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From: Max Redman
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Den. Alice Bound parentage?
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 03:15

Sharon,
Wildcatt shows that the den. you ask about has unknown parentage. Could be anything. However I wonder how it was registered?
Cheers
Max.

From: Orchids
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Den. Alice Bound parentage?
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 04:25

Have checked Wildcatt and the RHS and both came up as parents unknown will
keep looking for you though.

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Jay Pfahl ( the superb orchid encyclopaedia − now with almost 6000 species shown ) and Hurricane Wilma
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 08:05

Sad news there − umpteen feet of watert destroyed a lot of his stuff − but
he is a fighter , and is on his way back − still hopes to get up to 6000
species this year.
For first hand info go to :- www.orchidspecies.com/index

From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Den. Alice Bound parentage?
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 08:15

It is registered with the RHS but they record the parentage as Unknown. Have a look at their search engine at http://www.rhs.org.uk/research/registerpages/orchidsearch.asp

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Payment.
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:10

Got this off as soon as possible. I will E-mail you later with all of the details that you require.

From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: thanks Geoff
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:40

Thank you for the info Geoff. I sent an order last evening so will wait to hear from them and then pay a visit to the bank. Jean

From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Roger
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 10:00

Thanks Rocky you are a gem but don't take a great deal of trouble as Geoff sent some info this morning and it looks like I wait to hear from them and then go to the bank. Jean

From: Tim Fulcher
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Dendrobes and Keys
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:05

Dressler in one of his Appendices gives a key to the main groups and
there are artificial keys in Genera Orchidacearum, but no overview of
the groups that I know of. You'd do better emailing the OGD and seeing
what comes out of the flame wars! Most seem to be restricted to
regional floras.

Geoffrey Hands wrote:
>
> What is wanted ( and I don't know where to find it) to answer this
> question
> is a key to the entire family of orchids ...

From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Flower spotting
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:00

Thanks for all your advice about flower spotting. I don't think it is
caused by thrips but it was good to prompt me to have a good look at them
all rather than assume only one possible cause. I have turned the heating
up a bit higher and the humidity is noticeably lower. I think it got a bit
cold on a couple of those rather dank days. Interesting though that it was
only a couple of cattleyas that were affected and that these were plants of
good substance.

Ah well there's always next year! Here's the Cattleya bowringiana before
the spotting became noticeable.

From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: some flowers
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:05

Nice flowers Geoff. I particularly like the Boxallii too − does it have any scent?

I don't grow hot enough for Vandas and the ones that reputedly will grow intermediate languished and faded eventually. All except Rothschildiana that is.

From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Thermostats and heaters
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:35

I think there was some chat about thermostats recently but I can't find it. So what do you recommend and from what supplier?

My Parwin fan heater decided not to work a couple of days ago − thankfully I was at home and spotted it and switched over to the spare. It is less than 3 years old and tyhe motor needs replacing − my spare spare though is an old Jemp fan heater that I have had for nigh on 20 years and still going strong.

From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: heater
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:00

Andy I have two Parwin heaters and one of them went wrong a year or two after having it so I contacted the Parwin firm and they were very good. I had to send it back but they arranged pick up, delivery and the cost was very little. I only had to pay for the new part. I was very impressed with the service so give them a ring and see what happens. Jean

From: Sharon Williams
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: some flowers
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:15

Hi Andy: I am interested to know which Vandas can be grown in intermediate environment, as this would suit me much better. I do have a couple of Ascocendas which I understand do not need the high temps of Vandas. Do you have any idea why the intermediate Vandas you grew failed?
Thanks
Sharon

From: Ronald Newstead
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Pictures
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:20

From: John W Stanley
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Thermostats and heaters
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:30

Just for the record, we had an 'in-guarantee' failure of an Arizona fan heater which has a superb continuously monitoring thermostat giving very stable temperature control. While it was being attended to, under guarantee, we bought a cheap B&Q domestic fan heater (£19-99) which carried us over the panic period. We will certainly retain this as a contingency heater. At the price, even if it were to last only six months it would be excellent value. Incidentally, within a week we had the Arizona back fully repaired.
John Stanley

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Dendrobes and Keys
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:35

It concerns how epiphytic orchids obtain their nutrition ; I know the answer
( or am ready to present an argued case ) from some experiments I made in a
rain-forest. ( and of course I have discussed it often enough in talks to
Orchid Societies, on my web site, and on the List forum ) .
I am just about to shyow some slides of tropical orchids in their natural
habitat , with accompanying discourse to a local Natural History Society ,
and I wonder if I can safely claim to have made original discoveries in that
area ( nutrition) ?

