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From: G. D. Pike
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Geoffrey Hands' Book
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 01:05
I saw it in the bookshops when I was in Melbourne recently, but from the little I saw while browsing, it seemed to relate mainly to orchid growing in the Uk and similar temperate climates. The cultural advice would be of limited value in Darwin. Might wait for a while until global warming triggers a revised edition.
regards
Des Pike
Darwin NT. Australia
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Mike Bowden.
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:30
His orchid business was very much a hobby − not full time, and he was not
very much into computers at all , so I expect that he does not read his
e-mails very often.
If you actually get any plants from him I shall be very interested to hear
what he has on offer.
Geoff.
Roger Grier wrote:
Hi Geoff,
Sorry about the delay in answering, but other things cropped up.
Mike Bowden..........I did E-mail him, but all has gone very quiet.?????
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: bark
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:45
I think its up to about £20 per bag now, and the last time I had any sent -
when I lived in Gloucestershire, the carriage cost was half as much again...
Geoff.
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: a few pics in my greenhouse today, inc one to be named ?
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 14:10
The Vanda does not need any comment I think.
Paph Orchilla "February" is an amazing colour , like the better known cv
"Paeony" out of the same pod. Paeony was of course very highly awarded, and
used to breed red complex paphs − currently complex paphs are out of favour
of course, but when the pendulum swings back this will again be wanted .
This one was never put up for award ( so I am told by the breeder who sold
it to me ) and nowadays may be too small to be favoured − as long as what is
required for an award is a giant flower, as is true in some of the main
breeding groups, although actually I think I am over-simplifying − they are
just not very keen to give awards at all in the main breeding groups.
The Dendrobium is the true D.Ellen − I think the one I showed under this
name previously was actually D. Jesmond "Flare" or "Sparkler"
Then a Cattleya I bought un-named from the garden centre recently. Mostly
flowers in pairs, and seems quite freely branching . But the flowers are so
reminiscent of something − a species ? which I can't bring to mind. Any
suggestions ?
Finally , the Cattleya Chongkolnee is an interesting hybrid − bowringiana x
Chocolate Drop , which accounts for the texture and lustre of the flowers
I am now accumulating all these pictures for a new version of my web-site
which I plan to do in the New Year , with bigger pics, taking advantage of
broadband.
Geoff.
p.s I have not got to the bottom of my difficult pictures problem − but I
watched out when making these. I found that Photoshop for some odd reason
made two pictures into document files which it could not read , and the
others into normal image files. I have addressed questions to my more
knowledgable Photoshop friensds, and tried again until I got pictures which
I am sure you'll open OK.
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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Bark.
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 14:30
Hi Jean,
You want good bark, well, have you tried 'Ratcliffes'???
I am often over there and know for a fact that the bark that they sell is very good.
While we are on the subject of bark, I will tell you a story.
A local sawmills near me used to supply bark to our now retired friend Norman. The sawmills burnt down last year and they hope to be up and running by February 2006. Then they will be in a position to sell bark if required........but, there are plans for the sawmills to burn the bark and other waste material /furnace/water/steam/electricity national grid. This of course may catch on and then, where will people get bark?
Regards, Rocky.
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From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: bark
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 14:45
Wow! I knew I could rely on you all − thank you very much for all the
replies about bark. I think I'll try Ratcliff as I have phoned Peter White 3
times about delivery of some orchids I am keen to obtain − twice he rang me
back and promised them but almost 3 months later I still haven't had them. I
can't wait around for bark like this so it may be of better quality but I
need it now so am forced to look elsewhere. Thank you again for your help.
Jean
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Coelia bella also known as Botriochilus bellus − pic here... and divisions for sale
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 15:50
My plant , grown from 3 bulbs the size of maltesers some years ago , now
fills a 10 incgh pot with multiple leads and a lot of flower spikes. Its
time to split it up, keep say a 5 inch pot with a couple of leads , maybe
more, and get rid of the rest.
Good flowering size divisions available as soon as I do split it , probably
in about a month at say £5 plus the actual cost of postage and packing ,
which I'll work out when I can weigh the divisions.
If you want one, e-mail me ; I'll make a list in the order received , I'm
not sure hpow many will be available , probably 3 or maybe 4.
