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From: Paul Johnson
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Something different
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:35
Dennis,
Interesting picture of your Coelogyne "naja." However, with
respects, I have my doubts as to the veracity of the identification
that you were given. I pulled your image into Photoshop and adjusted
the color until the leaves were green, to study it a bit. First off,
your plant and the picture of C. naja by Dudley Clayton in his book
on the genus are not even close, nor does it match either the flower
or plant description that he provides. Secondly, it appears to me,
based on both Clayton's book and my own Coelogyne collection, that
most likely you have either C. xyrekes or C. speciosa incarnata.
Sorry, but I would need a more detailed image of the flower to
confirm or a close examination [regrettably, I find it difficult to
cross the pond anytime within the next few weeks! :)] You might
want to contact Clayton, or Malcolm Perry in Bristol, for their
opinions on your plant.
cheers,
Paul
Paul Johnson
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From: Dr Chong-Yee Khoo
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Den Golden Aya
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:55
I find that many Dendrobiums will form keikis when their root systems are sub-optimal; you may want to have a look at the roots to see what their condition is. Repotting may improve the situation, but do this in spring.
The other thing you have to remember is that, at least with Dendrobium kingianum, the tendency to keiki can depend on the genetic background. I have a number of kingianums some of which will flower even with continued watering, and others which will keiki at the drop of a hat.
Meanwhile, enjoy the fact that you have plants for free!
Chong-Yee
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From: dennis READ
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Something different
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:20
This is confusing as I bought it from Malcolm Perry so I'm sending a copy of this to him. Regards
Paul Johnson wrote:
Dennis,
Interesting picture of your Coelogyne "naja." However, with respects, I have my doubts as to the veracity of the identification that you were given...
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From: "Schoonjans, Peter-Dieter \(IT\)"
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Peter's Paph.
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:15
Hello Roger,
I think I made a mistake: the one on the photograph was 17 pounds (25
euros). It was the Paph rothshildianum x parishii which was about 12
pounds (20 euros). The nursery does seem to be reasonably priced. I'll
visit it again the end of the month when I go back to visit my parents
in Belgium.
The photograph was quickly taken in my kitchen, when it was dark
outside. I have once tried to take a photograph with a black
background, but the flash made it gray. When I find the time, I'll
experiment a bit with different types of cloth, or is there something
one can buy in a camerashop? Early next year I hope to put some
photographs online.
Peter.
________________________________
Roger Grier wrote
Hi Peter,
For 'About twelve pound' as you say, I think you had a bargain. Is it a
multi flowering Paph, meaning, does it have any further buds on it?
It is a very good photograph, depth of field is good and it is very
sharp, but what about the shadow!!!!!
Have you tried a black background? One that I use is a black cloth on a
piece of plywood or something similar.
Kind regards, Rocky.
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From: Anthony Page
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: What i'T'?
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:30
I have obviously missed something − can someone tell this simpleton why everyone is typing capital Ts in their e-mails???
Anthony Page
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From: P G Hieke
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Den Golden Aya
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:55
It had at least 2 months of very cool nights and kept relatively dry.
This is definitely not enough to get a Dendrobium to flower.
The attached picture of Den. primulinum shows how it may look after
5 months of dryness, full sun and low temperatures.
People always worry that the plant will die if it is kept very dry. It takes
a very long time for a plant to dry-out when water is withheld, esp. in
winter with low temperatures. The trick is to watch the plant very
closely and give a little moisture if it looks too much shriveled.
Many years of practise also helps.
Kind regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand
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From: suzanne sadler
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: dendrobium dalvay x compactum
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:25
Dear all,
I have the opportunity to buy a dendrobium dalvay x compactum but i cannot find any reference to it on the internet. Does anyone know what its like or have a picture. Is it worth adding to my collection? its a very healthy plant.
Merry Christmas
Suzy
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From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What i'T'?
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:20
You and me both. I cannot see any cap Ts. Am I missing out on something? Ronbow.
Anthony Page wrote:
I have obviously missed something − can someone tell this simpleton why everyone is typing capital Ts in their e-mails???
Anthony Page
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Peter's Paph.
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:10
The trick for black backgrounds looking black, no grey , is to make sure
that the exposure reading is taken off the flowers/leaves etc, and not off
the black. With some cameras you can press the shutter button half way down
to take the reading , whilst aiming the sensor ( usually indicated by a
square frame in the middle of the viewfinder image ) at a suitable leaf etc,
then, whilst continuing to hold the button half way down, re-frame the pic,
and then press the button all the way down.
