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From: John W Stanley
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk]How to size a file if photosizing advice is gibberish to you
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 02:20

Just in case some of us are lost in space when it comes to sizing a file,
would it be of use to try to help?
Many graphics packages incl PhotoShop and PaintShopPro will provide a means
but the likelyhood is that if you don't know how to size a file you won't
use these expensive options!
Go to http://www.irfanview.com/main_download_engl.htm )
Download it and Install it by clicking on the downloaded file.
First, copy your jpg file and use the copy in the following procedure.
Click on the red IrfanView icon on the desktop and select "image" and in
that menu select "resize/resample".
There will be an indication of the size you already have and an option to
resize in pixels.
Make sure "aspect ratio" is fixed and then simply enter 800 for the longest
side of the image.
Save the image as 12345-b (or whatever) and use that to email.
Irfanview is a wonderful little programme with all sorts of great facilities
and is absolutely safe.
John Stanley

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Bifrenaria Harrisoniae
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:35

Thank you very much for the 'promt'. Yes I have four of Rentoul's books, and I rate them very highly. I did many years ago write to him, but unfortunately he had just died and his daughter wrote and answered my letter.

It now seems that any owners of Bifrenariae Harrisoniae that know of our 'Club' could do no better than moitor their plant and give us all some rewarding information.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Low cost orchids.
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:05

My local ASDA Supermarket has some very good orchids for sale, and on enquiring, I was told that all of the ASDA stores would be selling orchids at the same price.

Phalaenopsis - Miltonias - Dendrobiums - Vulstekearas - Odontoglossum/Oncidium crosses etc.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Help with E-mail addresses.
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:30

Because my Hard-drive crashed a couple of weeks ago, and the only item that I did not back up was the E-mails from our Club Members, I have since found that i need a few that I have missed.

Also, the nice lady from Peru. She and her family are starting up a good business, and I think she told me that they will soon have a web-site. She also dod E-mail me direct. Name???? Must be my 67 years head is too full of information!!!

From: Ron Bower
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Low cost orchids.
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:25

Rocky,
Thanks for the tip-off, I will visit some stores tomorrow. When looking threw the archives I came across your message regarding the Dendrobniums that you bought cheaply, those that were in the clay pots,resembling Mexican hats dancers hats, without any drainage holes. I have aquirered some the same exactly as you described.They had been selling at £25.00. each containing 2 plants as yours.One was devoid of flowers, the other had 2. I got them for £15.00 the two. I have done a "Rocky" and repotted them in to pebbles. One into the clay pot after drilling many holes in it. Laborious Work! and it weighs about a ton when filled with pebbles. I obtained them at the end of March and one has a new shoot just showing.
Regards, Ronbow

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Drilling holes.
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:20

As most of us know, it appears that Europe is the only area in the world that do not, and will not make clay pots with holes or slits in them. Worlwide Members........is this correct? What about our 'Oz' members?

As I said before, the best type of 'Masonry drill' to use is available in 'B & Q' stores. They go under the trade name of 'Bullet Drills', are manufactured in Germany, and are excellent.

Ron, if you do get some you will find them very good, and if you 'waggle' the drill as you drill the hole it will be done easier.

From: Orchids
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Drilling holes.
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:55

Well here in Sydney Australia we have Clay Pots with one hole in centre of
bottom of pot normally we have to try and make a little bigger no slits in
side
Les

From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Calanthe's spike?
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:40

The reason I'm asking is because I bought a Cal.
discolor a few months ago, and now, although the
growth is somehow small (in my opinion), it has a
spike growing from the side. Bulbs are now beginning
to develop, but looking inside the growth, in between
some leaves, I can see something else growing. I'm not
sure if it is a side growth or another spike. Is it
usual for Calanthes to have two or more spikes on one
growth?

This is the first time I've tried this genus, so I
don't really now much about its growth habits and anys
specific needs.

