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June 1—7

From: LEONARD HANDLEY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] A good orchid book?
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 07:30

"Orchids for Dummies",Wiley Publishing, £11.99, try on-line
Len

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From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] A good orchid book? a handy hint
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 11:05

John,
Can't imagine who this author can be. Can't sleep for thinking about who it is. Hands seems familiar but then it would because I have 2. No doubt some one in the group will enlighten me.I am sure I have such a book but just cannot put my Hands on it!
Ronbow.

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From: Barbara Larimer
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] A good orchid book? a handy hint
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:35

Ron, Surely the HANDS-down choice would be not a HAND-me-down but a new HANDY
and HANDSOME volume by our right-HAND-man... is it Geoff somebody or other?
can't recall his HANDLE.

Barbara

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From: Roy Lee
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: New seedling
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 07:10

Hello all, thought I might share a new seedling in flower now. Its the first one of these I have had. Wouldn't normally buy one for no other reason that I don't want to grow too many different genera any more but I won this as a small plant in a club raffle. I think I could get interested in a few more if I could flower them like this. By comparison from what I have seen and from the originators website, Adelaide Orchids, I think it could be close to the top in quality and color.

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From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Geoff-hands down
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:15

Barbara et al
I have to hand it to you but what have you started? Orchid talk has always been a fres-h and s-traightforward way to learn about hands-on experience in growing orchids. Now we are caught up in this search for the author of a basic book and it's becoming more like the Guardian letters page!.
Meanwhile, in my researches (I'm currently stationarily hand icapped with an antibiotic consuming leg) so I've nothing better to do than batter my keyboard with my . . . wotsits. I've been to most web places (I now know what the rude name is for poker hands with two Queens ), I've l rediscovered more about Albrecht Durer's art ( his famous picture called . . ."Hands" !), a cure for sweaty hands and more to orchid relevance, an article I'd forgotten at (http://www.cvios.com/new_page_1.htm and an out of date (but no less interesting) website at http://ice.prohosting.com/cotswold/.
However, more to the point is to ask if your orchidaceous friends and relatives have access to the web? I'm sure you don't need me to tell you how instant a source it is of info (sometimes oddball!) and often just the job for an instant answer to a niggling problem or a query that'd take aeons to get from books. You must be familiar with Jay Pfahl's Orchid Encyclopedia site at http://www.orchidspecies.com/. The only snag is that it is a less tangible gift and books are so nice to hold in the. . . (wait for it). . . . . hands!
Geoff's modesty knows no bounds. He's also no mean digital photographer although I haven't seen his book on that. Of course digital refers to what we once counted on our digits; Mmmm, aren't they the articulated appendages that come in fives on our . . Hands and feet? That's the man . . .Geoff Foot!

Cheers
John

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From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] New seedling
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 19:50

Thanks for sharing.
Lovely orchid.
Nice images.
John

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From: James H
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Cattleytonia
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:25

i thought i would share this one, its
Cattleytonia (Ctna. Jamaica Red X X. Penny Kuroda)
i recently moved this year and this plant ended up in less than desirable
conditions and the pseudobulb is only half of last years size but the
flowers are over twice the size and way nicer colour than last years,
i have this one planted in a baked clay type material, its shultz aquatic
soil, and the plants that are in it grow very well for the first year but
all the roots from last year get burnt, i think its because this material
holds too much fertilizers, i have been looking for another non organic
medium but i cant find any local materials, im in BC Canada.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] New seedling
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:55

It is very similar to an Adelaide Meadows x some other Zygo − forget
precisely − which won a ribbon for me at the World Orchid Conference in
France. Which confirms your idea about quality.

They really are striking, these hybrids − and an interesting thing is that
people were trying to make hybrids from Zygopetallum s for very many years
but it seemed that whatever cross was made they all came out almost the same
as the Zygo parent, and then suddenly Zygonarias burst upon us, with greens
and pinks .

They all still come from Oz it seems − no one in UK is producing any hybrids
- but then no one in Uk is producing any orchid hybrids at all worth
speaking about − economics they say. A pity , and difficult to understand
how our labour costs can be so much higher than Australia. Or maybe the
truth is that breeding orchid hybrids never was very profitable ( which is
why very very few orchid nurseries survive for very long ) and UK businesses
today are mostly run by accountants.