Or , maybe my observations ( and theory) duplicates known and published
information ?

I tried googling on the subject and came up only with theories which I
rubbish ( epiphytes are air plants − they live on air and don't need
nutrients / birds / they collect fragments of decaying leaf around their
roots, and the resulting humus provides all they need ) − all of which would
be disregarded by any observer who actually looks at them in the wild.

P.s Dressler's book was one I was trying to recall when I did my message
about this − it got lost when I moved house, and I did not bother to buy it
again, as much was rather above my head !

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: some flowers
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:40

I don't think lamellata can have much scent , or I would have commented − I
just went to check , but it is in a group in the hall, amongst several
Zygo's and they will overpower most other things anyway.
The large-flowered Vandas mostly love my present conditions − they seem to
be flowering twice a year , and I have spotted a few double-spiking.
Congrats on your bowringiana . How long did your flowers last ?

From: Ronald Newstead
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Flower spotting
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:45

From: dennis READ
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Abreviation
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:45

From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Flower spotting
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:55

I grow all my plants intermediate − min night winter 13 degrees, min day
winter 20. Since the days had been so bright the temperature was naturally
rising well above this and I had not bothered to put on the day heater.
Thats how come the day temp dropped a bit too low for a while and I think
that was the cause of the problem.

From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: some flowers
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:00

From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: some flowers
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:15

I don't know a great deal about them but V Rothschildiana definitely grows cooler than most. It's a hybrid between V coerula and V (now Euanthe?) sanderiana and is a fantastic blue to boot!

I would think that V coeula, V coerulescens and hybrids that contain a lots of these.

Hi Andy: I am interested to know which Vandas can be grown in intermediate environment, as this would suit me much better.

From: MARK GRIFFITHS
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Asda Paph.
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:45

Really nice. I was very tempted when I saw something similar at a local Wyvale Garden Centre. However I'm wondering how easy they would be in a house? I'm having problems with my current small collection after moving..but wondering if Paphs might do better.

Could not resist another visit to my local Asda store of yesterday morning. Just a few orchids remained on the shelf!!!

From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Roger and Andy
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 18:15

Thank you so much Roger for taking the trouble to scan that item. I did pop to the bank this morning and it went just as you explained. They filled in a form exactly like the one you scanned and someone else checked it and then it was passed to me to check again. I'm ordering for 6 of us so the bank charge of £18 will also be split 6 ways as will the 45 Euros postage so as we are ordering 24 plants in all the charges don't add up to all that much extra per plant.
Andy − glad you are on the way to getting the heater fixed. I'd hate to be without my Parwin as it contols day and night temps for me. − Cheers Jean

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: some flowers
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:55

From: Ronald Newstead
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Flower spotting
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:30

From: P G Hieke
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Names please
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 06:25

Hi Ron,
Blouberstrand is a suburb of Cape Town, 20 kms to the north.
Right on the edge of Table Bay, opposite of Robben Island.
Unfortunately this is the end of the road. There are too many
white flowers.
Regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

From: P G Hieke
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Vandas
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 06:35

Hi Sharon,
it is not the temperature that Vandas need, it's the sunlight. Some of them
like Vanda/Papilionanthe teres needs full sun to grow and flower. On the
other end Vanda cristata is happy with much less sunlight. Vanda tricolor
grows in both areas. There are a number of Vandas that can be grown in
less sunlight. You just have to look for Vandas that come from higher
elevations and not from lowland areas.
Regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Mark's Paph.
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:00

From: Sharon Williams
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Restrpia guttalata keikies instead of flowers!
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:20

Here I was so proud of myself − I thought they were buds,but now realize they are keikies with roots! What did I do wrong? If this is another plant like a kingianum I think I will scream!
Sharon

From: suzanne sadler
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: mail
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:30

I keep a paph in the house with no problems. It sits on a well shaded south facing window with humidity of approx 50-60. I keep it moist and it has rewarded me with some beautiful flowers this May and is looking as though it is coming into flower again. It was a £5 bargain from my local garden centre.