From: nancy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Drilling holes.
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:40

Hello -
Though the US stores do carry 'orchid' pots with holes
or slits, they are inadequate for actually growing
orchids!
If you have a table saw, try enlarging these, or
making new ones in plain pots, with a dry masonry
blade. I cut nearly up to the rim, and make the slots
about 3 blade widths wide.
The large home improvement stores carry these blades
for about $5, and they do wear out quickly.
If you plan to do this, save up a number of pots, and
set aside some time; you will need to wear eye, lung
and hearing protection. Long sleeves, long pants, and
shoes or boots with socks (a red-hot chip of terra
cotta will always find your foot).
I usually drag the saw out to the yard, as this makes
an incredible mess; after, I look like an
oompa-loompa.
Regards - Nancy (south Louisiana)

~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I think that I shall never see
A billboard lovely as a tree.
Perhaps, unless the billboards fall,
I'll never see a tree at all."
(Ogden Nash, "Song of the Open Road," 1933)

From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Rockwall blocks in the UK
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:35

Hi everyone, I am after a supplier of Rockwall blocks in the UK. Two
Wests used to sell them but not anymore.
Thanks in advance.

From: Ron Newstead
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Drilling holes.
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:20

Roger, England is in Europe, albeit reluctantly. Don't you mean the
Continent?
Ron

As most of us know, it appears that Europe is the only area in the world
that do not, and will not make clay pots with holes or slits in them.
Worlwide Members........is this correct? What about our 'Oz' members?

As I said before, the best type of 'Masonry drill' to use is available
in 'B & Q' stores. They go under the trade name of 'Bullet Drills', are
manufactured in Germany, and are excellent.

Ron, if you do get some you will find them very good, and if you
'waggle' the drill as you drill the hole it will be done easier.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Clay pots.
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:20

It seems a shame to me that you people in Australia who would like clay pots with holes in them, would not be able to import them from Malaysia at a reasonable price.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Import permits, paperwork, etc.
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:40

Recently, I imported some orchids from Italy. No import permits are required for the European Union Countries.

I am awaiting an order of three orchids to come from Malaysia. [I will say no more at the moment]

Yesterday I was thinking about the so called 'Import Permit' and so I keyed in those very words to do a search on the world wide web.

If I do not require an import permit to import lets say a Rhynchostylis retusa from Italy, why do I need a permit to import it from Malaysia.

I expect there are some of you who are much more experienced than me when it comes to inporting orchids, but why the difference? Surely the Orchid Nursery who supply the plants should produce a 'piece of paper' that gives all the information that the Country which is receiving the orchids [customer] requires.

I leave you to read the attachment and add some weight to what I hope one day will mean common sense has been applied.

From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Calanthe's spike?
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:00

I grow Cal. triplacata - it was Cal. discolor when I
bought it 25 years ago. My clone is in flower all of
the time and as you see in the attachments I use it as
a ground cover. Most people have clones that are shy
bloomers. When comercial growers visit it is one of
the plants that they take home. I often have 3 spikes
on a bulb. I use slow release Nutracote and it is in
very bright light. When everything is just right the
leaves are a silver/blue green.

From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Drilling holes.
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:10

Before we had slotted pots we had hammers. I don't
think anyone drilled holes in them. We just gently
hammered the bottom hole until we chipped the hole to
a size that we thought was big enough. Then we put a
pot shard over the hole. I would not pay extra for
the slots.

From: "Schoonjans, Peter-Dieter $IT$"
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Low cost orchids.
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:00

Indeed my local Asda in Clapham Junction stocked them, but there were only about 10 or so left. On Monday I'll go and have a look at the one near work, hopefully they have some left. This is about the lowest I have seen in any shop. Last month I managed to get a good Phalaenopsis in Belgium for about 7 Euros. I find that in general orchids are a bit on the expensive side in the UK compared the Holland (where they all seem to come from) or my homeland Belgium.

My local ASDA Supermarket has some very good orchids for sale, and on enquiring, I was told that all of the ASDA stores would be selling orchids at the same price.

Phalaenopsis - Miltonias - Dendrobiums - Vulstekearas - Odontoglossum/Oncidium crosses etc.

From: Peter Fowler
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Import permits, paperwork, etc.
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:55

From: Ed Deckert
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Drilling holes.
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:30

I have seen clay orchid pots with the slits for sale in the USA that were made in Italy. You may want to rummage around a bit more to see if they can be found after all.