Alternatively , you have to experiment with manual settings instead of auto
- but at least the LCD pic will show you when you have got it right.
Digital pics are best shot looking a bit dark − under-exposed, rather than
over-exposed − then you can pull them back in simple imaging software, to
get exactly hat you want. If you go the other way , and over-expose − too
light − there is nothing you can do without increasing contrast and ending
up with soot and whitewash.
Hope this helps.
Geoff.
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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What i'T'?
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:45
In article ,
Ron Bower wrote:
> You and me both. I cannot see any cap Ts. Am I missing out on something?
> Ronbow.
>> Anthony Page wrote:
>>
>> I have obviously missed something − can someone tell this simpleton
>> why everyone is typing capital Ts in their e-mails???
>> Anthony Page
Don't know − all seems normal here. Maybe check your settings?
--
Tricia
No one ever says "It's only a game," when their team is winning.
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From: dennis READ
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Coelogyne naja
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:50
Just to confirm that the picture posted was Coel. naja. It has been confirmed by Malcolm Perry and Dudley Clayton. The relevant correspondence has been sent direct to Paul.
For those of you that do not know Malcolm he takes great pride in getting orchid species names correct. If in any doubt he flowers them before selling. Regards
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From: dennis READ
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Dendrobium kingianum
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:05
This quarters issue of Orchid Digest has an interesring article on D. kingianum. The author lives in Boston, USA, and his kingianums are outside in full sun from April to November. His young plants and seedlings are kept in 50% shade. They can withstand temperatures down to 35F or 1C
From april to November the plants should not dry out and be fed regularly.
In November they are taken into a cool house,46F, 5C and all water witheld until buds show then they are sprayed. when the flower stalk is formed watering and feeding is started again.
This is taken from a champion growers article in the current Orchid Digest and is what I'll do next year. Regards
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From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: T
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:35
I didn't see any capital T's that shouldn't be there. Jean
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From: Silvio a Beccara
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] What i'T'?
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:10
Can't see any T's either.
Silvio
> I have obviously missed something − can someone tell this simpleton why
> everyone is typing capital Ts in their e-mails??? Anthony Page
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From: Anthony Page
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: T
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:15
Am I going mad? You say you are not getting these 'T's in your e-mails? According to my computer this is what is received to-day fromGeoffrey Hands :
Digital pics are best shot looking a bit dark T under-exposed, rather than
over-exposed T then you can pull them back in simple imaging software, to
get exactly hat you want. If you go the other way , and over-expose T too
light T there is nothing you can do without increasing contrast and ending
up with soot and whitewash.
Am I the only person to receive this ?
Anthony Page
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From: dennis READ
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Pumice
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:40
Does anyone know of a UK supplier of 1/4in. grade pumice stones. Perlite is a reconstituted form of pumice and is not what I want as my Lycastes growing in moss and pumice are growing better than those in moss and perlite.
Regards
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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: T
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:40
In article ,
Anthony Page wrote:
> Am I going mad? You say you are not getting these 'T's in your e-mails?
> According to my computer this is what is received to-day fromGeoffrey
> Hands : Digital pics are best shot looking a bit dark T under-exposed,
> rather than over-exposed T then you can pull them back in simple imaging
> software, to get exactly hat you want. If you go the other way , and
> over-expose T too light T there is nothing you can do without increasing
> contrast and ending up with soot and whitewash.
> Am I the only person to receive this ?
> Anthony Page
In the interest of solving this puzzle I quote the same piece of text below
as it displays here, with no Ts. for comparison − please let me know if any
stray Ts are added by the time it reaches you:
Digital pics are best shot looking a bit dark − under-exposed, rather than
over-exposed − then you can pull them back in simple imaging software, to
get exactly hat you want. If you go the other way , and over-expose − too
light − there is nothing you can do without increasing contrast and ending
up with soot and whitewash.
Regards,
--
Tricia
Change is inevitable....except from vending machines.
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From: Silvio a Beccara
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: T
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:05
I think I have spotted it: it's the dash, when it doesn't connect two words.
Every dash in the text shown by Tricia is replaced by a "T" in the text shown
by Anthony. Now which is the cause, has to be sought in Anthony's mailer, I
reckon.
