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June 8—14

From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Dacthyloriza?
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 08:25

Hi,

I have a Dac. sphagnicola which I have been growing
for about three years now. This is the first time it
has flowered for me, and I was very excited when this
year, it produced two large(r) growths and a smaller
one, which only started earlier this year.

One of the main growths started to spike and it is now
opening its flowers, the other large growth started to
look a bit limp a couple of weeks ago, and it is now
looking rather sick!

I am worried as this is my first Dac. and don't know
if this kind of behaviour is normal, as the other two
growths look fine and healthy.

What is the other growers' experience and advice?

Thanks in advance,

Francis.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dacthyloriza?
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 13:15

What is Dac , Francis ?
I looked at the IOC handbook , and that does not recognise it .

Geoff.

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From: P G Hieke
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Ascofinetia.
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 18:00

Nice flowers. What is the name of the plant?
And, please, make the pictures smaller. It takes
ages to download.
Kind regards
Peter from Blobergstrand

Roger Grier wrote:

Hi all,

MyAscofinetia never fails to flower and is growing a few side shoots.

A couple of photos for you to look at.

Rocky.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dacthyloriza?
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 18:10

Aha − 2nd time around and the word "Dacthyloriza" appeared in my
consciousness !

You mean Dactylorhiza . The genus which includes our common spotted orchid.
A European native.

I did once dream of establishing a European orchids "greenhouse" − which
would have been a shade house, no heating, I expect − or even an alpine
house ( in gardening terms). But I concluded that the extremely short flower
life, the general difficulties, and the likelihood of ending up in clink if
I was found collecting , made it a non-starter.

I'm not suggesting you did anything illegal of course .

But , I rather expect you to be on your own on this one, not many of us have
much more than the odd patch of natives in our garden .

My book − Delforge − European Orchids − says − "full sun to semi-shade, on
acid damp to marshy soils, high peatbogs, and marshy deciduous or coniferous
woods , up to 600m high ( in Germany) but distributed from the Atlantic -
French Ardennes, Belgian Lorraine, to Sweden up to to Dalsland. Local and
rather rare...."

Geoff.

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From: Sharon Williams
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Ascofinetia.
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 18:50

Hi Rocky: What temps and light do you grow this beauty in?
Sharon in Calgary

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From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] − RCDs GFIs, PCs and VIPs like us
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:30

Interesting that we all accept these acronyms (RCD, GFI, to which we could add AC, CD, DC,VHF, UHF, TV, CCD, LED, LEM, EVA ad infinitum ) although there are no (?) accepted rules for pronouncing them. Some change their meaning in midstream (DVD). Some roll off the tongue like a word (CAM), others require their letters to be spoken separately (RCD). English friends will recall the invention of the late Ronnie Barker who, in one of his comedy sketches many years ago, used the following (or similar) brilliant script to propose a simplification of the English language with a technique long before texting, similar to the use of acronyms − but not quite!.

Customer goes into a cafe and asks the waitress for; " M N X 4 2 ". A little while later she returns with the comment " V F N10 E X.". Customer responds; " Y F N U N E X ? " and is answered " I F E10 M ".
(for the non-linguists (!) this translates to "Ham and eggs for two" . . ."We haven't any eggs" . . "Why haven't you any eggs?" . . ."I have eaten them").

Maybe that would separate the language division across the 'pond' eh? Think how more compact our emails could be! Incidentally, do any of us fall asleep in our greenhouses? (AFBs − below from James)
John Stanley

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From: Paul Johnson
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] − RCDs GFIs, PCs and VIPs like us
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 03:25

Hmm. I guess that I am not part of the "we all" there, John. I
would consider the vast majority of your examples as abbreviations
[less the periods], not acronyms. Curiously, acronym is not in my
edition of the OED.

Paul

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From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dacthyloriza?
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 07:40

Thanks for the correction, Geoff... I can never get
the right spelling for them unless I am looking at the
books!

Yes, I can imagine that there aren't many people
growing the hardy varieties of orchids.