From: James H
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: [OrchidTalk] Drilling holes
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 04:15

in canada we have clay pots with one big hole in the bottom, at
specialty shops we can get clay pots that are full of holes and look
like swiss cheeze. they are prohibitivly expensive but work great,=20
my mom and sister both take clay working courses all the time so i get
them to make me pots full of holes and no bottom then i glue wire
screen to the bottom, i have smashed the bottom out of regular clay
pots and attached the screen and have very good growth with these pots
and the ones they make for me,
they dry out very fast so i only use them on plants that like it dryer,=20
James

From: aeranthes
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: pots and calanthes
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 08:40

Jns - that looks like a littel piece of Heaven! All those wonderful orchids
growing outside! Just beautiful!
Rocky - thanks for the letter about Cities. You are right - very
interesting. That sounds like every society I know - there is always someone
just waiting to criticise the workers!!
Everyone - I bought clay pots with holes in them from Ray Creek about 2
years ago but I don't know if he can still obtain them. In case anyone wants
to check with him his tel./fax number is 01724798445 - Jean

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Answers.
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:35

Hi Peter,
If it's Rockwall blocks about one inch or smaller, then Ratcliffes sell them.

Hi Ron,
Roger, England is in Europe, albeit reluctantly. Don't you mean the Continent?
Ron. Continent it Ron, just hope I will get some good answers.

Hi Ed,
Thanks for the tip, but at the moment I am quite happy as I can drill as many holes as I like using the German manufactured 'Bullett' drills.

Hi again Peter,
The URL, [that almost fooled me] Web-site for the excellent Italian Orchid Nursey. In fact Peter I was only last evening having another look to see what I would be buying from them next. Their plants really are excellent.
http://www.nardottoecapello.it/default.asp
Please let me know what you think.

From: P G Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Drilling holes.
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:45

Hi Rocky,
Here in South Africa it's even worse. You hardly find any clay pots
these days. They made them years ago with one hole in the centre.
Regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

From: P G Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: How to size a file if photosizing advice is gibberish to you
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:00

I'm using IrfanView as well and I recommend it very much for everybody. It
is really simple to use and very effective, not just for sizing a picture,
also for numerous other features as well, and it costs nothing.

> Go to http://www.irfanview.com/main_download_engl.htm )
> Download it and Install it by clicking on the downloaded file.
> First, copy your jpg file and use the copy in the following procedure.
> Click on the red IrfanView icon on the desktop and select "image" and in
> that menu select "resize/resample".
> There will be an indication of the size you already have and an option to
> resize in pixels.
> Make sure "aspect ratio" is fixed and then simply enter 800 for the longest
> side of the image.
> Save the image as 12345-b (or whatever) and use that to email.
> Irfanview is a wonderful little programme with all sorts of great facilities
> and is absolutely safe.
> John Stanley
>

From: sheila bicknell
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: [OrchidTalk] Re: Rockwall blocks in the UK
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:10

Peter - Ratcliffe Orchids near Winchester sell two sizes of Rockwool CUBES
(ie for use as Orchid growing medium instead of bark etc) Hope this helps.
Regards, Sheila

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Name that plant.
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:10

Can anyone please put a name to this orchid that I acquired last year. It had no name tag attached to it.....but it is very nice, grows a good strong flower spike, the flowers are well spaced apart and overall I am pleased with it.

And once again, MY system of sizing the photo has worked. No doubt, as I have said before, we will all have our own systems, and may we stick with them.

From: P G Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Low cost orchids
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:55

Hi All,
The attached picture shows a Phalaenopsis that was bought in a supermarket
in Germany for 6.99 Euros.
If I want to buy a plant like this in South Africa it would cost between 15 -
20 Euros.
Kind regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Orchids - Price and size of photo.
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:20

It is nice to hear from another Member of our Club regarding the low cost of some orchids. This is good news, especially for the newcomer to this wonderful hobby.

I liked your photo and the 'specific' details regarding size and KB's. It looks as though we are getting there.

It now only remains for me to [possibly] write a nice friendly introduction letter to the Lady in Bristol regarding the tangled mess that has happened with Import Permits and the C.I.T.E.S. regulation.