( I read once that UK has 100,000 Chartered etc Accountants, and about 9000
proper electronic engineers. Japan has about 100,000 proper electronic
engineers and about 9000 accountants. Made me think, anyway ! ),

Geoff

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From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Geoff-hands down
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:55

John,
I've got to Hand it to you, that beats us all Hands down.
Ronbow.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] new thread
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 14:15

I am sorry to have to say that Ron Newstead is rather poorly at the present
time. I am in touch − or to be more precise, Joyce is in touch with Betty -
and I'll say more when there is more to tell.

( he has had serious open heart surgery some years ago , and now has a leaky
valve − whatever that means − but needs an op' in another area altogether
before heart repair can be contemplated).

For those members of the group who are still young , one piece of advice -
don't grow old, its gets to be horrible.

My wife is a member of the Voluntary Euthanasia Society , she is so worried
about living a life which is worthless ( at some hypothetical time in the
future , I hasten to add ) − that I have promised her that she won't need
assistance from third parties, once I am convinced that she is (a) in
unbearable pain, (b) it's incurable, and (c) she sincerely wants to put an
end to it, I'll do the necessary myself. After all , what can "they" do to
me that will matter ?

Sorry to introduce a down beat.

I have been rebuilding the centre bench in my greenhouse all the week ,
going from one down, one up, one down, to a flight of steps − nearly
finished, then I'll put the plants back ( its is very difficult to do a
re-build with plants. ) and take a few snaps and post.

geoff

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] new thread
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 16:40


I'm sorry to hear that Ron is poorly − please ask Joyce to ask Betty to
give him our best wishes for a speedy recovery.

> For those members of the group who are still young , one piece of advice -
> don't grow old, its gets to be horrible.

Well as Bob Monkhouse once remarked, it isn't for the faint-hearted.

--

Tricia

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

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From: Roy Lee
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] New seedling
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 15:05

John & Geoff, thanks for your comments on the plant & Geoff about the ribbon.
Geoff, as per the UK, we are getting short on breeding nurseries here also.
There are a few but only a small handfull if that, that are big enough to be called commercial size businesses. Even Adelaide orchids who produce the zygo hybrids like the Zygoneria and now operating out of Bali.
When they were in South Australia, I visited them regularly along with a number of Orchid Nurseries almost next door. When I first went there, you drove thru vineyards and orchards. It seemed like only a couple of years and there was nothing but houses surrounding these nurseries hence the price of land and council rates went thru the roof causing these nurseries to sell up and shift or close down as many did. Apart from one Paph nursery I frequent, most of the Paphs on sale here are imports from Taiwan or Vietnam, Cattleyas mostly from the USA but very good local stuff available, cyms are bountiful from local growers. Mostly all other genera comes from o/seas with a small group of hybridists here doing some great work. Aussie native hybrids of top quality are available from 2 local nurseries which are far ahead of anyone else. I've decided to do my own Paph breeding and cut down the costs that way, its a bit more time but with orchids you need patience anyway.

Roy.

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From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Orchid books
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 15:55

For those that contributed their thoughts :- Have A Nice Day Sincerely. Your compositions were appreciated by your readers.
Regards from an overcast Devon

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: some pics...
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 20:45

The Cyprepedium is growing in my garden − I think I mentioned that I was
trying a few. I think this one is called something Ullikens ? I don't
leave ;labels on in the garden − as I am more interested in the aesthetic
effect than being bothered about what plant I have. If I am going to buy
more, then I'll be more concerned ( e.g. all my roses are discreetly
labelled). I have three p[lants of this, and one got disturtbed and
replanted in a sunnier spot − this one. The other two are a little taller,
but no buds visible yet . I think I'll move them, when I can.

The Encyclia was mounted on bark when I bought it last year at one of the
fairs ; I put the whole thing in a pot − plaque mounts don't do well for me
perhaps because I am away a lot and they do not get sprayed by anyone who
is "looking after the greenhouse" , but I did not remove the bark so as to
avoid damaging roots. It made a really good bulb − well, a lot bigger than
the predecessor, and has produced a 60cm branched spike with 20+ flowers,
some 3cm dia. These Encyclias are quite long lasting . It's not the
brightest and most beautiful one , but a nice thing nevertheless.