From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Restrpia guttalata keikies instead of flowers!
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:45

I recently announced very proudly that a division of
Pleuro. restrepiodes from Dennis was also showing
signs of a flower spike coming soon... Well, it turned
out to be a keiki too!

Oh well, that means having more plants so you can
experiment with different conditions and see which set
of conditions gives you the best results!

From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Sharon
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:00

Sharon I was told this by a very experienced nurseryman who has spent his life, as his father before him, with orchids. He says to look at the year's growth very carefully and when the top two leaves show no others coming up inside then that is the time to stop watering for a few weeks as they have a dry period. He also told me to stop feeding in about June/July. It'll be interesting to see what the others say. I also give my plants as much winter sun as possible − I am in U.K. and not some glorious sunny winter place so the sun is not intense and not very plentiful either but it seems to work for me. I am talking about the nobile types which are very quick to make kiekies. Mine haven't done that since I followed his advice. The Kingianum types of course don't have that dry period as far as I know. It'll be interesting to see what other members say. Always with orchids it's worth persevering for they certainly do come up trumps very often and reward you with spendid blooms. Don't be discouraged. As long as the plent is alive and healthy − there is always next season. Jean

From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Sharon
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:00

Sorry Sharon I've just read your email again and see you are talking about a different orchid. I should have read the 'subject' before dashing off an email! I'm really not sure about your orchid as I have never had one of those. Jean

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Suzanne the Sadler.
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:15

Your Paph for a 'Fiver' was a tremendous bargain. It sure does look very good, and as I can see at least one more bud, is it a multi flowering type. If so it was indeed a bargain.

From: dennis READ
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Restrpia guttalata keikies instead of flowers!
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:45

This is for both Sharon and Francis. In my opinion keikis are formed when the plant is so happy it does not have to make seeds to perpetuate itself. For Resrtrepias go to www.restrepia.co.uk Colin Howe, who runs this site has an overhead sprinkler system and so his restrepias are only lightly fed with a foliar feed that is then washed of. My guess is that you are feeding them too well. Revert to water only.
Regards

From: "SKELLAM, Richard"
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: New greenhouse
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:55

First, thank you to Orchid talk for making me feel so welcome and
second, thank you for such immediate and useful advice.

As a result I have changed the planned position of the greenhouse to
make better use of the sun further away from trees. I don't grow a lot
of Vandas at the moment, but would like to! I particularly would like to
grow a wide range of dendrobiums − although I do seem to be finding
conflicting advice here from books. I appreciate that there is a wide
range of dendrobiums and they have to be treated differently but even
then there are contradictions. In the Latoura types I have one source
that says no rest , another that they need a 'decided' rest (is it us
that decides or the plant?).

Can anyone recommend a good book on dendrobiums that will help me
identify the different types and how to treat them?

I am still not sure about the floor . By edge effects is this the same
as the effect of a cold bridge? (Which results from not ensuring that
insulation used for the sidewalls is in contact with that used for the
floor). This is a common building problem , but can be resolved by using
internal insulated base walls on a floating floor. . I appreciate the
economics consideration however, as at a cost of about A3200 for the
insulation materials alone , a heat saving of 10-15% will still take
some time to recover. I think environmental considerations are important
however, in addition to saving energy , insulation will surely provide
a more stable temperature environment, summer and winter.

Similarly for the flooring , I love the smell of a greenhouse with an
earth floor (albeit covered in Mypex and chippings) but if I go for the
insulated floor this will dictate a concrete floor. ( Will I get thrown
out when it becomes apparent how much trouble I have with decisions?)

The Jaybird sounds popular − no bad words said about it , apart from the
effect of calcium deposits. Perhaps this wont be a problem − we have
Welsh water which is very low on dissolved solids. According to my (now
defunct − because it got too wet!) conductivity meter it only read 3
microsemens, but perhaps it was on its way out by then!. I have to say
tho, that I was not intending to spray the 70 bars directly on the
orchids!