Geoffrey Hands
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: bark
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:35
For A3 read the sign Pounds sterling − in other words I think it costs about
twenty pounds per bag.
Geoff.
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From: dennis READ
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] a few pics in my greenhouse today, inc one to be named ?
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 19:35
Geoff, I did not receive the Vanda pic. but the unknown Catt. looks very similar to C. quadricolor. Regards
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Vanda pic
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 06:00
Thanks for the suggestion of Quadricolor − I'll pursue that. And herewith
the Vanda pic again.
Geoffrey Hands
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From: "Schoonjans, Peter-Dieter \(IT\)"
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Paph
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:05
A few months ago, I bought a Paph rothshildianum x parishii ( x
hynaldianum). What are the conditions this should be kept in to make
it flower? It wasn't flowering when I bought it. The plant is fairly
big with quite hard leaves between 50 to 60cm long.
Last month recently bought another Paph, this time in flower (see
attachment), for about 12 pounds. It has 3 flowers on a single the
stem. I don't however have a name for it. Any ideas?
Many thanks,
Peter.
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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Peter's Paph.
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 16:35
Hi Peter,
For 'About twelve pound' as you say, I think you had a bargain. Is it a multi flowering Paph, meaning, does it have any further buds on it?
It is a very good photograph, depth of field is good and it is very sharp, but what about the shadow!!!!!
Have you tried a black background? One that I use is a black cloth on a piece of plywood or something similar.
Kind regards, Rocky.
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From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: yes please
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 17:50
If I'm not too late Geoff I would love one of the Coelia bella − Jean
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Paph
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:00
Roth hubrids often need to be multi-growthed to flower − I often find that
when the original growth starts producing new ones, it will flower next time
around − and for a Roth hybrid that means summer − more or less. So just
keep it growing , and it will get there eventually.
Your flowering hybrid is a difficult one. The flowers look to be Maudiae
type ( lawrencianum for example) but they are single flowered. Somehow this
has been crossed onto a multi-flora, and nothing of the multi-flora is
coming out, except perhaps petal habit and number of flowers. The other
parent may be glaucophyllum − that seems to do this kind of thing.
The Dutch breeders are certainly producing some interesting Paph hybrids,
such a pity they think it unnecessary ( or undesirable ? )to put names on.
Geoff.
Schoonjans, Peter-Dieter wrote:
A few months ago, I bought a Paph rothshildianum x parishii ( x
hynaldianum). What are the conditions this should be kept in to make it
flower? It wasn't flowering when I bought it. The plant is fairly big with
quite hard leaves between 50 to 60cm long.
Last month recently bought another Paph, this time in flower (see
attachment), for about 12 pounds. It has 3 flowers on a single the stem. I
don't however have a name for it. Any ideas?
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From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: bark
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:10
Rocky and Dennis thank you for your reply today again about the bark. I
intend to try and order some this evening. Rocky you were slow there! You
should have gone for a large bag of sawdust! There is one nursery I visited
in Madeira where they grow their orchids in sawdust − but I dare say it is a
special kind. He did tell us which it was but I have forgotten.
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From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Sawdust.
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:50
Mornin' Jean,
You tell of sawdust being used in Madeira. Well, I have in my box of tricks, or should I say my box of samples of various composts, a hard lump about the size of a small fist.
It is made up of a mixture of sawdust and volcanic soil, and it came from Madeira. As far as I know, they did try this mix, but it just went quite solid and I believe they gave up on the experiment for obvious reasons.
Regards, Rocky.
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From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: sawdust
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:00
Hi Rocky, I'm surprised they gave up using sawdust all their orchids were thrivin and looked wonderful. Jean
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From: dennis READ
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Sawdust
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:20
In Madeira the Quinta da Boa Vista Orchid Nursery is run by Betty Garton. She is one of the most experienced orchid growers ever and for many years was a foremost hybridiser in the UK running Wyld Court Orchids.
All her orchids in Madiera are grown in Eucalyptus sawdust. I bought some plants from her and tried to grow them on in the UK in the sawdust − a total disaster.
I think the reason was that in Madeira the sawdust dries out quickly but in the UK it stayed wet.
She experimented with it as it was readily available due to the Eucalyptus being designated a weed and a concerted effort being applied to cut them down.