The Hexisea has an interesting plant habit , canes like little cigars , but
end-to end , not side by side − and occasionally branching . You can see new
growths at the base of the bulbs here , and further new ones will follow
(?) from the tips after flowering ( I guess). A nice cheerful colour, and
flowers say 1.5cm across . Of course you want a big scrambly mass of plant ,
lit up with little red fires − and my plant only came from Peru or somewhere
last year . I think perhaps it is widespread , since I have seen it in
Venezuela .

Geoff

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From: Anguel Iordanov
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: pleione formosana
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 20:00

Hi Everyone,

A couple of months ago I bought two of these magnificent plants. So far they
are doing well but I really don't have a clue how to look after them. I know
there is a lot of information on the internet but I am after a practical
advice from someone who has experience with this family.

I live in London and at the moment I have the plants outside in a East
facing gardening. The plants are under direct sunlight until lunch time and
then in full shade for the rest of the day.

I would appreciate if any of you can help with advice on how to successfully
grow these plants.

Many thanks in advance.

Anguel

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: pleione formosana
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:00

Have a look at
www.north-hampshire-orchid-society.org.uk/culture/pleione.html
for practical advice from the Society's most experienced Pleione grower.

There is also a link on the page to the Pleione website.

Regards,

--

Tricia

I took a course in speed waiting. Now I can wait an hour in just ten minutes...

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From: jan
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] A good orchid book? a handy hint
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 06:55

If only people would speak clearly...

Anyway, I stumbled over one by a guy called Geoffrey Hands − does
anybody know him? Any good at all?

/jan

Barbara Larimer wrote:
> Ron, Surely the HANDS-down choice would be not a HAND-me-down but a new
> HANDY
> and HANDSOME volume by our right-HAND-man... is it Geoff somebody or other?
> can't recall his HANDLE.
>
> Barbara

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From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] A good orchid book? a handy hint
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:45

Jan,
I suggest you email him thro' the forum and simply ask
"Geoff, are you any good at all?"
You'll get an answer straight from the horse's mouth.
Do bear in mind he's only been growing orchids for 40-odd years and it does
take time to get through all 30,000 of 'em! But give him time.
John

"jan" wrote:

> If only people would speak clearly...
>
> Anyway, I stumbled over one by a guy called Geoffrey Hands − does anybody
> know him? Any good at all?

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From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] pleione formosana
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:45

Hi Anguel,

I live in London myself, and also have grown these
plants for a couple of years now.

The first year I didn't get any flowers, but managed
to get some nice sized bulbs. Then, last year, I got
great flowers, that encouraged me to get some other
species and hybrids of this genus. I grow them on the
North-East side of my building, so they don't get
direct sunlight. I water as much as I can without
drowning the poor things while they have leaves, but
let them dry a little in between waterings. Then, as
the net says, when leaves go yellow and drop, I take
them back inside, and put them in my south facing
bedroom, so they dry out and get loads of sun, still
in their pots. Last year I stored them in paper bags
in the vegetable draw of the fridge, but I might store
them in their pots this year. At the start of March I
got them out and put them in pots again ( a load of
work when you have too many), and then outside again,
without water to start with, and then, as the flowers
appeared, started watering. Many of them are still in
flower for me, but they have been quite late for me.

Hope this helps,

Francis.

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From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] A good orchid book? a handy hint
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:30

Jan,
That's him, WOWEE! Why did I not remember. His was the 1st book I bought,
and still have, and refer to. I must be going senile, but then at 80 I have
a right to be senile. But then Hands is not a common name, there's non in my
area phone book What a pity you don't live closer, I could have loaned you
my book, but that maybe would make our Geoff unhappy 'cos I think he's only
on his 2nd million. I'll have a good sleep tonight now that I know which
Hand is which.
Be that as it may, it's a good book with lovely pictures and well worth
having.
Regards to Geoff and all.

Ronbow.

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From: James H
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Pictures
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:05

i was just wondering if my picture of my cattletonia came through to
everyone as i never saw any replies or recieved it myself.

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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Pictures
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:20

Yes, it came through and was sent to everyone − haven't seen any comments
on it yet. I thought it was very pretty.