Cheers
Silvio
ANTHONY:
>Digital pics are best shot looking a bit dark T under-exposed,
> rather than over-exposed T then you can pull them back in simple imaging
> software, to get exactly hat you want. If you go the other way , and
> over-expose T too light T there is nothing you can do without increasing
> contrast and ending up with soot and whitewash.
TRICIA (and all the rest of us)
> Digital pics are best shot looking a bit dark − under-exposed, rather than
> over-exposed − then you can pull them back in simple imaging software, to
> get exactly hat you want. If you go the other way , and over-expose − too
> light − there is nothing you can do without increasing contrast and ending
> up with soot and whitewash.
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From: Sharon Williams
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Den Golden Aya
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:55
;
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reply-type=original
Hi again Geoff: Thank you so much for your answer. I have never grown nobile
dens before, so when someone suggested that the Den Golden Aya was a
Yamamoto hybrid, I just took their word for it. On Yamamoto's website, all
you can see of the plants are the flowers, and not having seen a Yamamoto
before did not realize the canes looked different. I did know that it was
D.aphrodite x D.capillipes, but I couldn't find out any cultural info on Den
capillipes, but the info I found on D aphrodite says it needs a very dry
cool winter rest until the buds appear and then water and fertilize heavily.
As my plant started getting its cool nights in August, I thought it might
just be early, so began to water it when I saw what I thought were buds. I
am learning though! I have moved it into the coolest, brightest place I have
and will keep it dry until it blooms. I was confused when you mentioned that
you kept some of your nobile types in s/h with water in the reservoirs over
their rest periods. Did I just hear that wrong??
I am finding it very difficult to find specific cultural info on many
of the Den species. I realize that advice is general, but your knowledge
base far supersedes mine and even general advice is most welcome. I have
heard so often to take into consideration the natural conditions of a
species, and yet others say that it doesn't apply to orchids in cultivation.
Then when you have a cross between two species, it is even more difficult. I
didn't realize that nobile was a species, I thought it was a 'type' of
dendrobium. So much to learn!! And I truly appreciate all advice you give.
I have attached a photo of the Den Golden Aya now.
Thanks and Merry Christmas to all!
Sharon in Calgary
"Geoffrey Hands" wrote:
> The flaw in all this argument Sharon is that Golden Aya is not a typical
> Yamamoto hybrid. It may have been bred by that gentleman, but it is not
> what we mean when we say "Yamamoto" − you only have to look at the canes
> to see that they are a different shape.
>
> In fact Golden Aya is D.aphrodite x D.capillipes − a primary hybrid with
> no D.nobile in it.
>
> The "true" Yamamoto hybrids are (say) 50% nobile , and hence the
> conditions which suit nobile are dominant in their requirements.
>
> I have found Golden Aya a difficult plant to succeed with, but don't have
> it in my collection at present.
>
> But please remember when I give you advice − and I guess that will be
> true for all of us who try to help , we can only generalise, based on out
> own experience, in our conditions. The art of growing orchids is finding
> out what works for you with your plants and in your conditions , and
> however much advice you get , its not quite that easy. If it was, some of
> us perverse types would be doing something else perhaps !.
>
> Just keep taking the medicine...
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From: Jean-Claude George
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Coelogyne naja
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:00
Hi from France,
my name is Elisabeth, I joined the list quite recently, and I am particularly fond of Coelogyne species. I also possess this beautiful Coelogyne, but I bought it last year from a belgian producer, with the label C.speciosa x C. affine ! He told me it was the result of a cross he made himself between C.speciosa and a plant named "C.affine", but the name does not exist, and he has only 1 plant "affine". I tried to identity the parent, with the help of books by Clayton or by Wood, and in the same section Moniliformes it seems to me to be closer to C.monilirachis than to C.naja.
I join a close-up of my plant for information, and I am willing to any further discussion.
Elisabeth
My website (in great need of an update !)
http://orchidorama.free.fr/index%20photos.htm
dennis READ wrote:
Just to confirm that the picture posted was Coel. naja. It has been confirmed by Malcolm Perry and Dudley Clayton. The relevant correspondence has been sent direct to Paul.
For those of you that do not know Malcolm he takes great pride in getting orchid species names correct. If in any doubt he flowers them before selling. Regards
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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Dendrobiums.
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:55
Mornin' to you all,
The recent information that we have all received from various members to do with the culture of various types of Dendrobiums is so very helpful, especially the 'Aussie' types.