Thanks again − as a newcomer with little experience my concern is how I
can contribute other than to ask questions and treat this as some sort
of help desk!

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] New greenhouse
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 18:05

then there are contradictions. In the Latoura types I have one source
that says no rest , another that they need a 'decided' rest (is it us that
decides or the plant?).

I think that there can be more than one way of getting success , and hence
different people can advocate different things. You just have to find out
what workjs for you

Can anyone recommend a good book on dendrobiums that will help me identify
the different types and how to treat them?

The best little book I know is "Dendrobiums − An Introduction to the Species
in Cultivation" by Sybella Schelpe and Joyce Stewart. − about 115 pages,
good advice. But you may find it difficult to get ( try the 2nd hand orchid
book-sellers ). The recent one is Dendrobium and its Relatives − which lists
all known spoecies − Lavarack, Harris and Stocker − but has nothing usefujl
to say about cultivation apart from what you can glean from habitat
descriptions.

I am still not sure about the floor . By edge effects is this the same as
the effect of a cold bridge?

No. Edge effects means this . If you have a space say 25 feet square, you
will find that the heat loss per square foot is pretty well constant over
the central area, but rather different near the edges. Edges, for
temperature differences of say 20 deg C. means the 2 or 3 feet nearest the
edge of the space. So a lonfg narrow space − a greenhouse 10 foot wide, is
hardly worth insulating ( under the floor) because it will only be effective
for a bit in the middle. In a wide greenhouse, it starts to be worthwhile.

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] RE: Restrpia guttalata keikies instead of flowers!
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 18:10

P.restrepiodes is rather prone to throw keikis − but this happens in the
jungle too ! Personally I think it makes an attractive plant when the
keikis flower !

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Book on Dendrobiums.
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 18:35

First things first, as they say. Can you please alter the way in which your text appears. I'm not sure what the answer is, but I think that either Tricia, Jean, or one of the other members does.

Growing Orchids by J. N. Rentoul. Book Three. Vandas, Dendrobiums and others. ISBN 0 85091 155 9 Paperback.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Dendrobium speciosum. The Rock Lily.
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 18:45

I was doing some research, and I punched in Dendrobium speciosum..........and up came this Australian website that told me that my 'Rock Lily' had been re-named by some Taxonomist group.

If you read what they have to say about two species on Norfolk Island, and then look closely at ALL, or MOST Dendrobium speciosums, then I cant see what they wanted to change the name for.

Mine has just started to show flower spike, so it will be many weeks until it does flower. Then I will take close up photographs and do some experimental work with the pollinia.

They cite the word 'Cleistogamous, which to us New Forest yokels means that the flowers are mostly self fertilised, as the pollinia, or grains from it fall onto the stigma.

From: suzanne sadler
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Suzanne the Sadler.
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:55

When i bought the paph it had finished flowering and had no label so I took a chance mainly because I have never grown one before and if I killed it I wouldn't be too much out of pocket. It is a real beauty, the flower stem had three flowers in total and once they were all out the blooms lasted for over a month. My friend Ann bought some discounted paphs from her local greengrocer and ended up with a pale yellow one and a white one.

i am amazed by the perfectness of my orchid blooms everyday, I especially love the common (common as in freely available) white phalenopsis (don't know name), I have one with huge flowers. I wondered what other members favourite orchids are, alot more sophisticated than mine no doubt.

From: Dr Chong-Yee Khoo
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Books on Dendrobiums
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:35

>Can anyone recommend a good book on dendrobiums that will help me identify
the different types and how to treat them?

The most comprehensive cultural treatment is by Baker and Baker "Orchid
Species Culture: Dendrobium ~Margaret L. Baker, Charles O. Baker Timber Pr
ess"

This is pretty heavy stuff, with no pictures (or even any indication of Sect
ions).