Regards,

--

Tricia

Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky, and I thought to myself, where the heck is the ceiling?

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From: James H
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] some pics...
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:05

how do you grow your cyprepedium, last year i bought my first one as well as
my first pleionies, i put them in a cold shed for the winter, very wet
winter here and i was told they dont like water in the winter. I lost one
pleione from mold but the other had 4 flowers on it and the cyrepedium has
started to grow but no flowers yet,
i grow them the same as the nursery here grew them in about 90% sand and 10%
fir needles.

On 6/3/07, Geoffrey Hands wrote:
>
> The Cyprepedium is growing in my garden , I think I mentioned that I was
> trying a few.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] some pics...
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:35

Cyprepedium culture ? I am an ignoramus.

My plants are in the garden, planted between the mint ( which keeps trying
to invade everything. ) and a rose. The flowering one is between a big
clump of hellebores and some dahlias ( tubers left in the ground over the
winter) which are now just coming into flower. It was a mild winter , and I
have a sheltered garden about 1 mile from the South coast , in perhaps the
most favoured place in England as far as mild winters and cool summers go ,
( I have Iochroma australis in flower in the same bed, a shrub/small tree
quite covered with flowers, bluebell colour, the size of foxglove flowers -
said to be frost tender − now in its third year in my garden − if it were
not so off-message I'd put up a picture).

geoff

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cattleytonia
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007

Can't you get Perlite James ?

However, if the material holds too much nutrient, the answer has to be to
flush it with pure water ( rain water, de-ionised water, R.O water.).

Do you use a meter to measure the nutrient content in the water you use ?
If so , you should aim to keep below say 500mS .One tip is to water
thoroughly with rain water with no additions, drain, collect the last dregs
of drainings and test the EC. If you have put in water with an EC of say 25
, and you collect water from the pot at say 500 − then the answer is not
flushing , its repot, and wash the roots well before you add new material.

If you don't have a meter, and don't plan to get one , look at your leaf
tips . Turning black ? That's too much fertiliser !

Your cattleytonia is of course a Broughtonia hybrid , and they ( B's) grow
for example in Jamaica in almost full sun ( well, some of them do, anyway )
so they are used to getting burnt. And since they are epiphytes often
growing directly on the trunk or on large branches of the trees, the roots
are quite exposed , and not well adapted to being in wet compost. I forget
what the other parent is − and since I am being hauled off by Mrs Geoff ,
I'll leave you to find out.

geoff

James H wrote on 02 June 2007:

> i thought i would share this one, its
> Cattleytonia (Ctna. Jamaica Red X X. Penny Kuroda)
> i recently moved this year and this plant ended up in less than desirable
> conditions and the pseudobulb is only half of last years size but the
> flowers are over twice the size and way nicer colour than last years,
> i have this one planted in a baked clay type material, its shultz aquatic
> soil, and the plants that are in it grow very well for the first year but
> all the roots from last year get burnt, i think its because this material
> holds too much fertilizers, i have been looking for another non organic
> medium but i cant find any local materials, im in BC Canada.

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From: Ron Newstead
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Burrageara Nelly Isler and others
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007

I experimented with pumice but it was not a success. Could it be that
whatever dissolved from the pumice was too strong?

Ron

Beccy Holmes wrote on 27 May 2007:

> Hi Geoff,
> re the rock lumps and watering − that's what I was thinking. I did buy a bag
> of pumis but couldn't bring myself to experiment with someone else's plants
> or commit myself to (almost) daily watering!

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From: Tina Stagg
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Another good book
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007

A useful small book (60pp) is Success with Orchids by Halina Heitz, published by Merehurst, ISBN 1-85391-433-9. The price in the UK was £2.99 when I bought mine, not too long ago.

Yes, I still buy basic culture books − I think it's a good idea to get right back to first principles occasionally.

Tina

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Burrageara Nelly Isler and others
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007

Hi Ron, glad to see that you are able to join in again !

As the pumice, I wonder if pH is the problem ?
My understanding is that it is volcanic in origin and the hoels are created
by what might be very acid gases ?

Geoff

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From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Anybody out there?
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007

My last posting did not appear − at least in my inbox. Don't know if its the same problem or new ones − I have just started using Vista....