I bought from someone who sells on ebay, she gets her
supply of hardy orchids wholesale from phytesia, the
lab that has featured on this group's discussion a few
times. I have also considered buying and selling from
them, but the idea of 'starting' that sort of business
is a bit daunting, as I do not have any idea as to how
to go about this kind of things.

I also have the book from Delforge. I think is
'Orchids of Britain and Northern Europe'? The thing
that gets me is that the orchid had been growing well
right up to now, and then, suddenly, one of the
growths started to go, whilst the other two are
looking fine, and the flowers are looking good, too!.

Francis.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] − RCDs GFIs, PCs and VIPs like us
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:15

'Acronym' , a WORD made from the first letters or syllables and usually
pronounced as a word in its own right.. Chambers 21st century Dictionary.

'Abbreviation'..shortening.

Hence acronyms can be distinguished from abbreviations . etc is an abb.
The RCD which we started from is an acronym .

What, by the way is ABC ? It means alphabet ( perhaps) so is not an abb. Nor
an acronym ?

And BTW (e-mail shorthand) I don't go to sleep in the greenhouse . I never
go to sleep if I am interested. Only when bored , as after the first 3 ½
minutes of almost any tv programme.

Geoff.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dacthyloriza?
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:15

BTW jn case of doubt Francis, I was not trying to be clever in not
recognising DAC , I just could not imagine what you had in mind − did think
it might be Diacrium, , but they are hard to find !

Geoff.

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: wet and dry thermometer ( Mason's hygrometer) − help wanted
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:30

I find that the wick − which keeps one bulb wet − tends to rot − probably
due to being always wet and warm . And I have not found a source of supply
of replacements . Any ideas ?

I e-mailed the suppliers, but had no reply.

The wick is a sleeve, about the size of a thin pencil , probably only
cotton. An ordinary lamp wick from my ironmonger is not much use , being
flat, it only touches the bulb on one side, and that's not enough for it to
work properly. I have tried cutting pieces of handkerchief and tieing with
cotton, but its awfully fiddly.

Geoff

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From: Sylvain VAN DER WALDE
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] wet and dry thermometer ( Mason's hygrometer) − help wanted
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:35

Geoffrey Hands wrote:

I find that the wick − which keeps one bulb wet − tends to rot − probably
due to being always wet and warm . And I have not found a source of supply
of replacements . Any ideas ?
I e-mailed the suppliers, but had no reply.
The wick is a sleeve, about the size of a thin pencil , probably only
cotton. An ordinary lamp wick from my ironmonger is not much use , being
flat, it only touches the bulb on one side, and that's not enough for it to
work properly. I have tried cutting pieces of handkerchief and tieing with
cotton, but its awfully fiddly.

Geoff

How about cotton shoe or boot laces.

Sylvain.

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From: John W Stanley
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] − Acronyms or abbreviations?
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:30

Oh! You may be right. I don't know where I learned the term acronym but have long thought it to be an abbreviation using the first letters of a series of words. 'Ref., for reference, or Phal. Paph.,or , Dend., I think of as abbreviations. I certainly wouldn't fight the corner but I'm too old to change long habits now!
Someone else'll rescue us!
Cheers
John

Paul Johnson wrote:

Hmm. I guess that I am not part of the "we all" there, John. I would consider the vast majority of your examples as abbreviations [less the periods], not acronyms. Curiously, acronym is not in my edition of the OED.

Paul

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From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] − Acronyms or abbreviations?
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:35

John, You are correct except for the term Abbreviation. The definition as I know it is, A word, formed by the Initial letters of a series of words. Phals and Paphs ect, are an abbreviation of 1 word. Regards,
Ronbow.