Available from Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0881923605/qid3D1108559138/ref3Ds
r_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-6509399-2333226

Another good book is "Dendrobium and Its Relatives ~P. S. Lavarack, et al
Timber Press" It's a lot more readable than the Baker book, has fantastic
photos but is much less comprehensive.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0881924903/qid3D1108559138/ref3Ds
r_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-6509399-

I would regard both as essential in any library of a serious Dendrobium enth
usiast.

Flrora Malesiana: Orchids of New Guinea Volume II: Dendrobium and Allied
Genera (NHN CD-ROM 2001)
Massive amount of information on 567 species
Good pictures (including type specimens), key
Needs computer to access

Schelpe & Stewart: Dendrobiums: an Introduction to the Species in
Cultivation (Orchid Sundries Ltd 1990)
Well illustrated, concise information
Starting to show its age

Walter T. Upton: Dendrobium Orchids of Australia (Timber Press 1989)
Excellent messagesduction to Australian species and hybrids
Good line drawings, useful information
Starting to show its age

Shiraishi Shigeru: Treasury of Native Orchids (Ie-No-Hiraki Association
2001) (in Japanese)

From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: favourites
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 09:00

Suzanne I'm so glad you sound so enthusiastic for you truly sound like each one of us here! The Phalaenopsis is tops I think for long lasting flowers and is high on my list as are Cattleyas for me. I have lots of success with the first as they are easy to grow indoors but I have more trouble with the Catts but they are really worth the effort. Like most people here if it's an orchid I love it and want it! I have a feeling you are going to feel like that too before long! Jean

From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: banks
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 09:10

Thank you Andy. I went to the bank and it happened as you say. My bank The Royal Bank of Scotland charges £18 for a 4-5 day service and £25 for next day service. I opted for the £18 which is going to be shared between 6 of us so it isn't too bad. One member has suggested if we send again that we should just send Euros. It's something to think about. I have sent cast to Canada, America, and Germany and I've not had any problem − (yet!). Jean

Rocky and Richard. I delete letters once I've read them but keep the ones with the advice I asked for or find useful so that I can refer to them again. I must have deleted Richard's letter so am not sure what the text looks like. If you can send another note around Richard we can have a look at it. I do seem to remember one coming around with dashes and squiggles on and we were getting alot like that a bit back including my own and it was something to do with the format it was sent in and needed to be changed. I'm sure Tricia or I can suggest something if you let us look at another email from you. Jean

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Suzy's Oncidiums.
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 09:10

So what's this you say about getting your Oncidiums to flower. What type are they, and from where did you get them? Then hopefully the members will be able to offer some help.

From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Restrpia guttalata keikies instead of flowers!
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 09:15

I stopped using any feed or fertilizer as I couldn't
get hold of much rain water and had to use tap water
(and I'm in London, so rather hard water). Then after
a really good, wet summer, I have managed to get a few
bottles of rain water, and that is what I have been
using for a while. It started throwing a couple of new
roots, and what I thought to be a flower spike also
threw a couple of roots, but it stopped growing. It's
doing nothing at the moment, but growing healthy roots
(at least that is a good sign... I guess).

From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: [OrchidTalk]Rocky's text problem
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 09:40

Rocky, can you tell us what problem you are finding with Richard's text?
It's absolutely fine here, excellent formatting and easy to read. If you
can describe your problem no doubt someone will be able to suggest a
solution.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Richard's letter.
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 10:30

Below is a COPY of Richard's letter that I received. ALL other E-mails are received O.K.

First, thank you to Orchid talk for making me feel so welcome and
second, thank you for such immediate and useful advice.20

Can anyone recommend a good book on dendrobiums that will help me
identify the different types and how to treat them?

Thanks again − as a newcomer with little experience my concern is how I
can contribute other than to ask questions and treat this as some sort
of help desk!

From: dennis READ
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Restrepias
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:10

Sharon, i accept it is frustrating to get a keiki but Geof is right. here is an un-named species flowering on keikis.
Regards

From: suzanne sadler
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Suzy's Oncidiums.
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:35

My oncidiums are a mixed bag. So far this year I have coxed my Rosy Sunset into flower and have just noticed that my mule leafed Josephine is sprouting flower stems. I am having no luck with my Dancing Dolls and I think my equitants are so far too small to flower as they were divisions but they are merrily growing roots and leaves so they probably will in the end. I lack patience sometimes. My zygopetalum is growing its second set of flower spikes because (and this will freak out all the orchid growers with greenhouses and heaters etc), I had the plant hanging out of a bedroom window to allow the rain water to wash off the thick covering of lime mortar it had acquired due to being in the bathroom when my husband ripped down a wall. I only just remebered to get the plant in before this cold snap but it is looking very perky so it is obviously ok. I treat my plants mean but I love them and haven't lost one yet).

