in toothpastes.

It is a wonder that orchid shows are not bugged by MI5 − perhaps they are !
(joke)

> I think I started talking about Pot per. on this list many years ago and I
> have been following the discussion in the wings as I use it to keep the
> rainwater butts clear of nasties .I had never thought of using it to stop
> algae as all I do is empty the tray and refill. I always assumed that when
> its colour went it had lost its effectiveness and so would have a limited
> effect on algae. I will now try it in my trays.

> The last time I bought any I was quizzed by the pharmacist as it is used as
> an explosive. Has any one else been questioned.

From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Slugs again, copper sulphate hazard
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007

Years ago , when I was in "new metals" as we called it, ( ICI metals
division − I was their Patent bloke back a hundred years ago − we thought
that sacrificial anode systems ( we're back to electro-chemistry) would
totally replace anti-fouling paints − as maybe they do in commercial and
naval vessels − the ones still made of metal that is − of course glass fibre
is better- doesn't attract torpedoes or toredo worms !

> I imagined that it probably would be but then I belong to a generation that
> sterilized lab benches from a Winchester of mercuric chloride before coffee
> and a bun in the Union and fished around, elbow deep, for my dissection rat,
> preserved in formalin from the previous week. And how nicely those various
> volatile solvents were scented. Not to mention the lead soldiers we kids
> played with even long after the paint had come off (sucked off?). It's a
> wonder I'm still alive − or maybe I'm already embalmed!

> I wonder if marine anti-fouling paint is still legally available for
> non-marine use though?

From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Dendrobium gordonii
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007

From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Slugs again, copper tape − Aluminum?
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007

Wow, there is some serious intelect out there, I am impressed! I personaly can't remeber my chemistry. I guess I need to give more beer to the slugs and a little less for me ;-)

From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: We are think of starting an orchid tour in the sping, comments please
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007

Hi,
I have a large ( 1 acre greenhouse) with 500+ species in the central valley of Costa Rica, a friend of mine has a lab to produce ochids in vitro.. We have many friends in different parts of the country with large collections and forrests to go walking through. There is Lankaster garden, home of some very fine autors Franco Pupulin. and Robert Dressler. Monte verde is full of minitures. A friend of mine just bought a brand new 21 passanger bus that he uses for his retireincostarica on SS tours, said he would rovide the buss and driver.

Where are planning to offer it in the spring when the schomberias, encylcia cordigera, guarianthe morado/blancos... are all in bloom. a couple questions:

What do you think, people want easy walking, paved paths or no hiking in the hills, cloud forrests?

we are thowing around numbers like $200 a day bus, driver,guide, food, hotels entance fees.

From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dendrobium gordonii
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007

However, it seems to be synonymous with D.macrophylla . The Plesteds have
offered this in recent times I think − worth a try ?

If you are going to Dinton Pastures in a week or so for the BOGA Fayre (
wish they wouldn't spell it that way − but that's an old man being grumpy
and pedantic at the same time ) I would try and catch Janet and chat to her
- she could have a plant which she would part with even if not on the list ,
since she was quite interested in breeding Latouria section dendrobes at one
time.

From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] We are think of starting an orchid tour in the sping, comments please
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007

Me, I'm still happy to walk 10 miles in the hills if I have to, in order to
see orchids, but easier walking increases the numbers of people who would go
, I think.

Personally I love Monte Verde cloud forest, but like a good
meal/cocktails/hotel etc which I know to be possible not too far away.
Remember that anyone coming from Europe is spending a large sum on an air
ticket to start with, and if the difference between 2 star and 4 star is
the difference between a 2 week trip for US$3000 or $4000 ,it won't make
much difference to numbers , I suspect − at least I have heard that this is
the case with orchid holidays in Thailand.

From: Lynda Coles
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dendrobium gordonii
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007

I believe this plant used to be called Callista gordonii, now classified as Dendrobium macrophyllum var gordonii (Richard 1834).