Regards
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From: Anguel Iordanov
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Paph
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:40
I have also read somewhere that you have to keep the plant in a darker and
cooler room (15C) for 2 − 3 months to encourage flowering. Not really sure
if this is necessary at all?
Anguel
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From: Yamaga
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: New member
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:00
Hello!
My name is Hiroshi Yamaga, a lover of Paph.in Japan.
I'd like to join in this group.
My website is http://www14.plala.or.jp/CrazyNet/, Sorry Japanese language
only.
H.Yamaga
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From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: paphs
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:55
Dennis I'm sure that is the nursery I was thinking of. I couldn't remember the name but all their plants did look good. I think you are right − the climate is very different from U.K.
Anguel − one of my orchid friends has always kept her paphs in a room which isn't all that bright and they seem to do better than mine. Geoff is probably the one to come up with some thoughts on the amount of light best for paphs.
Hiroshi − welcome to our group. Your website is wonderful and I plan to go back for another browse. Jean
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] New member
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:20
Welcome to the group.
You have a remarkably fine collection of Paph images − are they all of
plants in your collection ?
Geoff.
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From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] New member
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:05
Thank you, Yamaga for joining and giving us your web
page. Your pictures are really good. While I
couldn't read the written material I was able to note
your growing expertise shown in the pictures. I do
hope that you translate your tutorials.
jns from south Florida
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From: Anguel Iordanov
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Paph
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:50
Hi Geoff,
It was on the label of the plant, but you are absolutely right. From your
personal experience, how does one make this plants grow and flower inside
the house?
Best regards,
Anguel Iordanov
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From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] New member
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:05
Hello and welcome. wonderful pictures.Ronbow.
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From: Ronald Newstead
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] New member
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:55
Great pictures! Congratulations. We would all love to have the language on
your site in English.
Ron
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From: John W Stanley
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Welcome New member
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:50
Hello Hiroshi
Don't apologise for the Japanese! We can all understand the photographs and they are excellent.
Welcome to the group. Like your website, some of us are quite crazy too but there are a few who are reasonably sane and keep us under control.
Orchids seem to affect us in different ways.
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From: Yamaga
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: New member
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:15
Dear Geoff, Jns & Ron
I'm very glad to receive your welcome message and also appreciate to your
visit to my website.
Thanks.
Hiroshi
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: an e-card to you all
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:15
Ps to any real Geek out there ; I tried to paste this picture, so that you would not need to open the file ( hope you can open the file ! ) but despite compression down to quite a small file size, I only seemed to paste a random horizontal slice of the picture, never the whole one .What am I doing wrong ?
Geoffrey Hands
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From: Roy Lee
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] New member
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:15
Welcome Hiroshi, we have talked before in another orchid chat forum and its good to catch up again. Your website is excellent. I look forward to your imput on Paphs in this group.
For those interested, you can read Hiroshis website in English in the main by using http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/ , place the exact website address and I mean exactly as Hiroshi put in his note to the group and selecting the translation line for Japanese to English.
You must then save the result to favourites and then you are free to browse. Not all of the site comes to you in english but makes it easier.
Roy Lee.
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: nutrients and pH values.
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:40
I have just been catching up on my reading ( in other words I am threatened
because the coffee table is disappearing under a heap of unread mags) and ›
Orchids“ „ the American Orchid Soc. Mag has, in the November issue, an
interesting article on some proper experiments carried out using different
amounts of added lime in Paph composts ( ›proper“ meaning not silly old
wives recollections based on single plants, but experiments using batches of
15 same size plants all out of the same pod , etc. Flowering rates, leaf
growth rates etc. are compared.
Just one thing bothers me, in that the units used to describe fertiliser
levels (EC) are unfamiliar.
Can anyone help with a conversion ?
The figures are given in dS/m for EC .
deciSiemens per sq. metre ?
My Hanna meters − many different types over the years read in either µS or
mS − one of which is micro and the other milli ( 1/100th or 1/1000th I
think , but I have forgotten which is which . I guess µS is 1/1000th of a
Siemen since my present meter gives 3 figure readings for EC „ or if above
goes to 1.xxx and it reads in µS − so mS will be like the blue Hannas,
which gave a 2 figure readout, and the instruction to multiply by 10.