Anyway here's a few photos of what's currently out

I wrote some time ago about drying out the Dendrobium anosmum − and this is the result. This is the best it's been and still looking fresh after several weeks. Smells strongly − sort of fruity.

The Cattleya is a first flowering − four very large flowers − the blue is (of course) optimistic rather than realistic. Bit like "blue" roses. However a very pleasing lavender.

The brassia is a very reliable flowerer for me − over 50 flowers on 4 spikes. The largerst flowers are nearly a foot long. Strong honey smell.

Andy

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From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: not hydroculture?
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007

I'd be interested to know Geoff what exactly changed your mind about growing in hydroculture.

Andy

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From: Sharon Williams
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Anybody out there?
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007

Andy: Could you please reiterate what you did to the Dendrobium? I just can't get mine to flower, even though I gave it a very dry rest, but couldn't do a chill. New growths are coming, but no flowers.
Thanks
Sharon

Andy wrote on Tuesday, June 05:

> I wrote some time ago about drying out the Dendrobium anosmum − and
> this is the result. This is the best it's been and still looking fresh
> after several weeks. Smells strongly − sort of fruity.

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From: James H
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] some pics...
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007

that sounds alot like my garden but i think it gets a bit cooler here but i
am also on the coast so the winter temps vary alot, from +20C down to -20C
with alot of rain inbetween.
Dahlias will grow here in the ground but only if its a raised bed with good
drainage.
hellebores and foxglove grow like weeds here,
i think im going to have to find a local cyprepedium grower and get some
tips from them,
i really am enjoying orchids that i can keep outdoors all year, or at least
close to outdoors, and cyprepedium are some of the most beautiful orchids
IMO.

On 6/5/07, Geoffrey Hands wrote:
>
> Cyprepedium culture ? I am an ignoramus.
>
> My plants are in the garden, planted between the mint ( which keeps trying
> to invade everything. ) and a rose. The flowering one is between a big
> clump of hellebores and some dahlias ( tubers left in the ground over the
> winter) which are now just coming into flower. It was a mild winter , and I
> have a sheltered garden about 1 mile from the South coast , in perhaps the
> most favoured place in England as far as mild winters and cool summers go.

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From: James H
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cattleytonia
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007

the only perlite i can get is the small horticultural stuff that goes in
potting mix, i looked all around for chunky perlite as its called here but
the only place that sells it is a society member who imports the stuff
himself and he lives a 4 hour drive from me.

i think i am over doing the fertilizer but i give them all the same amount
and only the ones in this material are getting problems, it doesn't seem to
hold enough water or wick very well so even with reducing my fert levels i
dont think i will be happy with it.

our tap water has a KH of 0 and no salinity, it comes from snow melt off a
granite mountain with a ph of 6.6, i dont have an EC meter but i have
aquarium test kits (my other obsession) and the fish i keep are soft water
low salinity fish and do extremely well.

regards
James

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Anybody out there?
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007

The difficulty with your first line, Andy , is that we all have your last
posting − at least we have the last one we received − in my case, yours of
31st May saying "Hi Rocky Try.."

But that may not be your last one.

As to your pics, that is a glorious Brassia/Ada whatever it is called.

D anosmum is still D superbum to me and yours has pretty flowers, but as
you imply the canes are not specially long . My Dend. Book says .5 − 1metre
in cultivation ( but much longer in the wild) . I've never seen 1 metre
canes, but 60cm occasionally.( but not on my plants I must add).

Blue catts ? Well, I do wonder . Lots of them in pictures , but I can turn
your specimen into a wonder with Photoshop ! However, I think the
difficulty is that there are some blue ones, but we don't get to buy them (
as meristems) only as seed derived plants , when the genome ( is that the
right word I wonder ? ) may be quite different.

Hydroculture − I'll reply at more length one of the days , but in the
meantime the generalisation is that it did not seem to work under my present
conditions the way it did under my previous conditions.horses for courses ?

Geoff

Andy wrote on 05 June 2007:

> My last posting did not appear − at least in my inbox. Don't know if its
> the same problem or new ones − I have just started using Vista....