And then the current discussion about Coelogynes, with the 'emergence' of a new member Elisabeth, from France.
It all goes to show how valuable are Club is..........long may it continue to help us all.
Regards, Rocky.
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Den Golden Aya
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:40
Have you actually see this plant in flower Sharon ? It does not look
anything like the Golden Ayas I have seen and grown . It looks like a
typical yamamoto dendrobium to me !.
The absolute best site I know for information which can be used in growing
any species is Jay Pfahls wonderful encyclopaedia − go to
http://www.orchidspecies.com/denaphrodite.htm
You will find that bothe species used in Golden Aya have distinct nodes -
the canes are swollen at each of them, and waisted next to the nodes. Your
plant does not have this feature.
The flowers of Golden Aya are also distinctive in that they are very nearly
taller than they are wide − whereas nobile flowers are very much wider than
tall − if you look at the pictures in the mentioned encyclopaedia you will
see that this comes from the yellow one of the two species − which is indeed
dominant in the cross.
Other answers ; I don't think that dryness is very significant , but I do
think that coolness is. So yes, I have grown ( almost exclusively nobile
type ) dendrobes standing in water all the winter , but kept cold, and yes I
did get the best flowering ever ( but the following year I went too far with
the cold part − they were subject to freezing − exit dendrobes....)
My rationale, is that the greenhouse is an alien environment. Nothing is
natural. Plants don't grow in pots in the jungle ; they are not planted in
Perlite , rockwool, or whatever ; everything is different. The question is ,
what will work − and the second question , is , and will it work for you ?
Geoff.
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Pumice
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:50
Chemico were selling what they claimed to be very large Perlite, under some
trade name , and it was actually ( I think) pumice stone chips − up to say 1
cm long. I bought some 5 or 6 years ago when I was experimenting with
hydroculture media.
By the way, Perlite is actually manufactured from an alumino-silica gravel ,
which is flashed in a furnace ( fed in to fall through a curtain of high
temperature gas) at about 2200-2400 deg. C − depending on the number of
water molecules locked into the al-si molecule. The water effectively
flashes into extremely high temperature steam which blows the granules up
like balloons, and creates the honeycomb structure. I am aware of at least
three different ore sources used, but none of them is ,so far as I know , a
pumice.
Geoff.
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From: dennis READ
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Coelogyne naja
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:10
It is a long story but my plant started off as C. speciosa X affine but was recognised as an unusual plant. It was then identified as C. naja. Regards
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] T
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:20
Everything stops for Tea you know Anthony ( joke)
Geoff.
Anthony Page wrote:
Am I going mad? You say you are not getting these 'T's in your e-mails?
According to my computer this is what is received to-day fromGeoffrey Hands
:
Digital pics are best shot looking a bit dark T under-exposed, rather than
over-exposed T then you can pull them back in simple imaging software, to
get exactly hat you want. If you go the other way , and over-expose T too
light T there is nothing you can do without increasing contrast and ending
up with soot and whitewash.
Am I the only person to receive this ?
Anthony Page
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From: dennis READ
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Coelogyne naja
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:15
What a marvellous site for orchid pictures. Are they all yours or do you take photos at shows.? This definitely goes into my favourites. Regards
Jean-Claude George wrote:
Hi from France,
my name is Elisabeth, I joined the list quite recently, and I am particularly fond of Coelogyne species. I also possess this beautiful Coelogyne, but I bought it last year from a belgian producer, with the label C.speciosa x C. affine ! He told me it was the result of a cross he made himself between C.speciosa and a plant named "C.affine", but the name does not exist, and he has only 1 plant "affine". I tried to identity the parent, with the help of books by Clayton or by Wood, and in the same section Moniliformes it seems to me to be closer to C.monilirachis than to C.naja.
I join a close-up of my plant for information, and I am willing to any further discussion.
Elisabeth
My website (in great need of an update !)
http://orchidorama.free.fr/index%20photos.htm
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From: Jean-Claude George
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Coelogyne naja
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:05
Thanks for the comment on your Coelogyne and the compliment on my site, all the plants in the pages flowered in our greenhouses, but I must admit that some of them are no longer alive ...we have been growing orchids for more than 20 years now and grow about 800 species, with a preference for Coelogyne, Paphiopedilum, Phalaenopsis and Schomburgkia.