From: Gordon Walker
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Orchids - Price and size of photo.
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:50

Roger,
I have been reading your mails to the club and would like to suggest and throw open to others for their opinion that once the letter is drafted all who would like to add their name could contact you before it is sent.
Gordon.

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Calanthe's spike?
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:15

I find this quite remarkable , as I have seen C.triplicata growing wild in
the Thailand rain forests on several occasions , and invariably it is in the
darkest part of the forest - growing on the ground as a terrestrial . I
found my notes from my last trip , and I took a light reading on the leaves
, i.e. placing the cell to receive the same light as the leaves got, and it
was 150 Lux - which is about 12 foot candles - and this was late morning on
a cloudy day in the rainy season - August , and a few degrees north of the
equator.

I sometimes put my plant on the floor in the greenhouse , to give it the
darkest position possible, and have even thought of putting it under the
bench ; but the very thin plicate leaves do so very easily damage with any
kind of mould, rust or whatever , and I think it not worth risking.

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Low cost orchids
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:45

It's a nice flower, but one lesson I was taught a good many years ago is to
consider whether I am buying a bunch of flowers, or an orchid plant.
If the phally has a mere couple of leaves and not very good ones, then even
1 euro is more than I would pay !.nd of course I cannot see from the
picture, how good the plant is.

I do buy phallys from the local garden centre, and look for at least 4
perfect leaves , preferably five or 6 - no trace of yellow, no deformation,
no physical damage , and I look for two flower spikes, with no more than a
couple of flowers actually out on both , all the rest buds. Then I know
that the plant will give me a couple of months of splendour on the original
spikes, and after that I cut the spikes to ground level, repot (usually) and
put in the greenhouse, and rub out the new spikes as they appear until it is
growing strongly enough to have produced a new leaf better than any previous
one, and another on the way , then let it flower again , by which time it
will usually produce branches on the flower stem which will flower at the
same time as the main stem flowers. If I can get two or three branches in
flower on two spikes, I have a potential best in show !

For all of this, I am quite happy to pay twelve or thirteen pounds,- which
would be say 20 Euros and think it a better bargain than the ones I can buy
for half that price in the market , with just 2 and a half leaves, and a
miserable single spike , and possibly ill-treated before I buy it , too.

Hi All,
The attached picture shows a Phalaenopsis that was bought in a supermarket
in Germany for 6.99 Euros.

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Import permits, paperwork, etc.
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:50

I did not find your attachment, but it doesn't matter. The simple reason why
you need CITES from Malaysia and not from Italy is that Italy is in the EU
and so are we. The EU is one country for the purposes of trade - no barriers
between individual states. So no permits, no paperwork, no tariffs or
duties, etc.

Malaysia is not in the EU, so all the rigmarole is legally required - I
nearly wrote necessary , except that in my opinion none of it is actually
necessary anyway - what good does it do , other than find work for some
jobsworth ?

From: P G Hieke
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Oncidumnia
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:50

Hi All,
Oncidumnia is something newish on the market. The first was registered
early last year. It is Oncidium x Tolumnia (Equitant). Hopefully they will
look like Tolumnias and grow like Oncidiums, being less difficult to grow.
I bought 4 different plants in May this year and so far they are growing
well under the winter conditions that we have now.
The 4 attached pictures are a bit smaller so that they are together less
than 50 Kb.
Kind regards
Peter from Bloubergstrand

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Letter to Bristol.
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:10

Geoff's latest E-mail just goes to show what a mess it all is. This is the basis of my argument. I see no difference whatsoever in importing shall we say an orchid from Italy and an orchid from a country outside of the E.U. when the orchid is exactly the same.

This morning I was strolling through a water meadow/footpath/cycle path between the city of Salisbury and its neighbouring district of Harnham. There were very nice colourful signs in the meadow, just over the fence showing and telling the types of plants, insects etc. The sign, and other signs were the 'compliments' of D.E.F.R.A. Which means:

I believe this is where I am supposed to write for an Import Permit, and I am damned sure that many of the people in this establishment must also be very confused and amazed.

I will quite soon do a little investigation to find out exactly where I would E-mail my enquiry.