So what's this you say about getting your Oncidiums to flower. What type are they, and from where did you get them? Then hopefully the members will be able to offer some help.

From: John W Stanley
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk]Rocky's text problem
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:35

> Rocky, can you tell us what problem you are finding with Richard's text?
> It's absolutely fine here, excellent formatting and easy to read. If you
> can describe your problem no doubt someone will be able to suggest a
> solution.

From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Help with a name?
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:20

I have a polystachya hybrid which I would like to
name. On the label it says Pol. zambesiaca x confusa.

I have tried the net, but can't find anything on Pol.
confusa. Can anyone shed any lights as to what the
proper name of confusa would be now (if it has been
changed to anything?). I can't find a single entry on
the net for it, and I can't follow up on the name of
my hybrid without it.

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Help with a name?
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:40

You don't need it. P.confusa is − or was − a proper name. If it has been
changed according to "the rules" the Registrar will tell you what they call
it now, and he will amend the form for you.

Its worth an e-mail first − assuming you have already checked a database and
think its not been registered ,saying you propose to register this − and
awaiting comments − in case a registration is now pending . And the same
goes for your selected name − check it first, and include it in your e-mail.

From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: text
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:05

I think this may solve the problem with Richard's text. Richard you need to open your email problem (this is in Outlook Express) click 'options' then 'send' then 'plain text' and the number in the box should be around 76 and take out the little tick where it says 'indent' that will stop all those annoying
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: orchid calendar
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:05

I can't remember if I sent this information around before or not but every year I make orchid calendars and this year rose ones too. They are available to print out free on the web. I print them out on A4 thin card, punch two holes in the top and hang it with cord near my computer as does my husband. If you would like to print them out you will find them here: orchid calendar: http://www.geocities.com/aeranthes/calendarindex.htm
and the rose one is here: http://www.geocities.com/aeranthes/rosecalendarindex.htm
If you want the colour to come out on the background you may need to tell your printer to allow colour background in your printer 'advanced' options. Jean

From: Sharon Williams
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Restrepia advice from the master
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:20

Dear Sharon,
Thanks for your e-mail, my first from Canada !
I don't think you are doing anything wrong with your guttulata. Have you flowered it before or have you
just got it ? Because I have several different clones of this species, most of which have different habits.
Several grow keikies regularly, others never. What I would do is remove the keikies once they have formed
good roots, and pot them up, ready to swap/exchange with other growers. I would also leave the plant mounted,
the fact that it is showing new growth from the base, indicates it's a happy plant. Your temperature range seems fine,
although my 'min' is a little lower (11C).
Moving on to your R.brachypus. Purple leaves are not a problem, most of the plants I purchase from people such as
Manolo Arias of Peru show purple leaves. It just the result of strong sunshine in the country of origin, in fact your
green leaves will go that way given a little more sunshine. I try to get a happy medium between the two in my greenhouse.
The fact that it hasn't grown since you got it in September, and the colour of the leaves, would suggest it a recent import,
and will take a while to adjust. Nothing to worry about.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Polystachya.
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:55

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Oncidiums.
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:00

Just a few weeks ago I lost my Oncidium bicallosum, it dropped its one remaining large leaf, so what is left........is being left well alone just in case a new growth may emerge. It has been treated no different than other Mule-eared Oncids that I have, so it's anyone's guess!

From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Rocky's text problem
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:00

From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: text
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:00

In article ,
aeranthes2 wrote:
> I think this may solve the problem with Richard's text. Richard you need
> to open your email problem (this is in Outlook Express) click 'options'
> then 'send' then 'plain text' and the number in the box should be around
> 76 and take out the little tick where it says 'indent' that will stop all
> those annoying Jean

The other suggestion, sent in by Jon when this arose last year is to use
character set US ASCII instead of ISO 8859-1 as that uses a correct
character to indicate the end of each line.