While giving some of my orchids a good soak I noticed a couple of centipedes were floated out. I hoped they were predators and would gobble up nasties and put them back. Does anyone know what they feed on?
Regards
Alex Scott.

From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Pot. perm.
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007

From: James H
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Slugs again, copper sulphate hazard
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007

you can still buy antifoul paint made from copper here still, i used it last
year on my bosses boat, i think there are copper free alternatives, but the
copper doesnt leach from the paint so it isnt that dangerous when dry.
fish farms coat their nets and ropes in a copper paint, but not the standard
anti tangle type, if they didnt the pens would sink after about a month from
all the mussles and barnicles that grow on them.
james

From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Centipedes
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007

From the ties when I was an animal lover (not that I'm
not now, but I've grown out of loving 'all' types of
animals, like spiders, scorpions and other creepy
crawlies that now give me the 'creeps'!), if I
remember well, most people confuse centipedes and
millipedes... Centipedes , the flat, yellow/brownish
ones, that do not curl up when touched, are
carnivorous, and feed on other small insects and
arthropods, so those would be helpful... The
grey/blackish ones, rounded, that curl up when
disturbed (millipedes), are herbivores that usually
feed on dead and decaying matter, but can sometimes
eat plants, specially roots and bulbs... If they were
that type, then you better catch them out again!

From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Centipedes
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007

General rule with things like this is that the fast moving ones are the
predators ( carnivores) and the slow moving ones are the leaf eaters, sap
suckers etc.

No doubt there are exceptions although I can't think of any in greenhouse
pests , at the moment.

From: Paul Johnson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Centipedes
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007

Centipedes are predators. Meat, raw, unadulterated once-alive meat.
Well, actually meat slurry after they poison their prey, inject
salivary enzymes, and mascerate tissues.

These should not be confused with millipedes that feed on bacteria,
fungi, slime molds, algae, decaying and decadent mosses and vascular
plant tissues, and sometimes what appears to be healthy plant tissues
especially seedlings [in cases that I have observed it seems that
such seedlings were already suffering from damping-off or mechanical
damage, at least at the point of initial feeding].

> While giving some of my orchids a good soak I noticed a couple of
> centipedes were floated out. I hoped they were predators and would
> gobble up nasties and put them back. Does anyone know what they
> feed on?
> Regards
> Alex Scott.

I just had two bottles of Nirvana neem oil delivered − cost getting on for
60 Euro − and supposedly 250cc each. The first one held 200cc and the second
about 225cc. I have e-mailed the suppliers.

From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: some plants in flower
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007

Bulbophyllum frostii − has flowers just like the traditional dutchmans sabot
( wooden shoe) but if you peer into the mouth and see the lip, it is mobile
- waggles about − I suppose a lure for the pollinator !

Ascda Krailerk White x Phairot ( lighthouse in French ? ) is typical Vanda
breeding for whites − they just happen so very rarely. But a nice flower ,
on the largeish size for an Ascda , and a nice colour too._

Encyclia Black Comet, one of the cockleshell orchids − is nearer black in a
poor light. Here you see it illuminated by flash.

Miltonia ( a proper one, not a miltoniopsis) Golden Wonder "Goodale Moir". I
imagine Goodale Moir is dead now − I corresponded with him in Hawaii 40
years ago − he was an absolute whiz on Oncidium group breeding − wrote a
book about it, which maybe I've still got ( he quotes me in it , but it was
only a throw away remark − no deep insight ). However, this orchid was once
so common that if you bought a dozen odonts, they threw one in free (
Mansell & Hatcher , in its prime).

Mokara Oumae . These seem to be very easy "vandas" to flower − ones bought
from shows a couple of years ago have flowered several times and grown too.

Phrag Sorcere's Apprentice. Now in a big pot − I expect I've shown it before
- has 4 spikes this year , all well branched, some 54 inches high ( I
measured when I found it was too big to get into the car standing on the
floor, after I'd taken a seat out.) A really magnificent sight.

