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June 22—30

From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dactyl orchids.
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:10

Hi Rocky,

I haven't had much time to answer you any earlier, but
here it goes.

The problem was that I had this dactylorhiza which was
growing quite well. This year it had three growths and
a flower spike. Then the plant started to whilt and
even though the flowers did open, the whole plant died
within days of it. I was wondering if this is normal
for poted dactylorhizas or whether I should have done
something else.

It doesn't matter much now, as the whole of the
overground plant has died now, and I repotted the
underground tuber, but it didn't look too great, so I
don't know if I'll get new shoots again next year.

Francis.
--- Roger Grier escribió:

> Hi Francis,
>
> I have been on holiday and got back a few days ago.
> Read quickly all of the Club's E-mails, and then
> deleted what I did not need to save. I guess I
> deleted your E-mail about Dactyl orchids, so could
> you please tell me what it is that you were
> interested in.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Dactyl orchids.
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:25

Hi Francis,

It does appear from what you say that your plant is not doing very well. Can you take it out of the pot and put it in the garden?

This year has seen some very hot days, and it is possible that the plant did not like it. All of mine are in the garden and they have done well, but some of them did not stay in flower very long.

Other than that Francis I can't say what caused your plant to suffer. If you can't plant it in the garden, maybe a much larger pot may help.

Kind regards, Rocky.

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From: P G Hieke
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Fwd: Encyclia Citrina photos
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:35

What a beautiful flower. Congratulations for flowering it.
I wish I could get one, but there is nothing available here
in South Africa. I had one some years ago, it flowered every
year and then something nibbled at the new growth and that
was the end of the plant. It never started to grow again.
Kind regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

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From: dennis READ
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Night time temperature differential
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:05

Thanks Geoff, but I would like to control two houses and three fans at a
cost of UKP350.00. and so I am looking for e cheaper way and I am sure that in
the past a member gave a design using Maplin parts.Regards

"Geoffrey Hands" wrote:

> The one made/sold by Simply Control does it all, quite simply...

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Fwd: Encyclia Citrina photos
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:30

I wonder if anyone has ever seen a multi-growth plant of this species ? Not
me !
And has anyone ever kept one alive for more than a few years ? Not me, and I
have never heard of anyone who did...
Even to flower it at all , is a great achievement in my book.

Geoff.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Encyclia Pollardiana.
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:15

Hi all,

My first flowering of Encyclia Pollardiana. I purchased it last year and I am a little surprised at the thin stem and the small flowers when you see the size of the leaves and the very hard bulbs. However, I do like it very much indeed.

There is also just a very slight nice fragrance.

May main concern is this. I do seem to have trouble with the very hard bulbed Encyclias and Epidendrums. They do not want to throw up new growths like other orchids.

Does anyone else have similar troubles.

Kind regards, Rocky.

P.S. How's the size and compression Pieter.

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From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Fwd: Encyclia Citrina photos & Culture
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:00

Dear All, , I had a Encyclia citrina for about 11 years. I bought it
at
the RHS Centenary Show celebrations, some time back, from a Mexican
nursery.

It was mounted on bark and they said it could not be pot grown well as
it
requires a great deal of light and very little water, just enough to
keep it
ticking over. A Winters rest is required and some very dilute general
nitrogen fertilizer in the Spring and very dilute Potash feed, (Tomato
feed)
in the Autumn.

My plant flowered most years and it had a great fragrance. It was grown
very
high up with a little old computer fan blowing on it.

One of the 'tricks' was not to water it too early when the new growth
was
showing; otherwise it would die and set back the plant. cf. Dendrobium
infundibulum.

However after about 10-11 years it just died on me. A far as I was
concerned
I had not changed any of the culture, but you never know??!!

Hope this helps in a little way.

Peter ,Alton, Hants..

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From: Theta Sigma
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Fwd: Encyclia Citrina photos
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 01:15

Here is a close-up showing what appears to be some sort of early growth
(pollen? flower?) on the flower stem of the Encyclia citrina. This tiny
thing atrophied as the growth continued. It's about 1/4 of an inch
long. Anyone know what it's all about?

-mark-

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From: Theta Sigma
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Fwd: Encyclia Citrina photos & Culture
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 01:15

Thanks for your information on its culture Peter.