I personally don't wish to delete quotation indicators (the > marks which
so irritate Jean) as I like to know which part of a message is quoted and
which part is new. In fact I would prefer it if more people used them :-)

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Sendingof E-mail.
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:35

Carrying on from what Jean has said about sending E-mail, I hope that this will help those who are not so clever with computers.

Up pops a small menu. Run your eye down to the bottom word, OPTIONS, and click on it.

You will now be looking at the next menu which I have 'attached', and you will be able to see the 'Radio Buttons' in the correct location, just as Jean has said.

Just above the lower two small circles you will see the words, NEWS SENDING FORMAT, and to the right you will see, PLAIN TEXT SETTINGS, click on it and then see my second attachment for the guide to put what where.

Hope this helps, and if it works for all of us, then maybe we can accept it as a standard, so thanks Jean for your valuable information, and if anything needs to changed or updated, then so be it.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Humour.
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:40

I have just had a look at Jeans wonderful 'Calendar', and I subscribed as asked..............back came a very prompt E-mail, telling me to: Please click the ling below to confirm your subscription to Jean's mailing list. Thank you.

And Geoff, your latest E-mail............must have been a good bottle of wine!!!

From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: calendar
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 13:40

Please do John that would be fine by me. That's why I put them up for anyone to use and hopefully enjoy. − Thank you. Jean

From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Emailing: DSC00755.JPG from RHS Orchid Show
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:25

Hello All,
I obtain this plant in May from a B&Q store. unnamed and in flower with 1 stem with 3 blooms costing £4.95.To my surprise it has now bloomed again on the 2 new stems grown since May.
However to my further surprise and pleasure it wasapparently shown at the RHS National Orchid Show in September, and is featured in the current issue of the RHS Orchid review. There are 2 pictures, Pages 303 and 307.
The 303 picture has the name Polinara Beauty whilst that on page 307, it apparently is a semi-peloric X Brassolliocattleya Varut called, Magic Show. Both, if the are different were displayed by David Stead Orchids.
I think that there is a slight difference in the 2 pictures. I am not ar fait with this species and only bought it because I thought it was good value and I have a liking for yellow flowers especially Phals (Of which I have yet to see a good one.) If it was for sale at the show, I think it would not have been offered at £4.95. Perhaps I am mistaken but I don't think so. My picture is a bit dark, I know not why and the next, thro nice and bright is not sharp, equally I know not why.
I think the plants are the same and in the flesh are quite stunning, but I would welcome comments.
Ronbow.
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From: Ronald Newstead
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: mail
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:20

From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: photo
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:55

Ronbow your plant is lovely and looks very much like one I bought from a Thai firm at the London Show a few years ago. It wasn't named and he said it was Lc. Netasiri Doll but searching around the Internet I can't see one exactly like it so maybe it is a hybrid of this and another Lc? Jean

From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Rocky
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:55

Thanks!lol Are you sure you meant to subscribe? The mailing list is set up by Bravenet and demands a second request so that I can't add people myself, they have to really want to join the mailing list so they get them to sign in twice. It was a mistake me putting it on the calendar page as the mailing list is for people who want to read every new page I add but this is on my poetry site and I add lots of poems, short greetings for people to send around to friends etc. There are lots of sites doing this kind of thing and seem to be very popular − for those people who like poetry. I don't have a similar thing for orchids as my major site is the poetry one. Jean

From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: text
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:00

That was very clever of you Roger adding a photographic shot of the options box. Did you hit 'Print Screen' to do this? Jean

From: aeranthes2
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: photo
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:15

Ron N the orchid in your photograph looks very much like mine. Do you have a name for it? Jean

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: New Paph.
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:00

Photo taken in the kitchen with flash, brief case used as a backdrop. Camera, Canon Ixus 55.

P.S. Has anyone got the 2006 programme for the Bournemouth orchid Society please.

Have just looked at the Wessex orchid Society programme for 2006..........I would like to go to the October and November meeting.

From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk list
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] New Paph.
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:15

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