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From: John W Stanley
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] wet and dry thermometer ( Mason's hygrometer) − help wanted
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:55

Geoff,
I'm not sure if the important aspect of the wick is its capillary efficiency or the rate at which it dries (or tries to dry) out. I wonder if it would be worth experimenting with that nylon cord that has a braided outside enclosing longitudinal threads that take the tension. You could remove the latter and the braided bit would expand and shorten. Being nylon, even the digestive capacities of fungi might be challenged (although they do OK in my heating oil tank!!!) Another possibility might be a piece of slit capillary matting if you can be so dextrous with a scalpel !

It occurs to me that the nylon might need a wetting agent initially.

Cheers
John

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] wet and dry thermometer ( Mason's hygrometer) − help wanted
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 06:35

Thank you for those suggestions ; I think I was looking at the thing too
narrowly. I'll widen my ideas.

Geoff.

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From: John W Stanley
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] wet and dry thermometer ( Mason's hygrometer) − help wanted
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:30

Geoff,
Since typing the email yesterday I have been rummaging around and I think I have something suitable (or at least, worth a try).
If you let me have your snailmail address I'll pop a piece in the post.
Cheers
John

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From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Shows and photos
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:15

Our local show was very poorly attended on Saturday − football? heat? who knows. Disappointing though as the displays were of a really good standard. My Den thyrsiflorum didn't make it to the day − looked perfect until Friday night when a few flowers were going and by Saturday morning one whole spike was over. A fantastic plant though if only for a week or so.

Anyway today I have had a day of tiding up − cutting off old spikes and a bit of repotting. Here's a few photos I took too.

I am pleased with the Lycaste deppei. Until recently my only one. It flowers every year, though this year is the best with 7 flowers on the last bulb. The D anosmum smells wonderful − crushed cherries I think. D amethystoglossum is a bit of a bonus in that it had 6 spikes in March/April and has produced this latecomer. I am also pleasantly suprised by the Epicat. In the past few years they have done a lot of late bud aborting so that only 1 or 2 flowers survived on the spike . However not so this year and I have a couple of beauties out right now.

Andy

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From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Putting plants outside
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:20

As the days heat up I'd be interested to know what plants members put outside. In sun or shade and what do you do to protect them from pests and so on?

In my own orchid house the cattleyas are loving it but I have a few cooler growing types − some coelogynes, the odd cym and a masdevalia which are currently on the floor and I am wondering if they might like a trip outside.

Andy

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Neem oil ?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:50

Does anyone know of anyone selling natural Neem Oil ? I remember when it
was discussed some years ago , it was agreed (?) that there are two versions
about , one is an extract or somehow or other refined and treated and much
less potent . When I say ‘natural’ I am referring to the more potent
version.

It‹s the scale insects which concern me , I am dealing with them by wiping
them off , and the eggs, etc when seen , with alcohol ( isopropyl mixed with
water) and I have also sprayed several times with Provado , which seems to
be the only systemic available to hobbyists , and also used a smoke based on
the same chemical as in Provado ( one of the Bayer things ). But I still
find them , every time I water.

I have even, in desperation, gone back to a couple of the old Victorian
books ( Williams, and Veitch) (thanks John) but what Williams suggests is a
mixture of water, nicotine,and turpentine ‘rubbed over all parts of the
plant’ , and the only nicotine I have found has been in a commercial growers
catalogue at UKP82 for a 2Kg tub , and I have to buy 4 in a pack . I suppose I
could buy twenty woodbines or whatever and stir them in a mix , but somehow
I lack confidence in this idea.

Geoffrey Hands

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From: John W Stanley
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: Neem oil ?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:40

Geoff,
A possible tubular woven material that might be OK for a wick is in the post. Thanks to a pair of CAT-trainers!

As for 20 Woodbines, get someone to take a photo of the assistant's face when you ask for them!

We have a bottle of Neem Oil, bought about 2 years ago at some Orchid Show, I don't recall being over impressed (although the cost was impressive). One of our contributors, Paul Johnson, is an insect man (he once put me right about how mealies get about!) and if i recall correctly, gave the impression that other oils, but mineral oils are as effective. Maybe he'll 'hear' you cry for advice. (We just keep our finger nails long enough).
Cheers
John

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From: Mark Macklam
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: Putting plants outside
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:55

Hello,

I have only one plant type which I put outdoors, Cymbidiums. I have
the plants on plastic holders with raised edges. Three years and I
have not had any pest problems at all. Location: dappled light.