-mark-

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Fwd: Encyclia Citrina photos & Culture
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 05:25

11 years is pretty good .
I reckon that a great number of my orchids don't last that long in my
collection for various reasons . Some die. Others don't fit in because I
change my ideas ( like the times I first specialised in then switched to
something else, and sold all my plants of Disas , masdevallias , miniature
cymbidiums pleiones , calanthes ... I've even been round the circuit
twice − with cymbidiums − and currently am expanding my cattleyas for the
second time . And then there are those plants which do so well that they
outgrow their space, get divided up into 20 pieces, and sometimes all the
pieces die .
Orchids are funny things.
Orchid growers perhaps even funnier ! ( present company excepted , of course
).

Geoff.

Peter Fowler wrote:

Dear All, , I had a Encyclia citrina for about 11 years.....

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: A true story.
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:00

Hi all,

I must say that I so very much enjoyed Geoff's comments:

> I reckon that a great number of my orchids don't last that long in my
> collection for various reasons . Some die. Others don't fit in because I
> change my ideas ( like the times I first specialised in then switched to
> something else, and sold all my plants of Disas , masdevallias , miniature
> cymbidiums pleiones , calanthes ... I've even been round the circuit
> twice − with cymbidiums − and currently am expanding my cattleyas for the
> second time . And then there are those plants which do so well that they
> outgrow their space, get divided up into 20 pieces, and sometimes all the
> pieces die .
> Orchids are funny things.
> Orchid growers perhaps even funnier ! ( present company excepted , of course).

I feel sure that Geoff's comments fit most of us exactly. Don't feel down in the dumps if you loose an orchid now and then.........don't forget that we are trying to grow plants from all over the world. Not like a chrysanthemum or dahlia grower who just concentrate on one type.

I guess we all change our systems from time to time, and as for 'The Circuit', yes I am sure we have all been round it..........many times. But then when we do try to grow plants from such wide extremes then we have to try different ideas.

But it sure is interesting.

Can't remember which lap I am on at the moment !!! Very interesting hobby.

Regards, Rocky.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Cattleya Citrina.
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:05

Cattleya citrina.

I am still waiting to see a few photos of this orchid growing in its native habitat. And for one reason, to see exactly the position that it grows in.

Can anyone come up with such images please.

Then I will tell you WHY I wish to see the photographs.

Regards, Rocky.

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From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Encyclia Pollardiana.
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:50

Rocky, I have some info. in my book "The Genus Encyclia in Mexico", by
Dressler & Pollard & I attach 3 pages on that species. I have also found
those type of Encyclias difficult to grow well & are more Intermediate
growers than cool.(with me anyway).

Acknowledge authors of the book.

Regards

Peter Fowler, Alton, U.K.

Birthplace of William Curtis.

Roger Grier wrote:

Hi all,

My first flowering of Encyclia Pollardiana. I purchased it last year and I
am a little surprised at the thin stem and the small flowers when you see
the size of the leaves and the very hard bulbs. However, I do like it very
much indeed.

There is also just a very slight nice fragrance.

May main concern is this. I do seem to have trouble with the very hard
bulbed Encyclias and Epidendrums. They do not want to throw up new growths
like other orchids.

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From: P G Hieke
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Encyclia Pollardiana.
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:05

Hi Rocky,
the flower and stem look like any other Encyclia to me, however
the leaves seem to be enormous. I have not seen such big leaves
on an Encyclia yet. For me they grow new bulbs like any other
orchid. No problems there.
Yes the picture is just the right size. Well done.
Kind regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Encyclia Pollardiana.
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:45

I started collecting Encyclias a couple of years ago , going through the
lists offered by some of the South American nurseries, and pre-ordering a
few to be brought to UK ( or France for example,) when they paid us a visit.
I thinjk you would not get very far enquiring for them from our UK
nurseries.

Like so many orchids, they can be very variable and ordering E cordigera
could get any of half a dozen colour versions, and maybe size etc too. But
the few different species I have flowered so far have mostly pleased me ,
although one did turn out to have flowers only a few millimetres across,
even if it did produce them in bunches of a dozen.

I now have cordigera v semi-alba in flower , 5 flowers open and another
five buds developing , and I‹ll put a picture up in a few days when more are
out. Chocolate petals and sepals, and a snow-white lip with a cerise strip.
No fragrance at the moment − 9pm, and the plant on my desk − but maybe in
daytime in the sun ?