I should update with new plants in a few weeks when I have more time.
Elisabeth
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From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Pumice-Perlite and Palmolive
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:30
Just to add a note to Geoff's technical info on Perlite (nottalotta people know that Geoff!) ; natural pumice has its origins in a very similar way following violent high temperature cataclysmic gas volcanism. It is of a frothy silicate glass made up mainly of components that would crystallize into SiO2 (quartz) and KAlSi3O8 and NaAlSi3O8 (potassium and sodium feldspars) if crystals had had the time to form.
There should, therefore, be very little difference in the relevant chemistries of the natural pumice and Perlite. The biggest difference could be in the physical sizes of the pores in the silica-glass froth. However, in pumice, there is a 'closed cell' structure in which the pores are isolated from each other by their glass 'bubble' walls. This is why pumice can float for a long time since it can't become waterlogged. Obviously, broken pieces have partial 'bubbles' on their outsides but these usually don't connect to adjacent ones.I don't know much about Perlite but since it also floats I presume it, too, has a closed cell structure and so the pore size shouldn't matter too much. Pumice may be quite variable in its composition (beyond my simple 'formula' above) but the kind normally available commercially is grey-white and from silica-rich volcanic sources and would probably release little in the way of ionic 'impurities/nutrients.
Next time you are in the bath, take a hand lens and examine the old piece of pumice that lingers behind the taps; much more interesting than trying to turn off a tap with the foot. Have a happy bath for Christmas everyone! After all, Christmas comes but once a year . . . . .!
John
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From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: T
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:35
I have the perfect solution for the elimination of the visible upper-case Ts in your text Anthony.
Simply go to 'Format', 'font' and then -change the colour to white.
The silly season is upon us
John-
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From: John Stanley
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Rocky's recommended labels
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:50
.Rocky (and anyone else caught up in the label problem)
Rocky,
Thanks for putting me on to the black labels dealer (see the part original message, below).
I bought and have played about with some of these labels and, althpough the scriber works OK, it could do with being a bit fatter and more easily controllable.
However, (and this is where I came in!) I discover that an ordinary graphite pencil can be used on them to excellent effect and much like I remember with matt metal. The grey pencil on a black background is photographically more discrete and can be angled in the light to be readable or non-intrusive as necessary. The matt surface seems to retain the pencil marking even when vigorous rubbing is applied so they look as if they may last well. Stay around and I'll let you know how they weather in another decade or so . . . . .
Thanks for the info
John
Roger Grier
I get them from a Garden Nursery in the heart of the New Forest.
They have a website. www.macpennys.co.uk
And an E-mail address office@macpennys.co.uk
Phone: 01425-672348
Kind regards, Rocky.
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From: Sharon Williams
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Den Golden Aya
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 05:15
Hi again Geoff: I have seen photos of Den Golden Aya but I haven't seen this
plant in flower. That was how it was labelled when I bought it at our orchid
society table. May I ask what the visual difference in the canes is between
a typical yamamoto den and a nobile den? Jay Pfahls site is where I did find
the info I had on the parents. If you think it is a yamamoto hybrid, then I
am curious about why it is producing keikies when I followed the explicit
advice on flowering from their website? So do I put it back into cool
location or into the 18C min as recommended on their site?
I am so sorry if this is frustrating you as well. I can just let it drop if
you wish and just wait and see what happens. I think that perhaps the reason
that the canes are not swollen is that the humidity has not been sufficient.
I chose cold over humid as I couldn't do both and it appears that wasn't the
correct choice, as the canes are shrivelling on both the kingianum and the
nobile. I thought I would be able to grow these as our winters are cold, but
it is too cold to be outside and too warm inside as I can only get minimum
temps to 14C in my grow room where the humidity is between 45 and 65%
(Calgary is notoriously dry!). That is too warm to get flowering on these is
it not? I don't mind the challenge and am willing to lose these if I can't
get the conditions right. I believe in trying everything because otherwise
you never know what you can and cannot grow. I have mostly intermediate
conditions yet I am trying to push those limits, as I have heard done by
others by where one places plants in the growing area.
Once again I thank you for your patience. I hope I haven't tried it too
much!
Best wishes
Sharon
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Den Golden Aya
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 10:55
Lets see if I can answer your questions...
. May I ask what the visual difference in the canes is between
a typical yamamoto den and a nobile den? None − Yamamoto dends are complex
hybrids with lots of nobile in them − so they look like nobile. So does your
plant. It don't look like Golden Aya.