Mark

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

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From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] wet and dry thermometer ( Mason's hygrometer) − help wanted
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:20

I bought a Wet & Dry bulb hygrometer and could buy spare wicks. I no longer
use it but have a few spare wicks going for free ,if I can find them.

Peter Fowler, Alton, U.K.

Birthplace of William Curtis.

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From: Ron Newstead
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: Putting plants outside
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:35

In Portugal, I used to keep my cymbidiums outside all the year round and
they flowered.

I only brought 2 over with me and I have them outside now.

Ron

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From: James H
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: Putting plants outside
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:35

i put all my plants outside as soon as the weather is warm enough because it
means i can turn off the metal halide and save a few $$, i also get alot
better growth in the couple months of sun.
i keep most under an apple tree or in hanging baskets in the tree, others
that like brighter light like the catts and dend. go out on my walkway and
get sun all day long. i find i have to water every day or twice a day on
hot days but it also means that i get lots of ferts into them in a couple
months,
under lights i only water 2 times a week and in winter im lucky to water 1 a
week.
James

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From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: Neem oil ?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:55

Geoff, Neem Oill is obtainable from M.A.M Horticulture 16, Old Glebe, Tadmartin,Banbury, Oxon. OX15 5TH. Tel 01295 780824. Email. LaeliaM@aol.com
Ronbow.

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From: Silvio a Beccara
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Putting plants outside
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:15

Hi,

what about Phals? Is it risky to put them outside, particularly bellina kind
hybrids?

Thanks

Silvio

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: Shows and photos
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:30

I had thought earlier thought of attending myself , since Warminster is in
theory anyway , only an hour away , it must be the Wilts Soc Show you were
talking of ? It is some years since I last went to a Wilts. Show , in my
Cotswold days we used to exhibit as a Society . But I was working in my
greenhouse and garden on Saturday , and only thought about it too late.

The colour of your epicat is unusual , although screen colours are not
reliable unless we both have calibrated monitors , and your camera is set to
an ICC profile etc., which is asking a lot , this is not a photographic
society ! ( (I have just added a second monitor screen for photo purposes -
a 20 inch one which swivels between portrait and landscape format, but not
yet hung the Spyder to do a calibration).

Interesting , what you say about D.amethystoglossa. I have one which I
bought at Dijon , which makes it February or was it March, last year ? It
was in flower, and has flowered twice since , but nary a sign of a new
growth. Are you growing it in hydroculture ?

Geoff.

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From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Pointy headed advisors
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:35

Hi Jim,
Trouble with many (but certainly not all) academics ('Pointy headed PhD-s') is that they may acquire lots of useful knowledge 'from the literature' without necessarily gaining any practical experience. (Unfortunately, a few also seem to have a low opinion of those who actually get their hands dirty with the essential practical stuff.) The posession of an academic degree simply indicates a preparedness and commitment to apply one's self to formal study and enough intelligence to succeed at it. It doesn't confer superiority over those without degrees, either from choice or lack of opportunity and who may well have very superior experience and be just as, or more knowledgeable in their field.

I'll bet your Pointy headed advisors don't have degrees in Cattleya culture even if they are genius botanists! Maybe, when they know of your success, they'll ask for your opinion! The dubious disadvantage you have is that of not being able to display your status with a few letters! 50,000 orchids in Costa Rica eh? We're overcrowded with 400 in a 16X9 greenhouse in (Costa) Crewe, UK!!
John

JIM MATEOSKY wrote:

Hi all,

I am not a pointy headed PHD just a grower, I have talked to many lab coated weanies that have told me where I live (in costa rica) I can not grow that there. I have 40,000 orchids of 50 species growing well...