From: Rudolf Günnel
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Odontoglossum Grande. Two photos.
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:35

I have searched slightly in my orchid books after orchid diseases and
have found in the book with the German title ›Orchideen-pflegen,
vermehren, züchten“ (orchids „ caring on, propagating, breeding) of the
author Walter Richter , you had asked for him perhaps a year ago, a
description of a disease called ›Brennfleckenkrankheit“ burn spots
disease.
Its symptoms are very likely suitable to those of your Rossioglossum
grande.
He wrote not exactly literally:
You can detect the burn spots disease at circular or not regular shaped
but sharp edged brown spots. The spots develop themselves from a
millimetre size until 2 cm in diameter or even more. Possibly withering
and necrotizing of leaves and bulbs are caused by the disease. The germs
are fungus of different genera. Their propagation is been supported by
high temperature and humidity, frequently water spraying, overdone
feeding and lack of light. You can fight the disease cutting all ill
parts from the plant, spraying fungicides and changing the environment
conditions.
Hope that helps you and your Rossioglossum grande.

From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Re: Calanthe's spike?
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:25

About 25 years ago I saw Warren Kelly (from Orchid World) growing more then 100 Cal.triplicata on the ground between two benches. Never more then one plant was in bloom when I visited the range. I thought they were there bacause of a lack for a proper bench. My plants are growing in bright filtered light and bloom all of the time. I'm certainly glad that I never was told how to grow them.

Last July I gave Carter and Holmes (Carolina Growers) two of my awarded Milt. moreliana. They gave me 4 unbloomed seedlings. The cross is Milt Belvedere x Milt. Star of Nuaou. Go to my site and see the first bloom. The 4 little plants will give me 7 flowers. Rember if you want maximum flower size the bulbs should be brite yellow from the direct sun.

From: kinder
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Name that plant.
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 02:30

I wonder if it has Golden Trident in it.
It looks that Odont Golden Trident Tiger or saomething like it.

Can anyone please put a name to this orchid that I acquired last year. It
had no name tag attached to it.....but it is very nice, grows a good strong
flower spike, the flowers are well spaced apart and overall I am pleased
with it.

From: aeranthes
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: thank you
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 07:35

Thank you for letting us know about the ASDA orchids (can't remember exactly who it was). I bought a purple flowered Dendrobium yesterday and am pleased with it. I wouldn't have gone there if you hadn't been kind enough to pass the word around. Jean

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Oncidumnia
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:30

I should like to see a picture of one of the plants Peter - the flowers
certainly look like "ordinary" equitants ( "ordinary" not being intended as
any slur - I think they are delightful flowers - just very difficult plants
to flower ! ) . These have not come to my attention before - the names
suggest that they are all the work of one breeder , and if he/she does not
sell to Uk we shall not see them , of course. But usually, our dealers do
find things and we see them, but not in any systematic way .

From: Geoffrey Hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Letter to Bristol.
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:40

The address you want is in Bristol - the office building is something like
TollHouse - I forget exactly ; but if you look in your phone book - maybe on
the net too - you will find a general enquiries number ; tell them you want
the department that issues licenses for wildlife imports , and then when you
get through to that department tell them it is a plant permit ( orchids)
which you want.

And remember that you need the permit when you import , not afterwards, and
that what you get is a form to APPLY for a permit, and with your application
you must send the EXPORT permit from Malaysia or wherever..

From: Andy Mckeown
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Letter to Bristol.
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:35

Wildlife Licensing and Registration Service
Zone 1/17, Temple Quay House
2 The square
Temple Quay
Bristol BS1 6EB

However now if you import from outside the EU you must be a "registered importer" - see http://www.defra.gov.uk/planth/import/control.htm

Defra, Plant Health
Room 334, Foss House
Kings Pool
1-2 Peasholme Green
YORK
YO1 7PX
Tel: 01904 455174
Email: planthealth.info@defra.gsi.gov.uk

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: A few items.
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:25

Christien, Thanks for the information....I will check it out. Nice to think that a reply came from New Zealand.

JNS Tropic. Come on now good friend, what is your Christian name, and your web site please so that we can see the plants that came from Carter & Holmes. I have some plants from them still doing well.....that was fourteen years ago.

From: aeranthes
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: thank you again
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:35

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Importing Orchids, the continuing saga.
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:45

My aim is to just plod along quite slowly and correctly to try to see through the mist that surrounds the importation of orchids by hobbyists/amateur orchid growers in the United Kingdom.