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From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Anybody out there?emails and and orchids
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007

Andy,
There seems to be a general problem with emails; I have had one from Tiscali explaining that there is a problem with spammers that they are trying to solve. I've had mails failing to reach Germany, Canada, Orchid talk and even back to myself! When they do get there it is either withinn seconds or after several days! You must have enough to blame on Vista without email non-delivery.
Super photos. Nice plants. Envious!
John

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From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Burrageara Nelly Isler and others
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007

Ron,
depending on where the pumice had been (could it have been
surface-contaminated in storage?) there shouldn't be anything much to
dissolve from it! Essentially, true pumice is a volcanice glass which has a
frothy texture (a bit like a solidified Coke froth). There are compositional
variants according to the lava to which it relates but most sold pumice is
very silica-rich and for all practical purposes, inert. Some of the surface
micro 'bubbles' may be fractured and so the surface of pieces may easily be
wetted but, internally, the bubbles are mainly 'closed-cell' and the pumice
pieces don't allow much water in (that's why it floats).
Compositions of rocks are often expressed as oxides and pumice is
chemically like granite. Although SiO2 in the form of quartz is plentiful,
most of the other oxides are simply a convenient way of expressing the
composition. They are locked up in more comples minerals such as feldspar
(except that much of pumice is glass − it chilled before crystals had time
to form). Even so, as you can see from the list below, there's not much
there that could adversely influence an orchid . . . is there?
(from a pop site http://www.appropedia.org/Building_with_Pumice_5)

silica
SiO2
approx. 55%

alumina
Al2O3
approx. 22%

alkalies
K2O+Na2O
approx. 12%

ferric oxide
Fe2O3
approx. 3%

lime
CaO
approx. 2%

magnesia
MgO
approx. 1%

titania
TiO2
approx. 0.5%

Hope this helps in running down the culprit!
John

"Ron Newstead" wrote on Tuesday, June 05:

> I experimented with pumice but it was not a success. Could it be that
> whatever dissolved from the pumice was too strong?

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From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Burrageara Nelly Isler and others − more on pumice
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007

Hi Geoff/Ron,
Re; pumice and what comes out of it. You are right Geoff, insofar as terrain
derived from 'acid' rocks like granites produces acid soils but I would have
thought that to use pumice in the way we do as a supporting medium (rather
than as a 'compost' component) would present no problem. After all, for
gases to get out, something must get in to replace them and a characteristic
of pumice is that it is a bit like a closed cell foam.

We seldom have qualms over Perlite which is essentially a synthtic pumice.
The main difference (apparently to me) is that the pieces are aggregates of
amorphous material which will wet easier than pumice (although ours floats
and so isn't Being of fine particles, the surface are will be far greater
allowing even a low rate of solution to produce far more dissolved elements.
see http://www.schundler.com/pf-60.htm

Does perlite cause an acidity problem?
(ps; I enjoyed the creative spelling of hoels; much more attractive than
holes!)
John

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Anybody out there?emails and and orchids
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007

I have been told several times that Tiscali are going out of business -
which I think is not true. A perusal of the financial columns suggests that
some consolidation is expected in the ISP/Broadband market − it appears that
BT, Car-Phone Warehouse, Virgin and Tiscali have more than 90% of UK
subscribers locked up between them ( most of the minor brands actually use
one of the big boys , or are marketing exercises within one of the big boys
own organisations) . The City thinks that 4 is too many.

So maybe there are dirty ticks campaigns going on to soften up the
opposition and make it a cheap buy ?

All of the four have other businesses , but regard the ISP/Broadband as the
important link to spin-off in other areas , so none are giving up easily -
and at least Car-Phone are building bridges outside UK too.

Family IT people ( family means relations, not mafia ! ) breathe darkly
about the writing on the wall , and it will all be different in the future ,
and when pressed say " why do we need ISPs anyway ?

So , anything may happen and probably will.

Not that this is any consolation if your mail does not arrive !

Geoff

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Andy's and Roy's plants.
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007

Mornin' Andy,

Yes mate, very nice plants, especially the foliage which we can always see is up to your usual standard Andy, what is the name of the Cattleya please.

And hello Roy. [Most probably evening at your place.] Roy, that is a very nice flower as the markings are quite symmetrical, at least as far as orchids go. I am sure that I have seen something similar over here, and I have been on the lookout for it. Does it have a name? Oh yes, nearly forget, what type of 'compost' is it in?

Regards, Rocky.

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