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From: P G Hieke
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Ancistrochilus rothschildianus
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:40

I just want to show you some pictures of my recent show winner.
The plant was judged Show Champion, Best Afrcan Species, and
it was given an award for Best Culture.
Regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Ancistrochilus rothschildianus
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:10

You have been successful in turning me green, Peter. I have never seen this
plant in flower at all , and can't remember if I have even seen it available
for sale in UK − although it is a familiar name in the back of my mind, in
that list labelled "buy on sight".
Which of course makes it difficult to judge and say "wow − what a
whopper.... etc"
But , since you take the trouble to show it us ( apart from all the awards
etc ) , indicates what you think of it, and that will set a standard in my
mind in future.

Geoff.

P G Hieke wrote:

I just want to show you some pictures of my recent show winner.
The plant was judged Show Champion, Best Afrcan Species, and
it was given an award for Best Culture.
Regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

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From: James H
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Putting plants outside
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:55

i put my phals out as well but make sure they are in a shady spot that only
gets at most 1 hr of full sun then slowly move them to brighter places by
the end of summer they are in full sun for about 4-5 hours and shade the
rest of the day.
my biggest concern is that the kids that live nextdoor will kill them by
hitting them with a frisbe or a baseball. :)

On 6/13/06, Silvio a Beccara wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> what about Phals? Is it risky to put them outside, particularly bellina
> kind
> hybrids?

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From: Paul Johnson
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Neem oil ?
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:55

Hello John, Geoff, et al.,
Neem oil is not quite snake oil like Superthrive, but sometimes it
gets marketed in a similar manner. Neem oil can be found in a
number of formulations with or without azadiractin [also spelled
azadirachtin]. Refined forms of the oil, an extract of the neem
tree, have various impurities removed, including azadiractin. In
this form neem oil is not functionally different from other
horticulturally safe light oils, i.e., it will kill insects by
suffocation if applied appropriately. Forms of the oil that are at
various grades of purification will have various concentrations of
azadiractin and other compounds found in the original extract.
Azadiractin, a triterpenoid, itself is used as a growth regulator
pesticide on various insects.

In the U.S. most commonly sold brands of "horticultural oil" are
actually a mineral oil. This works well. I have had various people
recommend, and I believe some of the organic gardening manuals
recommend, various vegetable oils such as corn oil, canola oil, etc.,
for pest control on house plants an in veggie gardens. One orchid
grower in Puerto Rico once insisted upon using only the best extra-
virgin olive oil for his prized plants!

All the oils work the same way: dilute in water with a surfactant
[many people will use a mild liquid dish soap, though a commercial
spreader usually used with oily pesticides will work better], and
spray. The critical aspects involve getting a good coating of oil
over the pests, thus the proportions of oil, water, and detergent
just right for the particular oil. Though the oil coating will
suffocate the insect, or mite, there is probably a bit of dessication
from the surfactant, too. Too much surfactant will thin the oil too
much, while too little or the wrong match to the oil of choice will
not provide proper spreading of the oil. Also, the plants need to be
thoroughly coated, so sometimes dipping may be a better option than
spraying. And, like pesticides, there should be at least three
applications 10-14 days apart to catch hatchlings.

As to the Provado, I am not sure why there might be problems with its
use. The active ingredient is imadicloprid, which is normally very
effective against mealybugs and scale insects. Other than double-
checking the rate or thoroughness of application, or the quality of
water used [some pesticides do lose potency with hardwater], I am a
bit baffled. One thing to remember is that scales will remain on the
plants after death, so in many cases rubbing or brushing their
carcasses off the plants may be necessary.

Now, as to the finger nails. . . I do rather miss the old chalkboards
in my lecture rooms. . . :) :)

cheers,

paul

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From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Shows and photos
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:10

Hi Geoff

On looking again at the Epicat photo it's probably a bit more purple/less
pink than my screen shows, thought that might not be what's on yours. I do
fiddle a bit with the colour depending how much time I have but I am not
particularly knowledgeable about it.