I am curious about why it is producing keikies when I followed the explicit
advice on flowering from their website?
The short answer is that growing these plants is not an exact science − you
can't 100% guarantee that this will happen if you do that. only that it is
likely !
But the even shorter answer if you have been giving them a cool rest at 14
deg. Is that it is simply not cool enough . you want single figures of
degrees centrigade.
It is frustrating .
An idea for you − it used to be said that the growers of Southern California
flowered their cymbidiums − which need cool nights ( and they don't get
them) by watering with iced water . I have already said that I think the
cold is more important than the dry. Try a very free-draining compost (
Perlite ? ) and keep watering through the autumn ( fall to you, I think ),
but with a mixture of ice cubes and water − no feed . If you want to persist
!.
Geoff
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: for Sharon
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 11:00
p.s. I should appreciate the URL of Yamamoto − can't seem to find it on
Google !
Geoffrey Hands
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From: pop3.ukonline.co.uk
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: test
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:45
I believe our cruise ship has a hot-spot zone so that I can use my own lap-top , so I've just been adding addresses to Outlook Express on it . This is just a test.
Geoff
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From: Ronald Newstead
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Pumice
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:05
Pumice was being exported from the Azores, some year ago, for the
manufacture of insulating bricks for the inner layers of the walls of
buildings but I have not been able to find out anything from the Azores
website
Ron
Geoffrey Hands wrote:
Chemico were selling what they claimed to be very large Perlite, under some
trade name , and it was actually ( I think) pumice stone chips „ up to say 1
cm long. I bought some 5 or 6 years ago when I was experimenting with
hydroculture media.
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From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: hotspot
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:00
I've received your letter Geoff. That is one of my most important requirements when I go away from home either in U.K. or abroad − the first thing I search the list for is a hotspot so I can connect to the Internet on my laptop. They seem to work very well so good luck with it and have a wonderful holiday. Jean
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From: Sharon Williams
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] for Sharon
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:00
Hi Geoff: The website is http://www.yamamotodendrobiums.com
Question again in response to your answer: if my plant was indeed a Golden Aya, what would the canes look like compared to what I have? All this education is super and again I thank you.
What about putting the plants in the fridge at night? and is it only night temps that have to go to single digit C?
Have a great cruise Geoff. Where are you off to?
Merry Christmas
Sharon
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From: Anthony Page
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: "T"
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:50
Many thanks for spotting the problem − it just remains for me to resolve it
somehow!
Anthony Page
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From:
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: mail
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:10
I think it is great that so many pictures are being posted, but is the only way
to see them to receive the messages individually? I receive the Orchid-Talk
messages in the digest form for convenience and therefore get no pictures.
Attached pictures used to be archived on the Orchid-Talk website
http://www.orchid-talk.co.uk/archives/digs.html but virtually none have been
archived here in 2005. Are there any plans to again have the pictures availabe
to digest recepients? I REALLY miss them.
John from NY, USA
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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: mail − especially for John from NY and Richard Skellam from UK
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 16:50
It seemed a good idea at the time, but I was duplicating the pictures by
having the usual monthly collections as well as the digest collections, so
I decided to go back to uploading the pictures on a monthly basis (although
it has to be admitted I have only just caught up with them). You could say
the list and digest have been victims of their own success :-) However, I
hope I am now up to speed again. All the pictures up to the end of November
are now on the website http://www.orchid-talk.co.uk/archives/arcphots.html
where you can select the year and month to view.
If you wish to see a particular picture which has been mentioned but not
yet on the website let me know and I can forward it to you.
--
Tricia
Nothing in the known universe travels faster than a bad cheque.
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Pictures ...
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:55
As a matter of interest , hands up all those who have not got broadband ?
And is there still anyone out there running on 800 x600 ?
I am planning a new web-site ( Waitrose seem to have junked the old one,
which was way overdue for a rebuild anyway )and I thought I would make one
for todays machines and systems − i.e. using larger better definition
pictures needing broadband etc to be loaded quickly . Like 700px wide or
high or even 800. This means a screen set to say 1280 x 960 − which is my
normal setting on my pc , or at the very least 1024 x 768 which I sometimes
run at with my aged laptop . And I wondered if members of this group for
example would find that difficult ?