Vandofinetia Blaupunkt − so sweetly scented − two good spikes the second
time of flowering this year − I have been using its pollen all over the
place hoping to make scented coloured hybrids.

From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Neem oil
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007

Received wisdom (I think it was from Paul Johnson but he'll correct me if I'm wrong) is that there is no advantage in spending multi Euros/pounds/dollars/yen etc since an ordinary mineral oil will do the same job.

I have to confess to not being absolutely sure what we, in the UK, call "ordinary mineral oil" but I can't see why heating oil won't do (Paul?). It is very similar to diesel oil but cheaper!
Cheers
John

From: Laura
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] some plants in flower
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007

From:
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Neem oil
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007

im pretty sure if you use heating oil you will lose all that it touches
,oil to use is veggy sunflower or some such cooking oil dont fancy deisel
sprayed all over grn hse youll never get rid of it
tom

From: Alex
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Centipedes
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007

Thanks for the centipede info Francis, Geoff and Paul, they are centipedes not millipedes so I think they are worth encouraging. Give them a dead fly occasionally :-)
Regards, Alex Scott

From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Sorceres Apprentice and others
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007

Herewith the pic I took standing outside the greenhouse doors ( which by
the way, are three steps down − the steps being hidden here) − the one
called original − and the second picture is the same where I have been
painting the background out − rather more difficult than I expected − no
doubt I could get it perfect − but perfection takes time.

From: Paul Johnson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Neem oil
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007

Hi John,
No corrections needed. Below are a few useful links that provide
information on the nature of mineral oil, at least over here. The
first one actually deals more with the use of oils in general for
pest control, but the paragraphs under the subtitle "Source of Spray
Oils" are informative.

http://www.ext.colostate.edu/PUBS/insect/05569.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_oil
http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/M7700.htm

In terms of pest control, indeed, heating oil, diesel, and most any
heavy petroleum distillate will work well to kill insects and other
creatures. Even plain Brent crude is useful in this regard, and as
evidenced by numerous sea and ocean beaches its value for biotic
control is very similar to that of North Slope crude from Alaska, at
least when vented by tankers interacting with well-charted rocks.
-:) However, I should recommend against the direct use of such
materials on highly prized orchids under cultivation, even if a
hungry mollusc is sketching designs in the bud bracts.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Dryadella zebrina.
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007

Does anyone know where I can buy Dryadella zebrina, possibly in the U.K. or Europe.

From: Geoff Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] some plants in flower
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007

I think that most of my small vandas ( neofinetia crosses) came from Kultana
( most of the big ones too ) − in Bangkok . From time to time − especially
after a wet summer, I can persuade my dearly beloved that we really need
some sun , and where better to go than Thailand − and after a mere 6 months
correspondence with the Govt. dept here, , involving demolishing a good
sized forest to provide the paper for all the forms, bingo, I have the
necessary permits to import some orchids..

For anyone reading this − you will probably find ( if you look at Kultana's
website) that they say "wholesale only" but I have found them very amenable
to supplying me with quantities like 50 plants − which I get to choose in
flower, on the first day I'm there, then they get them all ready and cleaned
up, packed up, Citesed ( I've invented a new word) ready to deliver to me
at the airport on the last day of the holiday .

And dont worry too much about "fifty plants" − they will cost in all about
the same as say five bought in flower at one of the big flower shows in UK.
And if you haven't got room for 50 plants, then I'm sure your orchid friends
will be happy to take them off you at the prices you can offer !

However, I guess they lot of wanabees waste their (Kultana's ) time, so I
send them a Bankers Draft with the forms − then they know I'm serious.

I guess that any of the big nurseries will do the same − on my last trip I
bought 50 dendrobiums ( all Phalaenopsis section) at US$2 each from KD (?) -
a nursery specialising in them − they let me wander amongst benches numbered
- 1 − 250 − each about 20 metres long − all full of dendrobes ; they mainly
sell the cut-flowers, and measure their output by weight − several tons of
flowers each month..- again I was picking them in flower, some with spikes a
metre long with 30 or more flowers − (all , regrettably lost − due to
problems which I won't go into now). but they were better plants , and in a
far wider range of colour − than ever seen in UK , and the nearest to them
would cost at least $US 40 or 50 I would think − each.