As for the Den amethystoglossum, mine is also a recent purchase − Sept last
year. So although it is in hydroculture and currently looks good, it is a
bit early to say how it is going to do. I bought it from Water Orchids the
Taiwanese people at the RHS show so it had to get over the shock of the
rapid climate change too. Either it had a young cane developing or did so
subsequently and I notice this morning a couple of swellings around the base
that look like new canes and some good new roots also. I note the
literature says the flowers are fragrant and long lasting. Mine don't seem
to have any smell and although they are not short lived they wouldn't
automatically be on my list of long-lived orchid flowers. I do love it
though.

Andy

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From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Ancistrochilus rothschildianus
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:25

Hi Peter

A well deserved award. Looks really super with such a lot of flowers. I
bought a little one last year − just 5 of those funny little bulbs- and it
had a few flowers on a couple of spikes. It has taken a long time to come
out of winter dormancy − I did wonder for a while if it was still alive but
it now has five new growths. Your pictures have given me renewed
enthusiasm. Do you have any tips about culture?

Andy

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From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Putting plants outside
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:30

Thanks Ron and James for your comments. Where are you James? The $$ signs suggest USA and I was wondering what climate type.

Ron, do you have your Cyms in sun or shade?

I'd still like some info on what Coelogynes people put outside − or does no-one do that? Mind you given that yesterday was swelteringly hot and today it's freezing cold it feels like we may have had the summer

Andy

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From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Ancistrochilus rothschildianus
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:45

It's in the catalogue of
http://www.nardottoecapello.it/catalogo.asp?folder=5

That's where I got mine

Andy

"Geoffrey Hands" wrote:

> You have been successful in turning me green, Peter. I have never seen
> this plant in flower at all , and can't remember if I have even seen it
> available for sale in UK

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From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Neem oil − scale and squeaks
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:25

Hi Geoff and Paul,
I told you Geoff : He might not know his acronyms from his abbreviations but he's pretty useful with his oil can!
Paul, (Thanks for helping out with all that). A couple of related points;
Do you have any idea what the edges of the scale cone are sealed to the leaf surface with? Is it simply close contact, wax, a proteinous 'glue' or what? Do the eggs or larvae beneath the scale respire by courtesy of gas exchange through stomata or does gas exchange take place at the edges of the scale? To be effective your oil must penetrate to the larvae/eggs or seal the edge of the scale . . ?
Oh! No no squeaky chalk board ? You're not telling us your students doze off to the felt pen? (maybe there's a market for a new ring-tone somewhere there!)
John

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From: Ron Newstead
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Putting plants outside
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:40

Interesting, James, but where are you?

And what ever is a fert?

Ron

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From: Ron Newstead
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Ancistrochilus rothschildianus
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:40

It's nice to know that the Rothschilds did some beautiful things with their
money apart from wine!
Congratulations!

Ron

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From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Neem oil ?
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:10

Some 3 years ago I had a Mealy Bug infestation on my orchids and I had a hell of a job trying to obtain Mineral oil, the medication stuff, and in effect could not get it any where in the UK. It had gone out of use for medical purpose. My retired chemist friend had not dispensed it for 30 years or so he said. I even got my GP to write me a prescription and still could not get any. Sure as a light mineral oil, for industrial use it was obtainable from nett sources but only as bulk buy, 5000 litres or so, but over the counter, no way.I do believe I discussed the matter on List. However I did finally manage to obtain a bottle, brought from Europe for me.
Be that as it may I write to advise that for the purpose of seeing off Mealies neither were totally successful and one no better than the other and I finally got clear of them by spraying with Provado. I am sure you are right Paul, virtually any light oil suitably mixed with a spreader will do. Neem Oil is expensive.

A warning re Provado. If you don't buy it ready mixed be careful, infact be sure to get the dilution correct for other wise you will mark and even kill some sorts of plants.
Regards to all,
Ronbow.

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From: Ron Newstead
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Putting plants outside
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:55

Shade

Ron N

Andy Mckeown wrote:

Ron, do you have your Cyms in sun or shade?

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