If Members from other Countries would like to comment, then your added interest may throw up some very interesting information.

From: jns tropic
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] A few items.
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:35

> JNS Tropic. Come on now good friend, what is your
> Christian name, and your web site please so that we
> can see the plants that came from Carter & Holmes.
> I have some plants from them still doing
> well.....that was fourteen years ago.
>
> Regards, Rocky.

My address is:
http://groups.msn.com/tropicalgardenpics/_whatsnew.msnw
If you forget it just Google : tropical garden pics

The second Milt. has started to open and it has some
spots on the sepals and petals, I think that the solid
color is better. When they are all in bloom I will
post them to my site. If you join the site you will
get an email once a week advising you about the new
pictures.

As for my name, I use jns in public forums. Since I
show some coveted plant material I don't want my name
on those sites. It would be too easy for someone to
find my home in a web search. Send me a private email
and I will tell you everything. Ron Newstead has been
in my garden, I think that he knows that I'm not
paranoid. The enclosed attachment is a pic of jns

From: Jon Loose
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Bifrenaria Harrisoniae
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:05

In answer to your question: mine started new growth about 4-6 weeks ago.
I've had it about a year from our society member's auction and haven't seen
any flower yet - it is still just an offset. Conditions are quite warm with
the weather and my south facing lean-to glasshouse.

Further to my enquiry about my Bifrenaria Harrisoniae, it is still just sat
there looking at me, however, this evening I have looked at several of my
'Orchid Books' and none of them came up with any startling information.
This is of course what one would expect from most modern books.

One book, the good old 'Richter' book, suggested that although this orchid
came from Brazil, that it be treated as Cool to Intermediate, with a good
rest after the new growths had made up the bulb.

O.K., so far so good, but, I would have expected my plant to have shown new
growths weeks ago.

So, my question is to all of our Club Members, world wide, when does your
Biferaria Harrisoniae start showing new growths.

My has always lived in the Warm House, but tomorrow I will move it to the
Cool House............although at this time of the year, and with this very
hot weather that we are having there is hardly any difference, but we will
see if anything happens.

From: Jon Loose
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Importing Orchids, the continuing saga.
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:30

It seems to me that there could be a place for someone/a company as an
import coordinator who could take their cut from the savings to be gained by
importing in greater bulk than the individual. Is this naïve? If they
concentrated on those suppliers who have a web site it could even be
possible to easily get more people to add to a planned order.

From: Mark Macklam
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Low cost orchids in Edmonton, Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:35

This a.m. I was into our Rona Hardware store, much like D.I.Y. in the
U.K., and as always checked for any plants on sale. At this time of
year of course many perennials, shrubs and trees can be had at a deep
discount, but I was surprised to find a large quantity of Phals on
sale, too. What did surprise me though was, currency converted, that
they were offered at pretty much the same price as the plant offered at
ASDA! Found that interesting. And have noticed that before with pricing
of plants that I have checked out in visits to the U.S. and France
relative to home.
Geoffs criteria for buying a Phally [July 19] was put to good use and
I selected some excellent plants.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Import Permits.
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:55

In response to my initial E-mail, to make sure that I was on to the correct department, I have just received this nice letter, which is here for all to see. Looking at the last paragraph, do I hopefully see a chink in the armour????

Dear Mr Grier,
Import and export permits are not required for movements within the EU. However imports and exports into the EU do require permits. You will need a CITES export permit from Malaysia first and then once this has been issued you can apply to us for an import permit. Application forms are on our website below.

All orchids are listed on CITES and although many are now artificially propagated they still require permits, as obviously not everyone is trained in recognizing artificially propagated plants and so the system would be open for abuse if these were exempt.

Regards
Simon James
Global Wildlife Division
Department for the Environment,
Food & Rural Affairs
Eagle Wing - Zone 1/17/J
Temple Quay House
2 The Square
Temple Quay
Bristol
BS1 6EB
Direct Line: (0117) 3728502
Fax: (0117) 372 8206
e-mail -
website: www.ukcites.gov.uk

I will now reply to Simon James hoping that we can all work together to come to a common sense ending.

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