It's a great pity that dearly beloved nowadays wants to go everywhere on
Eurostar or sailing from Southampton, some nonsense about us being too old
or something , but one day I'll ply her with too much Champagne and get her
to agree to my next plans.

From: Esther Koh
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Schoenorchis fragrans − variability
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007

Here are 2 specimens of Schoenorchis fragrans. One has a longer lip than the
other. Is such variability normal in this species?

From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dryadella zebrina.
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007

From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] some plants in flower
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007

From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dryadella zebrina.
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007

I have bought from them a couple of times. The plants are not as good quality as Nardotte and they are reluctant to reply to emails but they have a very extensive range and reasonable prices − especially in comparison with UK nurseries.

From: Lynda Coles
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dryadella zebrina.
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007

David Steads' current species list names this as available, only to order though. If you contact the nursery they will email you a list.

From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dryadella zebrina.
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007

Rocky, It used to be a fairly common plant which you could get hold of easily from Burnham. I bought one a couple of years ago from a Dutch Orchid Nursery, but cannot remember the name.
In the early 80's, won Best Species in Show with one , when The Wessex orchid Society used to hold their show at the Town Hall , in Winchester. Common name Partridge in the Grass.
Peter Fowler.

From: Sylvain VAN DER WALDE
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dryadella zebrina.
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007

Hello Rocky.
Burnham Nurseries at www.orchids.uk.com have it.
Online at £10.00 (flowering size) plus £10.00 for delivery .
It's cool growing, according to them.

From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Dryadella zebrina.
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007

If you are planning to visit the BOGA Orchid Fayre this coming weekend you
could maybe get Burnham's to bring one for you or take a chance that
someone there will have one anyway.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Dryadella zebrina.
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007

Yes, those were the days when the Wessex used to meet in the Town Hall. I have joined again and at least can see one or two of the old faces.

From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Fw: Trade Show
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007

I have been invited to the Four Oaks trade show on the 4th and 5th September at Macclesfield.

From: Barbara Larimer
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: News article
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007

http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sundaysun/news/tm_headlinenorth-sites-make-plantlife-list&methodfull&objectid19535903&siteid50081-name_page.html

I came across this article on native orchids in the north and thought some
of you might be interested. Who knew about the Lindisfarne Helliborne and
Holy Island?

From: PG Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dryadella zebrina.
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007

Hi Rocky,
please keep in mind, it is not cool growing. It grows intermediate.
Best regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Barbara's keen eyes.
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007

I have just had a quick glance at the item that you spotted, and immediately' turned off' so to speak.

Let me explain. My friend has visited the area a few times and has told me how good it is.

"Lindisfarne is also home to some extremely rare orchids. There are 10 different types of orchid on the island, things like the coral root and the marsh helleborine which is really quite rare."

Yes, the Coral Root orchid does not grow all over the country and is localised and I doubt if I will ever see it, that is unless I am in the area.

As to the statement that the Marsh Helleborine is quite rare..........'Cobblers'. Unless they mean quite rare in that area????? There are plenty of them down here.

It really annoys me when people talk about this that or the other being 'Quite rare'.

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January	1-7	8-14	15-21	22-31	February	1-7	8-14	15-21	22-28
March	1-7	8-14	15-21	22-31	April	1-7	8-14	15-21	22-30
May	1-7	8-14	15-21	22-31	June	1-7	8-14	15-21	22-30
July	1-7	8-14	15-21	22-31	August	1-7	8-14	15-21	22-31
September	1-7	8-14	15-21	22-30	October	1-7	8-14	15-21	22-31
November	1-7	8-14	15-21	22-30	December	1-7	8-14	15-21	22-31

2007 Archived Messages

15—21 August