I shall also I think need to change ISP as my present one, after starting
off so well , is becoming a pain in the you know where − charging me for a
service which they don't provide at a rate 3 times what they offer to new
customers .. And hanging on the phone for hours listening to the entire
works of Bach three times waiting for the next customer services
representative does not improve my temper either.
I am wondering about Freeola − mainly because they offer unlimited web-space
( BT give a miserly 2Mb or is it 15 ? with 1Mb broadband ) and I reckon I'll
need at least 50 maybe more, to add in some of my other photo-galleries.
Anyone used them ?
Geoffrey Hands
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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Server.
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:40
Mornin' Geoff,
Probably the best Server is 'Virgin', give them a try.
I did, and I have nothing but praise for his set-up, his company, and for the fact that I always speak to a person who is 'English', or as I find, 'Welsh'. No disrespect to other nationalities, but it is the dialect and the speed with which they talk that upsets people.
Virgin does not require a twelve month contract, in fact they do not require a contract.
I was told how good 'Virgin' were, and I am glad I took the help.
Regards, Rocky.
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From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Broadband
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:15
Geoff I have Broadband with ntl and have done for a couple of years. My screen resolution is 1024 x 768 and I have a new Dell Inspiron PC with a 19" screen. Everything works really well and to my satisfaction. Ntl has twice increased our connection speed for free which can't be bad! My son lives in Staffordshire and has the same arrangement and both households have wireless connection so that other P.C.'s and laptops can be used at the same time. On our last visit to our son's house we had four computers all running at the same time and experienced no problems at all. Good luck with your new task. It's a mammoth one setting up a new site! I have recently done it with my poetry site and transferred most of my orchid site files to another webhost. It's worth it in the long run though and keeps us happy! Jean
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From: MARK GRIFFITHS
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Pictures ...
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:25
Hi, the BT one seems to be 15mb. I used to have mine on the original geocities and have now upgraded for a pay for service with huge capacity on Yahoo. I also invested in a web page editor because I was nervous about only using online page building tools.
btw, have you consered a blog? Much quicker to publish. I use the free blogger.com..you can see the results if you go to the "what's new" bit on my home page.
regards, Mark
www.inspiringplants.org
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Server.
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:30
Virgin give 10Mb free webspace − not enough for me Roger − my old site with
tiny pics used to run out of space quite frequently ( when the pics added up
to many hundred , as they did after months/years of adding everything in
flower − and that was 20Mb.
Geoff.
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From: jan
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Pictures ...
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:35
I've got broadband with Demon − or now they're called Thus or Thud or
something ;) − and I have no complaints. My screen is 1400x1050.
About your website, a small prayer: Please stick to pure standard HTML −
Microsoft Frontpage in particular will, if left to its own devices,
produce webpages that are almost useless on all other browsers than
Internet Explorer, which means that an increasing number of people in
the world will only be able see a poor representation of what you
intended. Oh, and no Flash, Java, Javascript etc etc − I was just about
to say 'no graphics' as well, but that could be an impediment to Orchid
photos, I suppose...
/jan
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From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Broadband
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:15
Yes Geoff ntl is cable − pity that you don't have the same choice but I'm sure the others mentioned will be good. Jean
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From:
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Orchid Review back issues
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 20:55
Hello all,
In order to complete my set of Orchid Review back issue I'm looking for the
following 2 issues:
Volume 112 (2004): issues 1, 2
If any of you have either issue duplicate then please let me know.
kind regards,
Kenneth Bruyninckx.
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From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Pictures ...
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:15
In article ,
jan wrote:
> I've got broadband with Demon − or now they're called Thus or Thud or
> something ;) − and I have no complaints. My screen is 1400x1050.
I find Demon's service excellent, especially for this list. A friend is
very pleased with www.easily.co.uk − he has their broadband, email and web
space. You make up a pick-and-mix package based on what you need − their
web space is generous to start with and you can add more if you need it.
> About your website, a small prayer: Please stick to pure standard HTML −
> Microsoft Frontpage in particular will, if left to its own devices,
> produce webpages that are almost useless on all other browsers than
> Internet Explorer, which means that an increasing number of people in
> the world will only be able see a poor representation of what you
> intended. Oh, and no Flash, Java, Javascript etc etc − I was just about
> to say 'no graphics' as well, but that could be an impediment to Orchid
> photos, I suppose...
Seconded, with great emphasis!
--
Tricia
You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a clipboard.
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