So deciSiemens are 10 times mS and 100 times µS ?
But how about the conversion from cm to m − or v.v. Both mean per sq.
whatever ? So a figure given in M needs to be multiplied by 10,000 to
convert to cm ? ( 10,000 sq cm in one sq. metre )
Putting the two together this means that a dS/m reading of say 500 is
converted to a µS/cm reading by the formula 500/100 x 10,000 , resol;ved to
multiply by 100 ?
Which seems to mean that the experiment showed that paphs grew best with a
nutrient value of about 60 µS/cm (and pH of 7.1 )
Very different from what I am doing „ but then my results are ( never) good
enough.
Any genuine scientific comment will be appreciated, before I make a fool of
myself e-mailing the author!
Geoffrey Hands
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From: John W Stanley
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] an e-card to you all
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:25
Hi Geoff,
Thanks for the Christmas greeting (I trust that the word is still politically correct in orchidaceous circles? One never knows these days!). Just for the record, Whatever it was that you did with the pic was OK since it opened with the text of the email on my machine − was no need for me to open it as an attachment.
Thanks again from my bit of the 'all' and A happy Christmas to the two Hands too!
John Stanley
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From: jan
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] nutrients and pH values.
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:20
Hi Geoff,
Deci is 1/10, milli is 1/1000 and micro is 1/1000,000. I looked up
Siemens in Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org − an online encyclopedia)
and it says that it is a measure of electric conductivity, the 'reverse'
of resistance. If you have a 'multimeter' it will have a scale for
measuring resistance in Ohms − Siemens = 1/Ohms. In other words, if you
take your multimeter, dip the electrodes in the fertiliser solution and
measure the resistance to be, say 500 kOhms (=500,000 Ohms) then the
conductivity is 1/500,000 Siemens = 2 microSiemens. I don't know how
much a 'Hanna meter' is, but I have seen multimeters in Maplin for about
£10 to £20 for a reasonable one. My guess, by the way, about the unit
the use 'dS/m' is that it is 'deciSiemens per metre' − but it is a funny
unit; a more natural one would be m/dS. If I'm right it comes from
electrical engineering, where it is interesting to know the resistivity
per metre of cable − a 2 metre cable will normall offer twice as much
resistance as 1 metre.
About your e-card: it came through to me without a problem, but it
seemed to be 3 pictures in one jpg file.
/jan
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From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] an e-card to you all
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:45
Geoff,
Your message and e-card appeared as below on my computer.
Gordon.
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From: Silvio a Beccara
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] an e-card to you all
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:10
Hi Geoff,
thanks for the lovely card, and never mind the pasting businness, it's fairly
easy to open the file anyway.
A merry Christmas to everybody in the list from me, too
Silvio
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From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Thank you Geoff
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:40
Thanks for the Christmas Greeting Geoff and the lovely Cattleya photo. May I wish all our members a Happy Christmas too. I don't think you can 'paste' successfully in Outlook Express, the only you way you can be sure of success is to click the little 'picture' on the toolbar in Outlook Express (if you use it) and then select your photograph. By just clicking the 'attach' option it will show up anyway in the lower panel before the mail is open. That's how I viewed it. Jean
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From: dennis READ
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Paphiopedalum
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:00
This is an orchid I have always found difficilt but here is one I have managed to flower. I agree it is a bit mis-shapen but the colour is a fabulous red. It is P. Mont Nicholle and maybe next year I'll do better. Regards
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From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Paph
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:00
What a wonderful colour your Paph is Dennis − little wonder you are pleased with it. I think it's the prettiest red I've seen in a Paph. Jean
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Paphiopedalum
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:05
P.charlesworthii x Black Maude − officially − but in view of experience with
charlesworthii hybrids, I rather doubt it.
But whatever its ancestry , it's a lovely thing . You must be proud of it.
Geoff.
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From: Rudolf Günnel
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] nutrients and pH values.
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:00
Hello Geoff,
Jan explained the definition of deci-, milli- and micro- right.
So the conversation from dS/m in mS/cm or µS/cm is as following: 1dS/m =
1 mS/cm = 1000 µS/cm.
