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From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Name required.
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:00

It is not that we don't know what it is − the cross has just not been registered and so there is no short name and we don't know who made it. In fact there are no registered hybrids from C Charlotte Goddard.

Cattleya Nellie Roberts x Cattleya Charlotte Goddard has 25% C aurantiaca, 25% C velutina, 25%C dowiana, and the other 25% is made up of C gaskelliana, C mossiae and C trianae.

From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Lycaste lasioglossa
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:05

This is my first flowering of Lycaste lasioglossa − 4 flowers out and another 7 or 8 to come. What an odd lip − does anyone know how it's pollinated?

From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Another Sobralia
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:50

Two years ago a friend gave me a division of one of
his Sobralias. He claimed that it was the only blue
Sobralia species. I have just bloomed the plant and I
would call it violet. It's not blue but it is very
nice. Check it out:
http://togofcoralgables.com/FlowersofJan07.aspx
or: http://togofcoralgables.com/Sobralia.aspx
I have given up trying to name the Sobralias. Were
ever I look, I get conflicting information.

From: Max Redman
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Another Sobralia
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:40

Lovely flowers and the Sobralia comes out more reddish /pink than blue but
it may be that the photo does not capture the colour fully. I think that
you will find that the softcane dendrobium is 'Yukidurama' "King" which is
a well known hybrid. This hybrid was made in 1973 by Yamamoto and is a cross
between Den shiranami and Den. Pinocchio.
Have you checked the Sobralia name on Nina Rach's web page.? There are
pictures of most of the species and also some of the hybrids.
Max.

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Lycaste lasioglossa
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:15

Andy, Lycaste are a very rewarding genus and L. lasioglossa is a good exampleIt is sometimes known as the ''woolly lipped orchid '' but I have never seen an explanation for its lip.
It ia regularly used in hybridization to give a good red and they all carry traces of the woolly lip
RegardsDevon in brilliant sunshine ( for 5 minutes)

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cleaning and using the scalpel.
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:40

For these purposes there are NO air-borne nasties, and no water-borne
nasties either.
Virus gets into the plant by direct transmission of fluid from one plant to
the next.

Its like HIV , you don't get it by walking past an HIV positive patient .
You could get it ( maybe certainly would get it , but I am not a
virologist) if you smeared their blood on an open wound in your own skin ,
and there are other ways of getting it by transmission of bodily fluids
which I won't mention in front of the children.
Never mind what you have seen well-known professionals do tidying up their
plants at a show , flaming the blade is one certain way of avoiding trouble.

> Hi Andy,
>
> I have also just been doing some cleaning and tidying and
> sorting..........what else can we do in this weather ???
>
> I fully appreciate your sterilising of the scalpel, but one item that I
> always remember is this.
>
> I once saw a person do the same thing, while this certain person was
> standing and talking to other people.
>
> While talking ,the person was waving its hand about here and there, then
> after a few minutes this person then proceeded to use the sterilised scalpel
> again.
>
> My question is this. Would the sterilised scalpel become contaminated with
> any airborne nasties while it was being waved about in mid-air?
>
> If I used a scalpel to cut away a portion of, shall we say, one of my
> Cattleyas and then I replaced the scalpel in its safe place and then did not
> use it for a week, what would be the consequences? If when used to make the
> cut, would any virus etc still be in a good condition after one week.
>
> Perhaps some of our scientific members would like to reply.

From: Ron Newstead
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] HIghlight ???
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:30

Ah, I understand. You see, I have a steam-age printer so that I use a card
reader which puts the information into the computer, where I have some
photographic software which cleans up the images etc. before they are sent
to the printer.

> First of all I shoved the camera memory card into my Epson printer 'Stylus
> Photo R340. This then actuated [big word for me] Adobe Photoshop. Then
> when I clicked on each photo I just asked it to 'Auto Smart Fix'. Not that
> it made any noticeable difference. Of course it does do an excellent job
> with some photos that need correction.

From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cleaning and using the scalpel.
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:30

If you think about it, when you make a cut on one of you plants it is exposed to the air unless you were to use some sort of sealant. So exposing the blade to the air is neither here nor there. No the point is about stopping the blade inoculating the plant with sap from another and thereby transmitting virus particles.

As regards your point about leaving the blade ( to dry?) for a week. Well if there were plant viruses on it from the last plant you cut they could still be viable in my opinion − I would not risk it. Although they require a host to reproduce, they can remain in a dormant state in rather inhospitable conditions for long periods of time. (TMV is known to survive for months in dried tobacco products or soil) It is partly for these reasons that it used to considered debatable whether viruses were living things or not.

Lost another of my ancient apple trees in the storms of the last few days but today at least calm with a bit of blue in the sky.

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Cattleya
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:50

I bought this Catt. hybrid 41/2 years ago as a seedling. Last year the bud aborted but this year it is a beautiful flower witha light scent. There are three flowers on the spike and each flower is 14cms wide. I bought it from Laurence Hobbs and he gets his plants from Carter & Holmes in the US so I may contact them to see if they are going to register it.
Regards from a Devon getting colder

From: Roy Lee
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Name right or wrong ?
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:15

Hello all, I wish to find out if the Cattleya in the attached photo is correctly named C. maxima.
This plant was originally owned by an Uncle of mine who grew mainly Paphs but also cool growing Cattleyas. He purchased this plant many years ago from a species orchid nursery as an Outcross of 2 good clones. I have this plant now and the growth habit and size, flower size and shape, flowering time ( even though it flowers atleased twice a year for me ) appear to be correct for C. maxima. The flower colour and the lip colour and markings have me concerned. There is nothing on the net or in books I can find that are close.
Your assistance please.
Regards, Roy.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Roy's Cattleya.
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:30

I just have this thought that it is not Cattleya maxima. This is because the ones that I see have lines all the way up to the top of the lip. Also, I look at Cattleya Lueddemannian and I see some similarity.

I always look at other items in the photos that are posted to our Club, and I would ask you this question:

Do you water/spray over the leaves with tap water? I ask this as the markings on the leaves look like tap water marks. Due of course to hard water leaving the chalky deposits.

From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Name right or wrong ?
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:30

"Cattleya maxima is one of the few species of the large-flowered cattleyas that are easy to identify from their color. Cattleya maxima has a characteristic yellow stripe down the center of the lip in all color forms including the albas."

Withner also mentions " a disinctive yellow band extending from the throat to the apex of the lip"

> Hello all, I wish to find out if the Cattleya in the attached photo
> is correctly named C. maxima...

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Name right or wrong ?
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:00

Carl Withner 'The Cattleyas and their relatives'- Vol 1_The Cattleyas , p93
, says that Maxima is different from other labiate cattleyas, in particular
, :-
'The column structure is also somewhat different, showing more lateral
processes at the front instead of the usual teeth. They cross over each
other in front of the anther cap' . Sounds as though this is a good
diagnostic test .

If you decide that it is not the true species and you have no room for it in
your collection , I think that a few of us out here will fight for a piece
of it − species or hybrid !

From: ema.orquideas Perú
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Name right or wrong ?
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:40

The flower is not C. maxima.I have one (same like yours) with the name : Cattleya intermedia X Cattleya warscewickzii.I bought the plant here in Perú.

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