The difficulty in culture that I find, is that when they come here they
either have two winters in succession , or two summers , the seasons being
six months out in the southern hemisphere, and I find that the first growth
I get is a poor one. It takes a plant time to settle down , but the second
growth I find is rather better , and maybe by the 3rd year I will see much
more major improvement . Maybe this is what you have in mind Roger when
you say you have trouble ?

But they are ‘different’, and in my book worth persisting with.

Geoff.

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Valid point.
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:05

Mornin' all,

Thanks to those of you that offered help about my Encyclia Pollardiana.

A very valid point that Geoff bought up was of course the reverse of seasons when a plant is imported from 'tother side of the equator. This is a very strong point that many growers tend to forget.........me included sometimes. As I said before, we do try to grow plants from all over the globe !!!

Peter, maybe this is why you say that you do not find them so difficult. Do you think that it if you import from South America to your side of the equator that your seasons are the same.

Regards, Rocky.

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From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Equator and Seasons
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:35

Rocky, I have always had a bit of a problem sorting out the seasons north
and south of the equator.

Try this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasons

I always found plants that I imported from the southern hemisphere, took a
couple of years to establish. There were different reasons for this; some
were just ripped from their substrate and had a poor dry root system eg.
Floralia.

Alvim Siedel, roots wrapped in moist moss and established fairly quickly.

Peter Fowler, Alton, U.K.

Birthplace of William Curtis.

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From: P G Hieke
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Valid point.
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:20

Hello Rocky,
Yes the seasons are the same as South America. Besides that I try
to get new plants always in the spring, so that they have a growing
season in front of them. They don't mind to carry on growing for
another season, but it is a very big difference if they come into
the winter season and then they sit and sit and forget to start
growing again. There are exception to the rule and that is for Phallies,
as they are always growing it does not matter so much. Case in point
are the seedlings that I bought last year in Dijon in March and they
came into our winter and just carried on growing. Three are in flower
now. The flowers a bit small, but next year they will be bigger.
Kind Regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Phalaenopsis Shilleriana.
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:30

Hi everyone,

I am hoping that I will get some replies from all over the world to this question.

My friends live in Barbados, and Linda has a wonderful Phalaenopsis Schilleriana growing in a clay pot with holes in it. The plant hangs from the branch of a tree. Plenty of shade.

Trouble is, it is very reluctant to flower. Can anyone suggest why and what to do.

Kind regards, Rocky.

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From: mojca klancic
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cattleya Citrina.
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:45

Have you tried looking under the name Euchile citrina or Encyclia citrina?

Hope this helps you,

Mojca from Slovenia

"Roger Grier" wrote:

Cattleya citrina. I am still waiting to see a few photos of this orchid growing in its native habitat.

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From: Janet Fabricant
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Phalaenopsis Shilleriana.
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:50

Hi Rocky,
My first question would be does the plant have enough sun and light? And is it fed? Wirey hugs and love and xxx and licks from Janet, Bobby and Asta

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From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Phalaenopsis Shilleriana.
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:10

In Florida we see our Phals start blooming after a few
cool nights(65F). It is very noticeable around this
area. I live close to the ocean and my yard is warmer
then growers 20 miles inland. The inland people have
Phales in bloom two weeks before mine. Sooo.... The
islands south of us may not get that magic drop in
temperature.

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From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Phalaenopsis Shilleriana.
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:20

Hello Rocky,
My friend is a very experienced orchid grower and breeder. My schillariana was a Huge plant when I got it but over 2 years plus it just gradually faded away. My friend says the species can be difficult to grow and suggests they should be kept some what on the dryish side, more so than the normal or other phals.
He also says that they usually do better when mounted. I wonder if your friends plant is permanently in the tree Whilst the pot is clay and has many holes it seems that they are all blocked by roots, and if or when your friend waters it may well be that water remains in the pot, however a root growth like that would seem to indicate that all is well in that department.

Very interesting picture.
Ronbow.

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From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Cattleya porphyroglossa
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:55

My Cattleya porphyroglossa − a recent purchase − has flowered for the first time. However the flower has not opened fully as you can see in the pictures. On looking on the net I don't see this given as a characteristic or a tendency and I am wondering if this is a duff specimen or a bit of protest about cultural change. Anyone got any ideas or experience with this species?

It also has a wonderful perfume − not like the usual sort for cattleyas but very similar to my Zygolum Louisendorf which is also flowering now.

Andy

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