Best regards from Germany, Rudolf
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From: Sharon Williams
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Den Golden Aya
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:20
I followed the advice from Geoff and others on the care of nobile dens. I
was advised that the Den Golden Aya is a Yamoto hybrid and followed the
directions on their site. It had at least 2 months of very cool nights and
kept relatively dry. Then I put it in a room with min temps around 17C (18
is what was recommended) and it was supposed to bloom 50(I think) days
later. Well it has been in the warmer room 2 weeks now and the buds that
were developing are now developing roots! Grrrr keikies! I am really
disappointed, this is my first winter with nobile type dens and I thought I
was doing everything right.
Geoff recommended 6 weeks was sufficient cooling off for nobile types,
which I followed plus some. No water unless canes began to shrivel, so I
have misted a few times only in the last couple of months. The Den nobile
var sanderianum has nubs which I HOPE are flower buds, with more becoming
apparent each week. The kingianum continues to get keikies even though it
has been dry with cool nights for months. It is also sending up several new
growths -I just don't know how it can do that!!! They may just all end up on
the sales table at our February OS meeting if all I get are keikies!! The
advice on watering varies widely from misting to baby sips OK to absolutely
no water, all firmly stated. Boy this is frustrating!!
Sorry for the grumble, but I am miffed.
Sharon In Calgary
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From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: New address (2nd attempt)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:40
Hi there you lot,
I tried sending this yesterday, but it didn't go
through, so here I am giving it a second go.
As most of you know, Shane and I have been trying to
buy a flat recently, we have now managed and completed
all the stages but one... Moving into our new home!
However, that last step will be completed on Friday
the 16th!
From Friday, our new address will be as follows:
50 Fir Tree Gardens
Shirley
Croydon
CR0 8JQ
Surrey
We won't be 'Londoners' any more, but I'm sure we
still will manage to see all our Lodoner friends, and
the rest of you, don't worry, I am sure we can always
arrange a trip to Amsterdam, Vancouver, South Africa,
New Zealand or wherever you happen to live!
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all of you!
Francis.
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From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Den Golden Aya
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:10
Hi Sharon,
Don't dispair just yet.
I have two Den. nobile type hybrids, and although it
seemed strange to mee, some of the buds did develop
roots, but then when onto flowering normally. Roots is
not a sure sign of keikis until you see them turning
into canes with growing leaves... So keep hoping and
maybe you'll be surprised!
All the best,
Francis.
--- Sharon Williams
escribió:
> I followed the advice from Geoff and others on the
> care of nobile dens. I
> was advised that the Den Golden Aya is a Yamoto
> hybrid and followed the
> directions on their site. It had at least 2 months
> of very cool nights and
> kept relatively dry. Then I put it in a room with
> min temps around 17C (18
> is what was recommended) and it was supposed to
> bloom 50(I think) days
> later. Well it has been in the warmer room 2 weeks
> now and the buds that
> were developing are now developing roots! Grrrr
> keikies! I am really
> disappointed, this is my first winter with nobile
> type dens and I thought I
> was doing everything right.
> Geoff recommended 6 weeks was sufficient
> cooling off for nobile types,
> which I followed plus some. No water unless canes
> began to shrivel, so I
> have misted a few times only in the last couple of
> months. The Den nobile
> var sanderianum has nubs which I HOPE are flower
> buds, with more becoming
> apparent each week. The kingianum continues to get
> keikies even though it
> has been dry with cool nights for months. It is also
> sending up several new
> growths -I just don't know how it can do that!!!
> They may just all end up on
> the sales table at our February OS meeting if all I
> get are keikies!! The
> advice on watering varies widely from misting to
> baby sips OK to absolutely
> no water, all firmly stated. Boy this is
> frustrating!!
> Sorry for the grumble, but I am miffed.
> Sharon In Calgary
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From: dennis READ
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Paphiopedalum
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:25
Geoff, my knowledge of paphs is very little and this was bought as a young plant three years ago as an Eric Young originated plant P. charlesworthii x Black Maud from Plesteds. I looked up the name on Wildcatt. Regards
Geoffrey Hands wrote:
P.charlesworthii x Black Maude − officially − but in view of experience with charlesworthii hybrids, I rather doubt it.
But whatever its ancestry , it's a lovely thing . You must be proud of it.
Geoff.
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Den Golden Aya
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:20
The flaw in all this argument Sharon is that Golden Aya is not a typical
Yamamoto hybrid.
It may have been bred by that gentleman, but it is not what we mean when we
say "Yamamoto" − you only have to look at the canes to see that they are a
different shape.
In fact Golden Aya is D.aphrodite x D.capillipes − a primary hybrid with no
D.nobile in it.
The "true" Yamamoto hybrids are (say) 50% nobile , and hence the conditions
which suit nobile are dominant in their requirements.
I have found Golden Aya a difficult plant to succeed with, but don't have it
in my collection at present.
But please remember when I give you advice − and I guess that will be true
for all of us who try to help , we can only generalise, based on out own
experience, in our conditions. The art of growing orchids is finding out
what works for you with your plants and in your conditions , and however
much advice you get , its not quite that easy. If it was, some of us
perverse types would be doing something else perhaps !.
Just keep taking the medicine...
Geoff.
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From: dennis READ
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Something different
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:50
Here are two pics of orchids not usually shown on this site.The first is Coelogyne naja,- it has brown/pink leaves, unusual for orchids, and salmonicolor flowerand a dark brown lip. Naja in Indian translates as cobra. This was bought as a division at Newbury and is a sequential florister with up to 20 flowers on a stem.
Next Lycaste longipetalum, now known as Ida heynderycxii. It is 5.5 ins. or 18 cms. x4ins. or 4.1cms. To me it is a fantastic flower. Regards
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From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Den Golden Aya
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:25
Dendrobium Golden Aya is not a Yamamoto 'nobile' hybrid. It is a primary
cross between capillipes & aphrodite. Hybridiser Nagasaka, 1985.
Peter Fowler, Alton, U.K.
Birthplace of William Curtis.
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From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Dends
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:10
Poor Sharon! How disappointing for you. Why not give it just one more year and do exactly as you did before but make sure that you give it winter sun and stop, feed well in the spring but stop feeding around June or July. That was the advice I was given and I do get lots of flowers now. Hope it works for you. Apparently feeding well after the middle of the year promotes more growth like keikeis. Let's see if the other members agree. Jean
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From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Den Golden Aya
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:20
Hello Sharon,
I'm afraid that I can't help you much with your problem Dens but I do offer
you my deepest condolences for I do know how frustrating your situation can
be. Do keep trying and I am sure you will eventually enjoy success. I send
you my sincere best wishes and trust you will have the best of all
Christmas's.
Ronbow.
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Something different
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:50
I think I saw those Coelogynes, and being a sceptic some of the time anyway
, I wondered what was wrong with them !. Clearly I got it wrong − that was
one time when I should have been a believer.
Most unusual that coloring !
Geoff.
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From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: trouble with images... and dendrobes...
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:55
I think I have now found the trouble − my images are always made in
Photoshop ( v 9.0 aka CS2) which I bought as an upgrade of my v.8.0 ( CS)
and I had forgotten thatit was "only" an upgrade , and doing some
"cleaning-up" I said to myself, why have I got that CS cluttering up my
Programs/Adobe/Photoshop folder ? I know I need the Plug-ins etc., but not
that one.. I'll swipe it into the Recycle bin.
I guess it included some files I actually need. I discovered this when
trying to load CS2 onto my lap-top to do some pictures whilst I am away from
home over Xmas, and found it would not install unless CS was there first.
So I've done the necessary re-installation , bowed three times to Adobe,
burnt a few joss sticks, and we'll see if there is any more trouble .
Geoff.
Ps my D.fimbriatum has now got 12 spikes. but they are developing so fast ,
hope they are still out when I get back from my Xmas hols !
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From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cymbidiums can flower in Miami
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:55
Three weeks ago I posted Piki with one curved spike.
That was caused by being on its side for two weeks
after the hurricane. But these spikes have formed
while upright and protected with Orthene (to stop the
thrips). One more spike will open next week. Our
temperature has been consistently much lower then
normal. But we have had no downward spikes. Growth
has slowed up but no damaged.
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From: Ronald Newstead
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Paphiopedalum
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:55
Whatever name it has, it‹s a wonderful colour. Congratulations, Dennis.
Ron
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